Edd China has left Wheeler Dealers

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DonkeyApple

55,292 posts

169 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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Flip Martian said:
Always amazes me how so many people feel the need to contact these presenters and tell them how crap they are, how mistaken they are, how the person messaging will never watch again.... Its only TV! Go and do something else if you don't like it. Sheesh. Forum discussions are 1 thing but contacting these people and hurling abuse is a weird thing for adults to do.
It's a double edged sword. On one side you have followers who seem dislocated from their reality and have a desperate, desperate need to be recognised or functioning in some way on a par with people who have blue ticks. While on the other side, those with blue ticks, the actresses, are repeatedly broadcasting their abject insecurity and neediness in a 'love me, love me, will someone not just love me' miserable and depraved way.

Not only is it a double edged sword but a symbiotic relationship. They need each other. They are the same desperately needy people that need recognition from others so fervently. So there is no normal middle ground. They either love and felate each other or hate each other in the kind of dysfunctional and utterly vulgar manner of a Sunday afternoon in a flat roofed pub.

And then you have the remainder of humanity who holds those two types of people in utter contempt for their wretched patheticness as humans.

Social media is a wonderful thing but it is in its infancy and everyone is trapped inside one enormous Wetherspoons of global detritus and miserable stupidity. As more time passes it will mature and evolve to genuinely reflect how society naturally operates and to reflect that not everyone desires to find themselves in a Sunday night lock in at a Wetherspoons.

But until then, if you really don't wish to interact with an army of abject fking idiots that you want nothing to do with then don't walk into a flat roofed pub shouting 'look at me, I'm special'.

ClockworkCupcake

74,560 posts

272 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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DonkeyApple said:
Social media is a wonderful thing but it is in its infancy and everyone is trapped inside one enormous Wetherspoons of global detritus and miserable stupidity. As more time passes it will mature and evolve to genuinely reflect how society naturally operates and to reflect that not everyone desires to find themselves in a Sunday night lock in at a Wetherspoons.

But until then, if you really don't wish to interact with an army of abject fking idiots that you want nothing to do with then don't walk into a flat roofed pub shouting 'look at me, I'm special'.
So you're saying that normal people shouldn't use Social Media?

But an internet forum is a form of Social Media. One of the earliest in fact.

So, ergo, you cannot be normal and neither can I. biggrin

Flip Martian

19,679 posts

190 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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court said:
My wife was friends with her from school days. Ultimately he's a decent bloke working in tv land; of course he doesn't deserve the abuse. Its a shame tv people need to have a social media presence for career purposes (as said above). Or at least its a shame he can't employ a minion to do it all for him.

turbomoped

4,180 posts

83 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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If your only measure of worth is getting your your mug on the TV then you would be a bit sad for the breakdown of this partnership.
At the end of the day Ed still has a talent for fixing up old cars which will stand him in good stead for as long as he pleases to do it.
These type of shows seem to struggle in the UK and end up adopting whatever the current fad is.
So its phew my leg hurts sad tale family write in for free car renovation TV which is horrible.

Flip Martian

19,679 posts

190 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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DonkeyApple said:
It's a double edged sword. On one side you have followers who seem dislocated from their reality and have a desperate, desperate need to be recognised or functioning in some way on a par with people who have blue ticks. While on the other side, those with blue ticks, the actresses, are repeatedly broadcasting their abject insecurity and neediness in a 'love me, love me, will someone not just love me' miserable and depraved way.

Not only is it a double edged sword but a symbiotic relationship. They need each other. They are the same desperately needy people that need recognition from others so fervently. So there is no normal middle ground. They either love and felate each other or hate each other in the kind of dysfunctional and utterly vulgar manner of a Sunday afternoon in a flat roofed pub.

And then you have the remainder of humanity who holds those two types of people in utter contempt for their wretched patheticness as humans.

Social media is a wonderful thing but it is in its infancy and everyone is trapped inside one enormous Wetherspoons of global detritus and miserable stupidity. As more time passes it will mature and evolve to genuinely reflect how society naturally operates and to reflect that not everyone desires to find themselves in a Sunday night lock in at a Wetherspoons.

But until then, if you really don't wish to interact with an army of abject fking idiots that you want nothing to do with then don't walk into a flat roofed pub shouting 'look at me, I'm special'.
Agreed in part. There's an element of "look at me I'm special" for some attention we celebs, most certainly. But as said above, working in tv land and having a social media presence go hand in hand for other reasons, and can be looked at to almost measure of how popular you are. Don't get me wrong, some perhaps deserve a bit of abuse - but its all attention and that's what attention wes need. Mike Brewer is just drumming up business for his shows really and getting abuse because the show has altered is just mental.

ClockworkCupcake

74,560 posts

272 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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Flip Martian said:
Agreed in part. There's an element of "look at me I'm special" for some attention we celebs, most certainly. But as said above, working in tv land and having a social media presence go hand in hand for other reasons, and can be looked at to almost measure of how popular you are. Don't get me wrong, some perhaps deserve a bit of abuse - but its all attention and that's what attention wes need. Mike Brewer is just drumming up business for his shows really and getting abuse because the show has altered is just mental.
If you are a celebrity, then your earning potential is directly related to how popular you are. It has always been thus. Social Media is just an extension of that.

Flip Martian

19,679 posts

190 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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ClockworkCupcake said:
If you are a celebrity, then your earning potential is directly related to how popular you are. It has always been thus. Social Media is just an extension of that.
Yes - but there are some clearly there because they have to be and there are some there because they personally have a need to be.

ClockworkCupcake

74,560 posts

272 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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Flip Martian said:
Yes - but there are some clearly there because they have to be and there are some there because they personally have a need to be.
Oh, for sure. Many people go into Show Business due to a huge need for external validation and attention. This has always been thus (as I said before).

Social Media is just an extension of all the things that make celebs want to be celebs. It's just another form of applause, in some respects.


DonkeyApple

55,292 posts

169 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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ClockworkCupcake said:
So you're saying that normal people shouldn't use Social Media?

But an internet forum is a form of Social Media. One of the earliest in fact.

So, ergo, you cannot be normal and neither can I. biggrin
QED. I believe we used to say? biggrin

But things like forums where club mentality is at the root and users aren't specifically following individuals but subjects is much more akin to how human society typically functions. It's the more recent wave of media which is structured around the concept of following an actual individual that I suspect will not remain as dominant as it currently is but de-evolve back to reflect how normal societies function.

It fundamentally isn't normal for a herd of humans to follow one person. People who do this we have generally through history considered to be nutters. These more recent forms of social media seem to focus around the concept of the cult where an individual vies to obtain as many disciples as possible in search of some form of gratification. It is hardly surprising that they tend to be massive magnets. Whether they are leader s or follower s. These platforms just seem to be structured around the most unhealthy aspects of our human natures.

Social media is at its best and healthiest when it reflects the more normal social side of lots of people together but in natural formed smaller groups with a healthy movement of people between groups. Rather than a room full of people who have come to see some s trying to out shout each other over who is the more awesome human being and who can get the most number of people bowing before them.

CAPP0

19,583 posts

203 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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turbomoped said:
At the end of the day Ed still has a talent for fixing up old cars which will stand him in good stead for as long as he pleases to do it.
Although he's going to have to splash out a 6-figure sum to replace all those specialist tools and equipment which I'm sure weren't all his!

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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CAPP0 said:
turbomoped said:
At the end of the day Ed still has a talent for fixing up old cars which will stand him in good stead for as long as he pleases to do it.
Although he's going to have to splash out a 6-figure sum to replace all those specialist tools and equipment which I'm sure weren't all his!
Or you hire/rent them instead.




What's Mrs Brewer talking about Him being ripped off?

Zad

12,700 posts

236 months

Sunday 24th September 2017
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I'm sure any decent tool supplier would be more than happy to supply equipment, they have marketing budgets and the value of advertising from something like this would be huge. Get the right deal and they may even supply a fitted garage / workshop.

BlueHave

4,651 posts

108 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Welshbeef said:
CAPP0 said:
turbomoped said:
At the end of the day Ed still has a talent for fixing up old cars which will stand him in good stead for as long as he pleases to do it.
Although he's going to have to splash out a 6-figure sum to replace all those specialist tools and equipment which I'm sure weren't all his!
Or you hire/rent them instead.




What's Mrs Brewer talking about Him being ripped off?
Probably just passing the blame and trying to make her husband out to be the victim. He sold his soul to the American television devil for a bag of money.



Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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BlueHave said:
Probably just passing the blame and trying to make her husband out to be the victim. He sold his soul to the American television devil for a bag of money.
The way it read was that it was a long time ago not recent.

Coincidently Ed too would have made a boat load of cash sellling his share to the Americans.

bobski1

1,774 posts

104 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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court said:
Curious to know more about the ripped off part of that...

TEKNOPUG

18,951 posts

205 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Ultimately the success in the UK was that they were working on (the vast majority of the time) UK/European market cars. If they reduce the ratio of European cars and increase the US cars - which is probably inevitable - then it just becomes another US car show, of which there are many already (including online) that are better than WD.

LordLoveLength

1,929 posts

130 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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TEKNOPUG

18,951 posts

205 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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LordLoveLength said:
Wow!

B17NNS

18,506 posts

247 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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LordLoveLength said:
Always thought there was a bit more to this story.

DonkeyApple

55,292 posts

169 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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B17NNS said:
LordLoveLength said:
Always thought there was a bit more to this story.
Might get a good old slappers' bhfight now. biggrin

So Ed apparently wanted others to do the big jobs leaving him to do the presenting side. Seems logical to be fair. I wonder if he'll now respond highlighting that Mike had 'chaps' doing much of his donkey work as well?