Edd China has left Wheeler Dealers

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red_slr

17,234 posts

189 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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Yipper said:
DonkeyApple said:
Video has all the hallmarks of the opening salvo of a video diary of a decent into obscurity and unkempt rantings in a Whetherspoons.
Yes, he looks haggard and baggy eyes and all the signs of stress and lack of sleep (flying to California is not hard). To leave the world's biggest motoring show at the peak of its success, as he did, is insane. He will never again get a TV gig that big, even smaller TV producers will be reluctant to work with a prima donna, and he is neither young nor goodlooking nor American nor charismatic enough to become a major YouTube or Insta star. The outlook is grim.
Got to be worth a few quid though so doubt its an issue for him so long as he does not invest his own money in a new show unless its uber low budget.... C is for China?

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anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 13th May 2017
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Employing Ant Anstead on WD will end the same way as Chris Evans on Top Gear.

Evangelion

7,729 posts

178 months

Saturday 13th May 2017
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Being replaced by Chris Harris?

trickywoo

11,792 posts

230 months

Saturday 13th May 2017
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Hopefully he's made his money along the way and doesn't still need to pay the mortgage.

I could see him on TG as part of a more detailed look into the modifying they sometimes do but that probably falls into the dumbing down reason he left WD.

robm3

4,927 posts

227 months

Saturday 13th May 2017
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He should join the new Top Gear as a 'technical' expert or the like. Go visit car factories, strip down new engines etc in five minute segments that cater to the geekier motoring types.

TEKNOPUG

18,951 posts

205 months

Saturday 13th May 2017
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Zad said:
TEKNOPUG said:
I guess the issue with all these ideas is that he has to sell the concept to a production company. He if can't find anyone interested in commissioning a show, then he's stuffed. As much as we'd like to see him do more in depth and interesting things on Youtube for example, he's not going to make any money doing it by himself.
I think you under-estimate how much money YouTube videos make! There are a fair few YT millionaires in the UK already, many of whom don't have any real production or photography experience. I'm pretty sure that Edd could do it solo if he wanted, with nothing more than a garage with a lift, some decent lighting and a DSLR. Add an experienced camera operator and/or an editor, and the whole process would be more streamlined and glossy, but it is by no means essential. Editing into 15 minutes programmes, put out 2 or 3 times a week, every week, and it is amazing how quickly the subscriber base builds up. It doesn't have to be super in-depth nerdy stuff either. Add in occasional guests, live streams and events for Patreon support etc, it really isn't rocket science these days.

On top of YT revenue, with merchandising, direct advertising support from wherever (Ebay, GSF, Machine Mart, wherever) and the whole shooting match is massively more efficient and profitable than making programmes for broadcast TV. Potential advertisers can see for themselves how many pairs of eyeballs watch your videos.
And I think that you massively under-estimate what exactly is involved. So as you say, first he needs a garage, decent lighting, cameras etc. To do anything like a half professional job, he's going to need at least 1 cameraman. Then there is buying and sourcing the cars that he is working on. Plus all the parts. Editing, 2-3 shows a week? Who's doing the marketing? The production? The advertising? So this is going to be his full time job 9-5 if you are expecting him to do all this himself. And who is fronting up all the money to pay for all this, including the staff? And whole long will they have to continue to pour money in before they see any return? This is not a business proposition. What you are describing is a hobby. Which is exactly how all the YT millionaires began; as a hobby they did in their spare time, with minimal outlay, that over time (usually a long time) gained traction and they turned out to be one of the very, very, very few that have actually been a financial success and they are now able to do it for a living.

Someone has to invest the money into the idea. Preferably a production company with YT experience. Sponsors & Advertisers need to be sort, deals need to be struck before anything can start. He could do it as a side-line to his normal job/business. That is feasible. Probably be able to shoot, edit and release one decent video a month. Or maybe even one very short film a week. However, he's still going to need a 9-5 job/project/employment/salary in the meantime. Knocking out home-made YT vids every few weeks is not the answer.

ClockworkCupcake

74,560 posts

272 months

Saturday 13th May 2017
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TEKNOPUG said:
And I think that you massively under-estimate what exactly is involved. So as you say, first he needs a garage, decent lighting, cameras etc. To do anything like a half professional job, he's going to need at least 1 cameraman. Then there is buying and sourcing the cars that he is working on. Plus all the parts. Editing, 2-3 shows a week? Who's doing the marketing? The production? The advertising? So this is going to be his full time job 9-5 if you are expecting him to do all this himself. And who is fronting up all the money to pay for all this, including the staff? And whole long will they have to continue to pour money in before they see any return? This is not a business proposition. What you are describing is a hobby. Which is exactly how all the YT millionaires began; as a hobby they did in their spare time, with minimal outlay, that over time (usually a long time) gained traction and they turned out to be one of the very, very, very few that have actually been a financial success and they are now able to do it for a living.

Someone has to invest the money into the idea. Preferably a production company with YT experience. Sponsors & Advertisers need to be sort, deals need to be struck before anything can start. He could do it as a side-line to his normal job/business. That is feasible. Probably be able to shoot, edit and release one decent video a month. Or maybe even one very short film a week. However, he's still going to need a 9-5 job/project/employment/salary in the meantime. Knocking out home-made YT vids every few weeks is not the answer.
Edd already owns a garage though - it was his day job beforehand and he continues to do it. But, yes, you make some fair points.

TEKNOPUG

18,951 posts

205 months

Saturday 13th May 2017
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ClockworkCupcake said:
TEKNOPUG said:
And I think that you massively under-estimate what exactly is involved. So as you say, first he needs a garage, decent lighting, cameras etc. To do anything like a half professional job, he's going to need at least 1 cameraman. Then there is buying and sourcing the cars that he is working on. Plus all the parts. Editing, 2-3 shows a week? Who's doing the marketing? The production? The advertising? So this is going to be his full time job 9-5 if you are expecting him to do all this himself. And who is fronting up all the money to pay for all this, including the staff? And whole long will they have to continue to pour money in before they see any return? This is not a business proposition. What you are describing is a hobby. Which is exactly how all the YT millionaires began; as a hobby they did in their spare time, with minimal outlay, that over time (usually a long time) gained traction and they turned out to be one of the very, very, very few that have actually been a financial success and they are now able to do it for a living.

Someone has to invest the money into the idea. Preferably a production company with YT experience. Sponsors & Advertisers need to be sort, deals need to be struck before anything can start. He could do it as a side-line to his normal job/business. That is feasible. Probably be able to shoot, edit and release one decent video a month. Or maybe even one very short film a week. However, he's still going to need a 9-5 job/project/employment/salary in the meantime. Knocking out home-made YT vids every few weeks is not the answer.
Edd already owns a garage though - it was his day job beforehand and he continues to do it. But, yes, you make some fair points.
The garage that went bankrupt?

ClockworkCupcake

74,560 posts

272 months

Saturday 13th May 2017
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TEKNOPUG said:
The garage that went bankrupt?
Oh. Sorry, I didn't know that. As you were.

r11co

6,244 posts

230 months

Sunday 14th May 2017
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TEKNOPUG said:
The garage that went bankrupt?
One of the businesses he was a director of folded (a plc) and at the time it was working out of two premises, so there's a fair chance he still has his original garage.

Eddie Strohacker

3,879 posts

86 months

Sunday 14th May 2017
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robm3 said:
He should join the new Top Gear as a 'technical' expert or the like. Go visit car factories, strip down new engines etc in five minute segments that cater to the geekier motoring types.
You've never watched Top Gear have you?

r11co

6,244 posts

230 months

Sunday 14th May 2017
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Eddie Strohacker said:
robm3 said:
He should join the new Top Gear as a 'technical' expert or the like. Go visit car factories, strip down new engines etc in five minute segments that cater to the geekier motoring types.
You've never watched Top Gear have you?
That's what I was thinking too. How to destroy Top Gear in one fell swoop.

ClockworkCupcake

74,560 posts

272 months

Sunday 14th May 2017
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Whenever people say that Top Gear should have more geek / car nerd content, I point them in the direction of Fifth Gear. smile


LanceRS

2,172 posts

137 months

Sunday 14th May 2017
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TEKNOPUG

18,951 posts

205 months

Sunday 14th May 2017
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LanceRS said:
I've got a CTEK charger just like that. It's great. However, it doesn't seem to recognise dead batteries.....

Laurel Green

30,779 posts

232 months

Sunday 14th May 2017
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LanceRS said:
Part 2--> Clicky

SHutchinson

2,040 posts

184 months

Monday 15th May 2017
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I thought the CTEK advert was a bit weird at first, but I guess we all need a bit of cash now and then. Plus, it's his channel, he can do what he likes with it and it's pretty relevant to the type of stuff his subscribers actually buy. Most of us have battery charger/conditioners.

If he did a Youtube build series for some of his mad 'cars' it would get a pretty reasonable amount of hits I'm sure.

Laurel Green

30,779 posts

232 months

Monday 15th May 2017
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ClockworkCupcake

74,560 posts

272 months

Monday 15th May 2017
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Laurel Green said:
I watched the first 3-4 mins before getting bored.

Edd should be a politician - he said lots of words but totally failed to answer the questions being asked.

Q: What are the chances of doing a programme with Mark Evans?
A: Yes, I'd like to do that.
(ie. doesn't answer the question, doesn't say what the chances are)

Edited by ClockworkCupcake on Monday 15th May 18:58

Laurel Green

30,779 posts

232 months

Monday 15th May 2017
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ClockworkCupcake said:
I watched the first 3-4 mins before getting bored.

Edd should be a politician - he said lots of words but totally failed to answer the questions being asked.

Q: What are the chances of doing a programme with Mark Evans?
A: Yes, I'd like to do that.
(ie. doesn't answer the question, doesn't say what the chances are)

Edited by ClockworkCupcake on Monday 15th May 18:58
Fishing is what he was at, IMO.