Traffic Cops Channel 5
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cjs racing. said:
Southerner said:
Watching it now. Motorcyclist on the deck, spinal injuries, laid there in p*ssing rain for TWO HOURS awaiting an ambo. Traffic cop eventually leaving to go and fetch a spinal board from the ambo station round the corner. Utter disgrace, UK is f***ed.
As luck would have it he returned with an ambo in tow, but what an utter shambles.
I'm getting very angry watching this.As luck would have it he returned with an ambo in tow, but what an utter shambles.
He also tried to minimise the incident saying "maybe the car driver isn't used to driving in the rain" WELL THEY SHOULDN'T BE ON THE ROAD THEN.
The thing that annoys me is that because one service doesn’t have any resource another service then ends up having to spend hours at the scene of an incident which has a knock on impact on their ability to attend their other jobs. It could simply be that the ambulances are queued up at a hospital somewhere but that still demonstrates how one weak link and the whole system collapses. Poor bloke having to lay on the floor like that not knowing if he was badly injured or not. Time to invest properly in our public services.
Good episode of Traffic Cops although rather depressing to see some of the scum we have to share this island with.
We saw the best of Britain and the worst this week. The local community who assisted the injured biker and cooperated with the police, and the 'diverse' area who all came out en masse because the police had stopped one of 'their' people, and decided to give him grief for doing his job. These people offer nothing of value to this country whatsoever.
We saw the best of Britain and the worst this week. The local community who assisted the injured biker and cooperated with the police, and the 'diverse' area who all came out en masse because the police had stopped one of 'their' people, and decided to give him grief for doing his job. These people offer nothing of value to this country whatsoever.
djc206 said:
I don’t think he was minimising it, he was explaining how it can happen in those conditions. How would people gain experience driving in the rain without driving in the rain?
The thing that annoys me is that because one service doesn’t have any resource another service then ends up having to spend hours at the scene of an incident which has a knock on impact on their ability to attend their other jobs. It could simply be that the ambulances are queued up at a hospital somewhere but that still demonstrates how one weak link and the whole system collapses. Poor bloke having to lay on the floor like that not knowing if he was badly injured or not. Time to invest properly in our public services.
You could draw the conclusion we need more ambulances and crews but how common a situation is this? I imagine the best systems in the world would be overwhelmed sometimes. If you have enough resources to meet rare events, it might mean that most of the time they are heavily under-utilised which would be a waste of resources which could be used to much better effect elsewhere (given that resources will never be unlimited). I don't know the answer but it might not be a simple one. The thing that annoys me is that because one service doesn’t have any resource another service then ends up having to spend hours at the scene of an incident which has a knock on impact on their ability to attend their other jobs. It could simply be that the ambulances are queued up at a hospital somewhere but that still demonstrates how one weak link and the whole system collapses. Poor bloke having to lay on the floor like that not knowing if he was badly injured or not. Time to invest properly in our public services.
Seraph14 said:
djc206 said:
I don’t think he was minimising it, he was explaining how it can happen in those conditions. How would people gain experience driving in the rain without driving in the rain?
The thing that annoys me is that because one service doesn’t have any resource another service then ends up having to spend hours at the scene of an incident which has a knock on impact on their ability to attend their other jobs. It could simply be that the ambulances are queued up at a hospital somewhere but that still demonstrates how one weak link and the whole system collapses. Poor bloke having to lay on the floor like that not knowing if he was badly injured or not. Time to invest properly in our public services.
You could draw the conclusion we need more ambulances and crews but how common a situation is this? I imagine the best systems in the world would be overwhelmed sometimes. If you have enough resources to meet rare events, it might mean that most of the time they are heavily under-utilised which would be a waste of resources which could be used to much better effect elsewhere (given that resources will never be unlimited). I don't know the answer but it might not be a simple one. The thing that annoys me is that because one service doesn’t have any resource another service then ends up having to spend hours at the scene of an incident which has a knock on impact on their ability to attend their other jobs. It could simply be that the ambulances are queued up at a hospital somewhere but that still demonstrates how one weak link and the whole system collapses. Poor bloke having to lay on the floor like that not knowing if he was badly injured or not. Time to invest properly in our public services.
Seraph14 said:
You could draw the conclusion we need more ambulances and crews but how common a situation is this? I imagine the best systems in the world would be overwhelmed sometimes. If you have enough resources to meet rare events, it might mean that most of the time they are heavily under-utilised which would be a waste of resources which could be used to much better effect elsewhere (given that resources will never be unlimited). I don't know the answer but it might not be a simple one.
We probably don’t have enough ambulances or more acccurately paramedics, but it appears from watching other programmes about the ambulance service that the bottleneck is often at hospital where services are stretched way too thin and not just on bad days. Anyone who has tried to go to A&E will likely be able to testify to the lack of resources in emergency care. Unless your leg is hanging off you’re likely going to be in for a multi hour wait. Positive pressure on services is not necessarily a bad thing, it’s a marker like you say of getting your resource level about right and minimising wastage but when you’ve got a guy with possible spinal injuries laying on the ground for a couple of hours because it’s rained a bit it’s probably a sign that something has a bit awry somewhere, it’s just a case of finding where that somewhere is and providing additional capacity so the rest of the system can go back to flowing freely.Seraph14 said:
You could draw the conclusion we need more ambulances and crews but how common a situation is this? I imagine the best systems in the world would be overwhelmed sometimes. If you have enough resources to meet rare events, it might mean that most of the time they are heavily under-utilised which would be a waste of resources which could be used to much better effect elsewhere (given that resources will never be unlimited). I don't know the answer but it might not be a simple one.
My partner was taken to hospital by ambulance 3 weeks ago. Arrived on a Thursday lunchtime,and was the 21st ambulance in the queue. Waiting time was between 4 and 10 hours, actually 7.This, apparently is not unusual.
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Paul Dishman said:
Meanwhile it takes a special brand of utter bellend to live-stream yourself speeding around the place
Having caught a couple of these videos online they always sound like absolute spuds. Unfortunately like cockroaches when they crash in spectacular fashion they tend to crawl out relatively unscathed. djc206 said:
We probably don’t have enough ambulances or more acccurately paramedics, but it appears from watching other programmes about the ambulance service that the bottleneck is often at hospital where services are stretched way too thin and not just on bad days. Anyone who has tried to go to A&E will likely be able to testify to the lack of resources in emergency care. Unless your leg is hanging off you’re likely going to be in for a multi hour wait. Positive pressure on services is not necessarily a bad thing, it’s a marker like you say of getting your resource level about right and minimising wastage but when you’ve got a guy with possible spinal injuries laying on the ground for a couple of hours because it’s rained a bit it’s probably a sign that something has a bit awry somewhere, it’s just a case of finding where that somewhere is and providing additional capacity so the rest of the system can go back to flowing freely.
The lack of resource is definitely not in the emergency departments. That backlog is caused much further down the line (or back up the line). Try social care and the inability for hospitals to discharge patients safely. You end up with patients well enough to go home but unable to due to no care packages in place because of a crumbling adult social care system in the community. That patient who is now a bed blocker prevents admissions which clogs up A&E as the patients who require admission have nowhere to go and then this causes ambulances to be stacked up outside of A&E because the patients waiting for beds are using the A&E facilities/corridors until a bed is free. If social care was properly funded and managed which was the intention of Integrated Care Systems then this would solve a lot of NHS issues with capacity. Unfortunately we have one of the most inept governments in living memory knowing they will get booted out at the next GE kicking the can down the road for the incumbent government to have to deal with so they can shout from the opposition bench how they are putting up taxes and screwing the working person. Utter scum
Also never believe the propaganda of "record investment" in the NHS either. The trust I work for have a black hole of £54m for 24/25 due to a reduction in funding. The ICS/ICB has £500m less to use than the collective CCGs had for the same area 2 years ago. Plus lots of other "efficiency" issues
djc206 said:
Paul Dishman said:
Meanwhile it takes a special brand of utter bellend to live-stream yourself speeding around the place
Having caught a couple of these videos online they always sound like absolute spuds. Unfortunately like cockroaches when they crash in spectacular fashion they tend to crawl out relatively unscathed. What was the vest about? "I go to the gym" so what? They do make clothes to fit people who go to the gym.
I've never heard the phrase "Tazzing it about" before. I've heard razzing it around and ragging it around before, not tazzing it though.
pavarotti1980 said:
If social care was properly funded and managed which was the intention of Integrated Care Systems then this would solve a lot of NHS issues with capacity. Unfortunately we have one of the most inept governments in living memory knowing they will get booted out at the next GE kicking the can down the road for the incumbent government to have to deal with so they can shout from the opposition bench how they are putting up taxes and screwing the working person. Utter scum
What a classy comment. It's funny how people forget what life under a Labour government is like. The last one flooded the NHS with layers and layers of middle management at huge cost to the tax payer and no effect on the quality of care. The next one will be the same with armies of diversity advisers in every facet of public life doing nothing except creating more division not less, certainly not improving health care. A lot of what Labour are talking about is just not feasible, some of the rest risks public disorder and Reeves needs to learn to add up and understand that one pot of money can only be spent once. A whole generation of younger voters is going to get a very nasty shock over the next 5 years when it finds out that Labour is not some mythical deliverer of utopia. Starmer is a political chancer who gets away with it in opposition where talk is cheap and there is no accountability. He will get found out when changing direction like a weather vane in a tornado is no longer an option. Not being the tories might win you one election, it won't win you two. Unless Labour dump three quarters of what they are talking about they'll be one term and done.
I don't do politics, but I've noticed whenever Labour are in charge, they go through money like water running up massive deficits, Conservatives get voted in and austerity comes in trying to balance the books, the country doesn't like that so Labour get voted back in and run up the bills again and so it continues!
siremoon said:
What a classy comment. It's funny how people forget what life under a Labour government is like. The last one flooded the NHS with layers and layers of middle management at huge cost to the tax payer and no effect on the quality of care. The next one will be the same with armies of diversity advisers in every facet of public life doing nothing except creating more division not less, certainly not improving health care.
A lot of what Labour are talking about is just not feasible, some of the rest risks public disorder and Reeves needs to learn to add up and understand that one pot of money can only be spent once. A whole generation of younger voters is going to get a very nasty shock over the next 5 years when it finds out that Labour is not some mythical deliverer of utopia. Starmer is a political chancer who gets away with it in opposition where talk is cheap and there is no accountability. He will get found out when changing direction like a weather vane in a tornado is no longer an option. Not being the tories might win you one election, it won't win you two. Unless Labour dump three quarters of what they are talking about they'll be one term and done.
Comment is entirely true regardless of whether you sont like it. A lot of what Labour are talking about is just not feasible, some of the rest risks public disorder and Reeves needs to learn to add up and understand that one pot of money can only be spent once. A whole generation of younger voters is going to get a very nasty shock over the next 5 years when it finds out that Labour is not some mythical deliverer of utopia. Starmer is a political chancer who gets away with it in opposition where talk is cheap and there is no accountability. He will get found out when changing direction like a weather vane in a tornado is no longer an option. Not being the tories might win you one election, it won't win you two. Unless Labour dump three quarters of what they are talking about they'll be one term and done.
The labour government in 97 invested in crumbling buildings and infrastructure to work within in them. Given you think the middle managers flooded the NHS what were the numbers in 1996 of managers (N= and/or % of WTE or headcount) compared to the following years to. Waiting lists were down, quality of care was up bla bla bla.
Compare that to the last 14 years which has been a collection of lies, flawed ideology, smoke and mirrors and general incompetence from a bunch of self serving fools who shouldn't be trusted with a sharpened pencil never mind running a country. Successive buffoons have ruined this country. I think the overriding memory should be that Theresa May was probably the most competent and that says a lot
siremoon said:
What a classy comment. It's funny how people forget what life under a Labour government is like. The last one flooded the NHS with layers and layers of middle management at huge cost to the tax payer and no effect on the quality of care. The next one will be the same with armies of diversity advisers in every facet of public life doing nothing except creating more division not less, certainly not improving health care.
A lot of what Labour are talking about is just not feasible, some of the rest risks public disorder and Reeves needs to learn to add up and understand that one pot of money can only be spent once. A whole generation of younger voters is going to get a very nasty shock over the next 5 years when it finds out that Labour is not some mythical deliverer of utopia. Starmer is a political chancer who gets away with it in opposition where talk is cheap and there is no accountability. He will get found out when changing direction like a weather vane in a tornado is no longer an option. Not being the tories might win you one election, it won't win you two. Unless Labour dump three quarters of what they are talking about they'll be one term and done.
To be fair, we have that right now under the not-conservatives. You're right about Labour but the modern Tories are no better and could even be worse. Both hopeless but at least Labour would probably pay staff a bit better so we'd have less trouble recruiting and retaining them. Immigration is also at insane levels under the Tories which puts unsustainable pressure on... everything. A lot of what Labour are talking about is just not feasible, some of the rest risks public disorder and Reeves needs to learn to add up and understand that one pot of money can only be spent once. A whole generation of younger voters is going to get a very nasty shock over the next 5 years when it finds out that Labour is not some mythical deliverer of utopia. Starmer is a political chancer who gets away with it in opposition where talk is cheap and there is no accountability. He will get found out when changing direction like a weather vane in a tornado is no longer an option. Not being the tories might win you one election, it won't win you two. Unless Labour dump three quarters of what they are talking about they'll be one term and done.
(sorry if we're not allowed to talk politics here, I won't say any more. This was just in the context of ambulance availability and the wider picture of why that is.)
I watched one the other day thatI remmber being on quite recently.
Three absolute drains on society with a red Fiesta they'd stolen when gate chasing a house party. It was the one where they streamed it and kept calling the police mush.
Oh and it had the bloke with a white BMW in it who crashed into a wall.. have you been shagging my wife???
Three absolute drains on society with a red Fiesta they'd stolen when gate chasing a house party. It was the one where they streamed it and kept calling the police mush.
Oh and it had the bloke with a white BMW in it who crashed into a wall.. have you been shagging my wife???
Downward said:
Ah shame about those 3 lads on the scooter.
Combined 68 years sounds massive for three thieves. Twenty-two years apiece would leave me thinking they were into more than just stealing scooters.The Golf driver in the last segment was a real surprise. Maybe it's because the police came in heavy but he was far, far more docile and more willing to admit he'd done wrong than I would ever have expected. One thing about this episode I noticed is that it contradicted the usual expectation for a drugs wipe, that if it responds quickly the individual is miles over the limit. The guy driving the Transit Custom flagged quickly and still got away under the legal limit.
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