Edd China has left Wheeler Dealers

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Zad

12,703 posts

237 months

Tuesday 9th May 2017
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Just in case people have missed it, Edd has done an update video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1TF7bxrXDA

Kinda strange all round really. His tools and personal belongings are locked up and he can't get at them? Obviously nothing in the pipeline, but one or two interesting suggestions in there. Anyway, watch it, you'll see.

I really hope he is lurking on here, lots of support and respect for the fella. Especially from fellow shaggy haired prematurely greying chaps. Well, this one anyway.

TEKNOPUG

18,969 posts

206 months

Tuesday 9th May 2017
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Edd said:
I've made a terrible mistake, someone please offer me some work!!
hehe

Purso

869 posts

103 months

Tuesday 9th May 2017
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Interesting that we have never seen you and Ed china in the same room!

Zad said:
Just in case people have missed it, Edd has done an update video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1TF7bxrXDA

Kinda strange all round really. His tools and personal belongings are locked up and he can't get at them? Obviously nothing in the pipeline, but one or two interesting suggestions in there. Anyway, watch it, you'll see.

I really hope he is lurking on here, lots of support and respect for the fella. Especially from fellow shaggy haired prematurely greying chaps. Well, this one anyway.

SydneyBridge

8,620 posts

159 months

Tuesday 9th May 2017
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Wonder what he is allowed or not allowed to do next...

For the love of deals, with Philip Glenister.?

I think he should create more unique projects like the sofa and bed cars etc..


Flip Martian

19,703 posts

191 months

Tuesday 9th May 2017
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Zad said:
Just in case people have missed it, Edd has done an update video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1TF7bxrXDA

Kinda strange all round really. His tools and personal belongings are locked up and he can't get at them? Obviously nothing in the pipeline, but one or two interesting suggestions in there. Anyway, watch it, you'll see.

I really hope he is lurking on here, lots of support and respect for the fella. Especially from fellow shaggy haired prematurely greying chaps. Well, this one anyway.
He doesn't say he can't get his belongings - just that he'd need permission to go in, seeing as he doesn't work there now. Although presumably he had arranged the date and time in advance and had the permission, so I guess it was just an excuse to sit in the car and do some Qs!

Zad

12,703 posts

237 months

Tuesday 9th May 2017
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Purso said:
Interesting that we have never seen you and Ed china in the same room!
This is true! But I'm a bit of a dwarf at 6ft in comparison (but a skinny hairy giant compared to Mr Brewer).

Mark Evans seems to get mentioned quite a bit, that might make an interesting series if it were the right subject. Personally, I'd like to see them do an update of the old Haynes "Build your own sports car for £200" book. But I can see that would have a limited audience. In this 21st century Internet world, there is a lot of mileage on producing YouTube videos. Essentially doing what he was doing already, only without Mr Owdahtyerand. Not so much for the video advertising income, but from the merchandise, sponsorship and Patreon subscriptions. Someone like Edd with a world wide brand could to seriously well out of it.

TEKNOPUG

18,969 posts

206 months

Tuesday 9th May 2017
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Zad said:
This is true! But I'm a bit of a dwarf at 6ft in comparison (but a skinny hairy giant compared to Mr Brewer).

Mark Evans seems to get mentioned quite a bit, that might make an interesting series if it were the right subject. Personally, I'd like to see them do an update of the old Haynes "Build your own sports car for £200" book. But I can see that would have a limited audience. In this 21st century Internet world, there is a lot of mileage on producing YouTube videos. Essentially doing what he was doing already, only without Mr Owdahtyerand. Not so much for the video advertising income, but from the merchandise, sponsorship and Patreon subscriptions. Someone like Edd with a world wide brand could to seriously well out of it.
I guess the issue with all these ideas is that he has to sell the concept to a production company. He if can't find anyone interested in commissioning a show, then he's stuffed. As much as we'd like to see him do more in depth and interesting things on Youtube for example, he's not going to make any money doing it by himself.

DonkeyApple

55,360 posts

170 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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Video has all the hallmarks of the opening salvo of a video diary of a decent into obscurity and unkempt rantings in a Whetherspoons.

Riley Blue

20,973 posts

227 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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DonkeyApple said:
Video has all the hallmarks of the opening salvo of a video diary of a decent into obscurity and unkempt rantings in a Whetherspoons.
It did seem like the comments of a somewhat desperate and embittered man; a great shame as I've long regarded Edd as the real talent in Wheeler Dealers.

SHutchinson

2,040 posts

185 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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Riley Blue said:
DonkeyApple said:
Video has all the hallmarks of the opening salvo of a video diary of a decent into obscurity and unkempt rantings in a Whetherspoons.
It did seem like the comments of a somewhat desperate and embittered man; a great shame as I've long regarded Edd as the real talent in Wheeler Dealers.
Yup, starts off in California, series ends dramatically in Carlisle Wetherspoons!

DonkeyApple

55,360 posts

170 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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Riley Blue said:
It did seem like the comments of a somewhat desperate and embittered man; a great shame as I've long regarded Edd as the real talent in Wheeler Dealers.
I agree. I think for people who like cars he was the essential element of the show but I suspect, as has been mentioned in this thread, that he is the least commercially essential element to the actual show. Which is a huge shame not just for people like us but frankly society as a whole on a wider scale of how modern TV is made and the fkwitted, Wonga'd to the eyeball, orange, semi literate, spaz-gibbons it is designed to cater and pander to.

BrabusMog

20,178 posts

187 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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DonkeyApple said:
Riley Blue said:
It did seem like the comments of a somewhat desperate and embittered man; a great shame as I've long regarded Edd as the real talent in Wheeler Dealers.
I agree. I think for people who like cars he was the essential element of the show but I suspect, as has been mentioned in this thread, that he is the least commercially essential element to the actual show. Which is a huge shame not just for people like us but frankly society as a whole on a wider scale of how modern TV is made and the fkwitted, Wonga'd to the eyeball, orange, semi literate, spaz-gibbons it is designed to cater and pander to.
laugh I liked the Mike Brewer bits, does that make me a spaz-gibbon laugh

ClockworkCupcake

74,590 posts

273 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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BrabusMog said:
laugh I liked the Mike Brewer bits, does that make me a spaz-gibbon laugh
I think you're more a wobble-monkey, which is less bad. smile

BrabusMog

20,178 posts

187 months

Wednesday 10th May 2017
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ClockworkCupcake said:
BrabusMog said:
laugh I liked the Mike Brewer bits, does that make me a spaz-gibbon laugh
I think you're more a wobble-monkey, which is less bad. smile
I can live with that.

sandman77

2,421 posts

139 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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DonkeyApple said:
fkwitted, Wonga'd to the eyeball, orange, semi literate, spaz-gibbons
That's Mike Brewer your talking about isn't it?

untakenname

4,970 posts

193 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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Will be interesting to see how the ratings compare now he's left, the fixing of the cars part was the only reason I watched.

CAPP0

19,595 posts

204 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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ClockworkCupcake said:
How about you guys taking your spat someplace else?
Sadly, this should be the opening line for any and every new thread, in every sub-board, on every topic.

Zad

12,703 posts

237 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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TEKNOPUG said:
I guess the issue with all these ideas is that he has to sell the concept to a production company. He if can't find anyone interested in commissioning a show, then he's stuffed. As much as we'd like to see him do more in depth and interesting things on Youtube for example, he's not going to make any money doing it by himself.
I think you under-estimate how much money YouTube videos make! There are a fair few YT millionaires in the UK already, many of whom don't have any real production or photography experience. I'm pretty sure that Edd could do it solo if he wanted, with nothing more than a garage with a lift, some decent lighting and a DSLR. Add an experienced camera operator and/or an editor, and the whole process would be more streamlined and glossy, but it is by no means essential. Editing into 15 minutes programmes, put out 2 or 3 times a week, every week, and it is amazing how quickly the subscriber base builds up. It doesn't have to be super in-depth nerdy stuff either. Add in occasional guests, live streams and events for Patreon support etc, it really isn't rocket science these days.

On top of YT revenue, with merchandising, direct advertising support from wherever (Ebay, GSF, Machine Mart, wherever) and the whole shooting match is massively more efficient and profitable than making programmes for broadcast TV. Potential advertisers can see for themselves how many pairs of eyeballs watch your videos.


blueST

4,394 posts

217 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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Zad said:
I think you under-estimate how much money YouTube videos make! There are a fair few YT millionaires in the UK already, many of whom don't have any real production or photography experience. I'm pretty sure that Edd could do it solo if he wanted, with nothing more than a garage with a lift, some decent lighting and a DSLR. Add an experienced camera operator and/or an editor, and the whole process would be more streamlined and glossy, but it is by no means essential. Editing into 15 minutes programmes, put out 2 or 3 times a week, every week, and it is amazing how quickly the subscriber base builds up. It doesn't have to be super in-depth nerdy stuff either. Add in occasional guests, live streams and events for Patreon support etc, it really isn't rocket science these days.

On top of YT revenue, with merchandising, direct advertising support from wherever (Ebay, GSF, Machine Mart, wherever) and the whole shooting match is massively more efficient and profitable than making programmes for broadcast TV. Potential advertisers can see for themselves how many pairs of eyeballs watch your videos.
I think he could do well on YouTube, especially as he is recognisable in the US. Both Eric The Car Guy and Humble Mechanic earn their sole living from YT now, and their skills are nowhere near Edd's. If he could come up with content that is a cocktail of Mighty Car Mods and Eric The Car Guy he'd be onto a winner I think.

Yipper

5,964 posts

91 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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DonkeyApple said:
Video has all the hallmarks of the opening salvo of a video diary of a decent into obscurity and unkempt rantings in a Whetherspoons.
Yes, he looks haggard and baggy eyes and all the signs of stress and lack of sleep (flying to California is not hard). To leave the world's biggest motoring show at the peak of its success, as he did, is insane. He will never again get a TV gig that big, even smaller TV producers will be reluctant to work with a prima donna, and he is neither young nor goodlooking nor American nor charismatic enough to become a major YouTube or Insta star. The outlook is grim.