Traffic Cops Channel 5

[pavarotti1980]

Kamov said:

That's all well and good and i agree, i was an idiot, but they are the professionals with training. Wasting resources on some stupid person daring to say 'pig' near them, we are talking 5 or 6 police plus a van for me and night in cells for no reason other than just because they could, but next day wonder out with nothing as i didn't do anything really worth grabbing me for.

If someone walked past you and called you a 'knob' and your reaction was getting 5 mates to pile into them and doing a citizens arrest and taking them to the station in your mates van, do you think the police there would say your actions were proportionate?

It's the same with speeding or whatever, if I'm over the speed limit by say 10mph on the M1, it should not matter if i have attitude or not, the offence is the offence, you should not 'get off' because you suck balls........
Deal with the offence, if any, not the attitude.

IMO some of the police look for this reaction and that is where their enjoyment comes from, adrenalin is a powerful drug.

I think you are missing the root cause of the problem here. The fact you are oblivious to what was the outcome of your outburst suggest a lack of insight into your own behaviour and I would suggest it was probably a tad more trivial than just shouting pigs at them. probably the public order equivalent of "being done for 31 in a 30"

Edited by pavarotti1980 on Thursday 28th December 13:54

[Kamov]

pavarotti1980 said:

I think you are missing the root cause of the problem here. The fact you are oblivious to what was the outcome of your outburst suggest a lack of insight into your own behaviour and I would suggest it was probably a tad more trivial than just shouting pigs at them. probably the public order equivalent of "being done for 31 in a 30"

Edited by pavarotti1980 on Thursday 28th December 13:54

Well pretty much a week before I'd been knocked out by a chav st because he took a shine to a girl I was with and I made it clear I thought he was a cretin, she ran off to a police car in town and told them what had happened and they, according to her, said 'not our problem'.

So yes i wasn't a big fan of the police at that time in my life as I was out and about in town every night as i was young, in towns you see the worst of the police and of humans.

I personally don't think attitude should have anything to do with policing. Either I've done something criminal or not, how my attitude is should not matter at all to trained coppers unless they enjoy the power trip.

[djc206]

Kamov said:

Well pretty much a week before I'd been knocked out by a chav st because he took a shine to a girl I was with and I made it clear I thought he was a cretin, she ran off to a police car in town and told them what had happened and they, according to her, said 'not our problem'.

So yes i wasn't a big fan of the police at that time in my life as I was out and about in town every night as i was young, in towns you see the worst of the police and of humans.

I personally don't think attitude should have anything to do with policing. Either I've done something criminal or not, how my attitude is should not matter at all to trained coppers unless they enjoy the power trip.

They’re humans, they have feelings just like you. If you expect humans not to react to others being total pricks to them then I’m afraid it’s your expectations that are unreasonable not their reaction to your attitude problem.

Why an adult thinks they can talk to one copper without showing a basic level of common decency or respect because another one allegedly dismissed their issue is beyond me. It makes no more sense than me hating all bald men because one cut me up on a roundabout a couple of days ago. Totally and utterly illogical.

[daqinggregg]

I was brought up in a rural area, and taught to show respect to the police. When I went to university, l had a part time job as a taxi driver, so late nights in town; I just couldn’t believe the behaviour of some people towards the police.

I treat the police, the same as anyone else I meet, with respect. It’s served me well.

[Kamov]

djc206 said:

They’re humans, they have feelings just like you. If you expect humans not to react to others being total pricks to them then I’m afraid it’s your expectations that are unreasonable not their reaction to your attitude problem.

Why an adult thinks they can talk to one copper without showing a basic level of common decency or respect because another one allegedly dismissed their issue is beyond me. It makes no more sense than me hating all bald men because one cut me up on a roundabout a couple of days ago. Totally and utterly illogical.

Still sort of missing my point, if it takes 6 coppers and a van to 'arrest' some mouthy person, who they know full well hasn't done anything that requires more than being forced to spend a night in the cells and next day walk out with some cautionary words.
Seems like a massive waste of time and energy unless some coppers relish these altercations and or, it takes up time so they don't have to be actually out on the streets.

The police catch a paedophile and because he has the right attitude, hands up, no drama he gets treated with respect. Some bloke is a bit mouthy as he walks past some coppers and gets piled on......
I know which one i'd rather got the beating.

Anyway, it is what it is, i don't go out these days and I've not drank for 10 years so none of it really matters to me now.
I just see a lot of police behaviour which isn't dissimilar to the George Floyd video, so i guess you have to be black for people to give a crap.
Tony Timpa's family would agree with that.

[Richtea1970]

Kamov said:

The police catch a paedophile and because he has the right attitude, hands up, no drama he gets treated with respect. Some bloke is a bit mouthy as he walks past some coppers and gets piled on......
I know which one i'd rather got the beating

I think you’ve answered your own question there haven’t you?

[eldar]

Kamov said:

Still sort of missing my point, if it takes 6 coppers and a van to 'arrest' some mouthy person, who they know full well hasn't done anything that requires more than being forced to spend a night in the cells and next day walk out with some cautionary words.
Seems like a massive waste of time and energy unless some coppers relish these altercations and or, it takes up time so they don't have to be actually out on the streets.

The police catch a paedophile and because he has the right attitude, hands up, no drama he gets treated with respect. Some bloke is a bit mouthy as he walks past some coppers and gets piled on......
I know which one i'd rather got the beating.

Anyway, it is what it is, i don't go out these days and I've not drank for 10 years so none of it really matters to me now.
I just see a lot of police behaviour which isn't dissimilar to the George Floyd video, so i guess you have to be black for people to give a crap.
Tony Timpa's family would agree with that.

Cobblers. The police don't have the manpower or legal powers to arrest and detain someone for simply saying pigs to a copper. The custody sgt. would laugh and bk them.

This either happened 30 years ago, and/or you are seriously misrepresenting what happened.

So exactly where, when and what were you arrested and detained overnight? There will be records, so you'd be able to formally complain.

[djc206]

Kamov said:

Still sort of missing my point, if it takes 6 coppers and a van to 'arrest' some mouthy person, who they know full well hasn't done anything that requires more than being forced to spend a night in the cells and next day walk out with some cautionary words.
Seems like a massive waste of time and energy unless some coppers relish these altercations and or, it takes up time so they don't have to be actually out on the streets.

The police catch a paedophile and because he has the right attitude, hands up, no drama he gets treated with respect. Some bloke is a bit mouthy as he walks past some coppers and gets piled on......
I know which one i'd rather got the beating.

Anyway, it is what it is, i don't go out these days and I've not drank for 10 years so none of it really matters to me now.
I just see a lot of police behaviour which isn't dissimilar to the George Floyd video, so i guess you have to be black for people to give a crap.
Tony Timpa's family would agree with that.

I don’t see why police should let public order offences slide. Don’t get lippy with other people is the moral of the story.

If excessive force by police officers was that commonplace or as extreme as the force used in the George Floyd incident we’d have a large number of deaths in custody, as it is they’re vanishingly rare so the stats don’t support your assertion that you see similar regularly.

If you’ve ever tried to control someone who is manic and doesn’t want to be controlled safely you’d know just how much strength and how many people it takes to do it. It might look like a pile on but drunk/drugged up people take an awful lot of controlling.

Casual racism, stay classy.

[daqinggregg]

Richtea1970 said:

Kamov said:

The police catch a paedophile and because he has the right attitude, hands up, no drama he gets treated with respect. Some bloke is a bit mouthy as he walks past some coppers and gets piled on......
I know which one i'd rather got the beating

I think you’ve answered your own question there haven’t you?

Why shouldn't the paedophile, be treated with respect, innocent until proven guilty.

[Kamov]

eldar said:

Cobblers. The police don't have the manpower or legal powers to arrest and detain someone for simply saying pigs to a copper. The custody sgt. would laugh and bk them.

This either happened 30 years ago, and/or you are seriously misrepresenting what happened.

So exactly where, when and what were you arrested and detained overnight? There will be records, so you'd be able to formally complain.

47 now so about 29 years ago.
I actually said, or sang, as I was walking through town "we are the pigs", which was at the time a new Suede song in the charts...
Pretty sure this was around the time I'd had my bi polar diagnosis and I was on an awful medication which made me manic constantly, which at the time felt great, but looking back was carnage.

I was sober as not had a chance to start drinking yet, the copper dared me to say it or sing it again, so I did.
He grabs my arm up behind my back, i instinctively react as he was really hurting my arm, he says 'STOP RESISTING' and of course his merry men and women all come running with ironically manic glee and get me on the floor and at that point its just a mess of people trying to force a human into impossible positions at the same time and expecting me to just go limp....

It didn't effect me, so no harm done, but over the years I have wondered why the police react like this and i guess its 'he must be drunk or on drugs'.
I think the police have no respect for drunk people and treat anyone presenting with odd behaviour as drunk.

The wider point was that after the George Floyd case, I've seen even just on UK police shows that type of incident many times and it comes when the person isn't compliant or a bit mouthy.

So either that case was massively over egged and got a copper a life term, or the police even over here are using tactics that can kill you.

[LARK F1 GTR]

Is it on this week? I can't see it listed

[Saleen836]

LARK F1 GTR said:

Is it on this week? I can't see it listed

Back on Mon 8th

[LARK F1 GTR]

Cool. Thank you

[droopsnoot]

Bit of a non-episode last night, though to me that means "no car chases". A burglary special edition, though it was quite funny that the getaway driver was the only one to get charged - "You just wait here, love, just say you're waiting for your friends if anyone asks". But perhaps when you're not tanked up, and with a boot full of fuel containers and tubing.

[SydneyBridge]

Very boring with no car chases...

[Levin]

Dud episode, wouldn't waste my time if I hadn't already watched it.

[GetCarter]

Father and son should be in a circus.

[ashleyman]

GetCarter said:

Father and son should be in a circus.

embarrassing.

[WPA]

Worlds dumbest criminals with the cloned Focus, not hard to see it was an Focus ST in Tangerine Scream yet was showing as a Titanium TDCI 5 years newer.

[thetapeworm]

GetCarter said:

Father and son should be in a circus.

Given they ran away after being given the money and car full of dubious stuff back they may well have done exactly that, the "hearbreak duo" - utterly ridiculous pair that should have been charged with wasting police time as well as all the other stuff they've got away with.

Did they say there were 45,000 convictions for driving while banned or without a license last year? Presumably some of those are the same people over and over but that's insane.