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LittleBigPlanet

1,122 posts

141 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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I switched off a little, it was a bit boring. I didn't really 'like' the lead though, his voice I found irritating.

Going to give it the benefit of doubt and tune in next week though.

wolfracesonic

7,005 posts

127 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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hidetheelephants said:
The mumbling/unclear sotto voce was a bit of a distraction; it seems to be a thing now. I realise having everyone projecting away like Brian Blessed turned up to 11 would be inappropriate but there's a happy medium to be struck.
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ajprice

27,494 posts

196 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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LittleBigPlanet said:
I switched off a little, it was a bit boring. I didn't really 'like' the lead though, his voice I found irritating.

Going to give it the benefit of doubt and tune in next week though.
His voice reminded me of someone else, but I can't place it. It may have been John Hurt as said already, or I might have seen him in something else and I'm thinking of that. Looking at his IMDB though, I can't see anything there I would have watched.

Edit: after a search for video of John Hurt talking, I think that's it. Very similar to the lead's voice https://youtu.be/5fxgiQXzNIo

Edited by ajprice on Monday 20th February 07:51

RegMolehusband

3,961 posts

257 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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I too found the inspector's voice very irritating and difficult to hear at times. He's a young man but he sounds like a 70 year old who's been smoking all his life. Very odd.

coppice

8,614 posts

144 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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Subtitles are your friend.

neil_w

79 posts

198 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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ajprice said:
His voice reminded me of someone else, but I can't place it. It may have been John Hurt as said already, or I might have seen him in something else and I'm thinking of that. Looking at his IMDB though, I can't see anything there I would have watched.

Edit: after a search for video of John Hurt talking, I think that's it. Very similar to the lead's voice https://youtu.be/5fxgiQXzNIo

Edited by ajprice on Monday 20th February 07:51
I was struggling to think of who his voice reminded me of, I finally got it though, JD from last years apprentice.

Doofus

25,825 posts

173 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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hidetheelephants said:
The mumbling/unclear sotto voce was a bit of a distraction; it seems to be a thing now. I realise having everyone projecting away like Brian Blessed turned up to 11 would be inappropriate but there's a happy medium to be struck.
Yes, there is. It's called "speaking normally".

Brave Fart

5,732 posts

111 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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Agree about the mumbling audio, and the gloomy lighting. It's an annoying trend in recent TV dramas. One other thing that bugged the hell out of me: constant close ups of characters smoking - everybody was lighting up at every moment, yuck. Yes I know it was 1941 and they want it to look authentic, but come on - is it sponsored by B.A.T. or something? Adds almost nothing to the plot and is just horrible.
Probably give it one more chance next week but I was very disappointed by it.

croyde

22,933 posts

230 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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Was really looking forward to this but it was so slow, gloomy and unintelligible that halfway through my new girlfriend said 'lets go to bed'

So we did, to sleep.

It was that bad biggrin

Borroxs

20,911 posts

247 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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Gloomy lighting? That's what life was like in 1941. Gloomy.



Eric Mc

122,038 posts

265 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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Doofus said:
hidetheelephants said:
The mumbling/unclear sotto voce was a bit of a distraction; it seems to be a thing now. I realise having everyone projecting away like Brian Blessed turned up to 11 would be inappropriate but there's a happy medium to be struck.
Yes, there is. It's called "speaking normally".
It's a drama. Actors should speak properly when acting.

It's becoming a problem and obviously something they are all being taught in drama school.

When acting for TV and film, you don't have to project as if you are on stage in a theatre - but you do have to speak loudly and clearly enough to get what you are saying heard.

Another problem with modern productions is that the sound recording seems to pick up and emphasise background noise.

Maybe if they took more care of that then the fact that the actors are not speaking clearly would be less of an issue.

RichB

51,591 posts

284 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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Eric Mc said:
It's a drama. Actors should speak properly when acting.

It's becoming a problem and obviously something they are all being taught in drama school.

When acting for TV and film, you don't have to project as if you are on stage in a theatre - but you do have to speak loudly and clearly enough to get what you are saying heard.

Another problem with modern productions is that the sound recording seems to pick up and emphasise background noise.

Maybe if they took more care of that then the fact that the actors are not speaking clearly would be less of an issue.
Indeed Eric, i have a very decent surround sound system with a top of the range Denon and and proper Kef speakers but if I turn it up louder everything increases in volume. I found the scene in the restaurant with the American lady most difficult. I could rewind the passage 2 or 3 times to get it but that ruins the flow of the film. There were a few sentences spoken by Sam Riley that I never could work out.

Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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I enjoyed it and found the audio absolutely fine.

Unsurprising in a PH thread to find so many people moaning. I suspect soem peopel just watch things to find fault.

craigjm

17,956 posts

200 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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Zod said:
I enjoyed it and found the audio absolutely fine.

Unsurprising in a PH thread to find so many people moaning. I suspect soem peopel just watch things to find fault.
I think its funny when people notice "its the wrong spitfire for the era" etc..... its not real!

Eric Mc

122,038 posts

265 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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It's alternative reality. In that alternative reality, Supermarine developed the Mk IX much earlier than they actually really did.

Although why they would do so is beyond me as the Mk IX was developed as a stop-gap because of production difficulties with the Mk VIII - which was developed because the Germans had just introduced the Fw190 - which was superior to the Mk II and V Spitfires in front line service in 1941.

In reality, Supermarine would possibly have ceased Spitfire production with the Mk V and then would probably have become sub contractors building Focke Wulf 190s under licence.

Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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Roll up roll up. Read all about it.

Shock on the internet. When a group of men who are older than they used to be. Find it more difficult to separate speech from background noise, than they used to. They blame the actors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbGNXSyXdPU

croyde

22,933 posts

230 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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Munter said:
Roll up roll up. Read all about it.

Shock on the internet. When a group of men who are older than they used to be. Find it more difficult to separate speech from background noise, than they used to. They blame the actors.
hehe

Eric Mc

122,038 posts

265 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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Funny how us "older men" don't have this problem with older programmes and films.That would indicate that modern acting techniques and sound recording is at fault, not our ears.

It's rather strange to think that a TV programme made in 1969 has clearer dialogue than one made a few months ago.
I watched an episode of The Avengers from 1969 the other day and every syllable was clear and distinct (story was rubbish mind).

troc

3,763 posts

175 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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Yeah, don't get the audio problems you all seem to be having. I watched it through our smaller 40" tv and onboard sound (rather than bothering to go and use the 55" one with Denon surround amp and Monitor Audio speakers) and I though the sound was fine, yes it was mumbly and sotto voce but I assumed that was deliberate. I never had an issue understanding what anyone was saying.

peter tdci

1,770 posts

150 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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ajprice said:
Vocal Minority said:
williamp said:
so many mistakes? a jaguar?? (would still be an SS)
I was wondering when PH would pick up on this
Is it a BBC production thing or a Len Deighton book thing though?
The scene is in the book and the boys just look at the car, but say nothing. When they are told a car is coming though, they did ask if it was going to be a 'Flying Standard'.