OJ - Made in America

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moanthebairns

17,939 posts

198 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Just finished this after watching the series of Netflix featuring David Schwimmer and John Travolta. I was constantly googling stuff during it as I didnt, couldnt believe that certain items were true. Confirmed again in this BBC take on it.

I thought the first episode was a bit slow, but then it gathered pace. The last one was good showing the decline in his life after it and how the court got revenge in the robbery. I felt a tad sorry for him at that point, it didnt sit right with myself but then I remembered just what he had done.

A very, very likeable character and I never realised just how huge he was in America.

Some of the tactics deployed by the defence team were nothing short of brilliant. I'll be honest there is no way I would have been swayed by them, but after 8 months on a jury (which is frankly ridiculous) I can see why people just wanted it over, even if it was only because they thought the evidence had been tampered with and he hadn't been given a fair trial.

I'm not sure if he can face prosecution for this again, but for the families sake it would be nice if he told the truth, even if only on his death bed.

trickywoo

11,790 posts

230 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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moanthebairns said:
I'm not sure if he can face prosecution for this again, but for the families sake it would be nice if he told the truth
He was convicted of the murders in a civil court and wrote the book If I Did It. Which is as close as I think you'll get.

moanthebairns

17,939 posts

198 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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trickywoo said:
moanthebairns said:
I'm not sure if he can face prosecution for this again, but for the families sake it would be nice if he told the truth
He was convicted of the murders in a civil court and wrote the book If I Did It. Which is as close as I think you'll get.
The book idea was shocking, distasteful and showing utter contempt for his victims families. Basically, give me cash now, I've run out. I suspect that has been his downfall. Trying to continue his life in the lime light, whilst living a lavish lifestyle. Most people would have fked off somewhere, never to be seen again and lived in peace knowing they got away with it.

All said, I am tempted to buy the book...

trickywoo

11,790 posts

230 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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moanthebairns said:
All said, I am tempted to buy the book...
I'm pretty sure the victims families have the rights to it so you could buy it in clear conscience.

moanthebairns

17,939 posts

198 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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trickywoo said:
moanthebairns said:
All said, I am tempted to buy the book...
I'm pretty sure the victims families have the rights to it so you could buy it in clear conscience.
Strange one that is, I still cant help but like the guy but when I think what he's done....

I am just trying to find out if its all based on the BBC doc or if its all in his words. I understand the final chapter is the confession.

trickywoo

11,790 posts

230 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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moanthebairns said:
Strange one that is, I still cant help but like the guy but when I think what he's done....

I am just trying to find out if its all based on the BBC doc or if its all in his words. I understand the final chapter is the confession.
In theory its ghost written and he just put his name to it for some cash but you can't but help think its based on fact.

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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moanthebairns said:
Strange one that is, I still cant help but like the guy but when I think what he's done....

He seems a very charming man, disarmingly so.

I found it compelling viewing. As much about the social situation in the USA as anything.

I also never knew just how famous he was.

But yeah, the defence successfully changed the trail from 'The people v OJ' to 'the black community v LAPD' - that's how they won it

Edited by Vocal Minority on Wednesday 22 March 14:31

BrotherMouzone

3,169 posts

174 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Vocal Minority said:
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I found it compelling viewing. As much about the social situation in the USA as anything.

.............

But yeah, the defence successfully changed the trail from 'The people v OJ' to 'the black community v LAPD' - that's how they won it
+1, +1 and +1

I was barely a teenager at the time but remember watching the Rodney King beating, the Korean lady shooting and of course the Bronco car chase on the news.

The defence team was brilliant, particularly the lead Johnnie Cochran and the DNA guy (the young-ish white dude). Adding to the social situation at the time, the mishandling of evidence and Mark Fuhrman, the prosecution team never had a chance.

OJ trying on the gloves - as someone in the documentary mentioned - he was in full Naked Gun mode, playing it up in front of the camera and the jury. A very sinister and manipulative man.

MYOB

4,787 posts

138 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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trickywoo said:
In theory its ghost written and he just put his name to it for some cash but you can't but help think its based on fact.
Yep. the book was purpoterdly written by another author but the publishers agreed with OJ to give him cash if he said he wrote it. OJ was strapped for cash and stupidly agreed.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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after watching no one can come away and think he was innocent. the only question not answered was did his son do it and he helped cover it. Jason was known to be bad tempered and would explain lack of blood on him.

Ascayman

12,750 posts

216 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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BrotherMouzone said:
The defence team was brilliant,
I wish people would stop saying this, they were a disgrace to their profession and to their race. How they could sleep at night I have no idea.

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Is a lawyer not always obliged to defend their client to the best of their ability?

To be honest it would be one of my hang ups about being a criminal lawyer

moanthebairns

17,939 posts

198 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Vocal Minority said:
Is a lawyer not always obliged to defend their client to the best of their ability?

To be honest it would be one of my hang ups about being a criminal lawyer
Agreed, its their job to represent you the best they can and up to the jury to convict you.

PurpleAki

1,601 posts

87 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Ascayman said:
I wish people would stop saying this, they were a disgrace to their profession and to their race. How they could sleep at night I have no idea.
Even some of the jurors got tired of their pathetic ties.

Marty Funkhouser

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5,426 posts

181 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Ascayman said:
I wish people would stop saying this, they were a disgrace to their profession and to their race. How they could sleep at night I have no idea.
I think it was just as much to do with the racism of the jury.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Ascayman said:
BrotherMouzone said:
The defence team was brilliant,
I wish people would stop saying this, they were a disgrace to their profession and to their race. How they could sleep at night I have no idea.
I think it's more a case of they managed to turn what was a clear cut and shut case into a not guilty result.

The lawyers job is to get the best result for the client - and that means even if they knew 100% he was a pedophilloc monster child killer. The law states you are entities to legal council. I'm not sure what happens is every lawyer refuses to represent you ?

dom9

8,078 posts

209 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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Just found this thread and see that it has left iPlayer frown

Remember watching the bbc coverage of the trials with my Dad and would have been interested in this.

Assume it won't reappear and will no go to Netflix/Amazon or somewhere?

hondafanatic

4,969 posts

201 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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dom9 said:
Just found this thread and see that it has left iPlayer frown

Remember watching the bbc coverage of the trials with my Dad and would have been interested in this.

Assume it won't reappear and will no go to Netflix/Amazon or somewhere?
It's been on Netflix for sometime...

K50 DEL

9,237 posts

228 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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Welshbeef said:
I'm not sure what happens is every lawyer refuses to represent you ?
The court will assign your case to a lawyer who doesn't have the right to refuse to take it...... how hard he works on it is a different matter though!

MYOB

4,787 posts

138 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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hondafanatic said:
dom9 said:
Just found this thread and see that it has left iPlayer frown

Remember watching the bbc coverage of the trials with my Dad and would have been interested in this.

Assume it won't reappear and will no go to Netflix/Amazon or somewhere?
It's been on Netflix for sometime...
No, The people v oj Simpson is on Netflix. The programme on iplayer is something different.