The Orville - Seth MacFarlane comedy Star Trek

The Orville - Seth MacFarlane comedy Star Trek

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LuS1fer

41,153 posts

246 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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First six episodes now watched and it loses no impetus.
Star Trek characters from every series are very skilfully blended into the new characters, it might just as well be called Star Trek.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

235 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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Finished watching the first season last night. Did the whole thing in two, long sessions. I was totally hooked!

It's definitely more sci-fi than comedy but that's not a bad thing, it just makes the quips all the funnier when they're delivered. The story lines were all really good but I particularly liked the Majority Rule episode with the social justice.

Looking forward to more.

mko9

2,391 posts

213 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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I couldn't tell if it was trying to be a parody/send up of Star Trek, or trying to be Star Trek. If the former, it wasn't funny. If the later, it came across as very low rent to me.

LuS1fer

41,153 posts

246 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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Watched all and it was consistently good. OK, the shuttles look like low rent effects but so what. There are very real original ST influences like travelling to the surface of an "early Earth" plant - hey, aren't they all.
I was watching an early one with Spock hiding his ears under a German helmet.

Like Mad Idolatry and the clever way they moved rapidly through time so you got to see "how that turned out".

People forget that the original series had a lot of semi-humorous tongue in cheek scenes and Shatner had more than enough romantic interest. To say this is low rent is to forget just how low rent the first generation was.

Pebbles167

3,463 posts

153 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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Not necessarily comparable, but I've enjoyed three episodes of this more than I enjoyed three episodes of Star Trek discovery. Sure, some of the jokes fall a little flat, but for the most part it's all gelling well with me.

marcosgt

11,030 posts

177 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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It's definitely more ST than comedy.

The jokes are shoe horned in and mostly not very funny.

It looks like ST most of the time, I'd disagree about it looking 'low rent', but it does feel a bit like TV fan fiction!

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carl_w

9,200 posts

259 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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Hmm, watched ep 4 and it didn't seem to be a comedy at all.

Not sure why anyone is complaining about the SFX -- they're better than the early ST:TNG episodes.

hairyben

8,516 posts

184 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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The humours a little more subtle though - if you get it you'll be chuckling lots, I was. They really satorise ST - I mean slanting the Klingons into a pair of bhy homo's is golden.

Meanwhile they're not afraid to tackle some of the more controversial issues such as the trans baby - thought that ep was pretty dark.

Even mrs hairy who loathes anything star trek/wars finds it quite watchable

Rawwr

22,722 posts

235 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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hairyben said:
Meanwhile they're not afraid to tackle some of the more controversial issues such as the trans baby - thought that ep was pretty dark.
That episode was brilliant. I'm was really expecting a cop out and for them to win the court case.

frisbee

4,984 posts

111 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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Star Trek has always had comedy elements - Data's cat, Q, Troi's mum, Reginald Barclay, Jean Luc Picard being French but having an English accent. Most of them didn't really work.

Orville also seems to be confronting some of the issues that Star Trek brushes over or ignores completely.

irocfan

40,582 posts

191 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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Rawwr said:
hairyben said:
Meanwhile they're not afraid to tackle some of the more controversial issues such as the trans baby - thought that ep was pretty dark.
That episode was brilliant. I'm was really expecting a cop out and for them to win the court case.
I must admit that I was sort of disappointed in the outcome but glad at the same time... it certainly wasn't an easy choice to make for the makers

hairyben

8,516 posts

184 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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irocfan said:
Rawwr said:
hairyben said:
Meanwhile they're not afraid to tackle some of the more controversial issues such as the trans baby - thought that ep was pretty dark.
That episode was brilliant. I'm was really expecting a cop out and for them to win the court case.
I must admit that I was sort of disappointed in the outcome but glad at the same time... it certainly wasn't an easy choice to make for the makers
me too initially, but I think they did it for a reason, there's multiple commentary going on there and maybe ending it happy clappy would have undermined that.

juggsy

1,430 posts

131 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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Apparently season 2 will focus more on the sci-if/story and the comedy will come if and when appropriate: https://www.avclub.com/seth-macfarlane-says-the-or...

eps

6,297 posts

270 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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Caught the first 4 episodes on Now TV - really enjoyed it! Some great comedy in there and some amazing parodies of Star Trek - although so far I haven't seen a 'red top' being killed off whilst on an away party... They've missed that one so far or is it too obvious?

SpudLink

5,888 posts

193 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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eps said:
Caught the first 4 episodes on Now TV - really enjoyed it! Some great comedy in there and some amazing parodies of Star Trek - although so far I haven't seen a 'red top' being killed off whilst on an away party... They've missed that one so far or is it too obvious?
I think Galaxy Quest did the definative version of the Red Shirt, with the Sam Rockwell character.

LuS1fer

41,153 posts

246 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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eps said:
Caught the first 4 episodes on Now TV - really enjoyed it! Some great comedy in there and some amazing parodies of Star Trek - although so far I haven't seen a 'red top' being killed off whilst on an away party... They've missed that one so far or is it too obvious?
No, they haven't. I also like the way they have dispelled the "convenience" of the transporter, more realistic (OK, it's all relative) to have to use a shuttle.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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It's far more serious and genuine than I expected. Sure there's the odd cringy dick joke but overall it's a decent sci-fi series

irocfan

40,582 posts

191 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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TBH I currently prefer it to the new Netflix ST series (Discovery?)

Flip Martian

19,718 posts

191 months

Wednesday 10th January 2018
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I did think the shuttle pilots were the Orville equivalent of the red shirts - but I think they only used that device a couple of times, ultimately. A strange mix of comedy and drama but I think it works really well. Wife and I have been in hysterics quite a few times watching this.

carl_w

9,200 posts

259 months

Saturday 13th January 2018
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I thought Episode 5 was brilliant -- really starting to like the robot character.