The Orville - Seth MacFarlane comedy Star Trek

The Orville - Seth MacFarlane comedy Star Trek

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Rawwr

22,722 posts

234 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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Excellent stuff. I've really enjoyed all the episodes but the last two have been beyond that.

vixen1700

22,937 posts

270 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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Excellent episode last night.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

234 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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I'm really impressed how they've managed to get such a good balance between nerdy sci-fi stuff, emotional stuff and comedy stuff. You don't normally see that kind of cohesiveness and balance in such a young show.

chris watton

22,477 posts

260 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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I am saving this week's part one until part two comes out next week, so I can watch them together..

GTiMike

16 posts

62 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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seems to have got alittle more serious this season the first had alot more jokes of the family guy variety (which i personally like ) the second season has been more drama than comedy for me but still has its clasic macfarlane moments

Flip Martian

19,701 posts

190 months

Friday 1st March 2019
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Far less comedy in this 2 parter but it was really well done. Watched it after the latest Discovery episode; what an antidote to that over complicated gobbledygook. Far more Trek-like in many ways.

carl_w

9,187 posts

258 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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Struggling to avoid part 2 spoilers but I wonder if the blue eyes vs red eyes is of significance?

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

159 months

Saturday 2nd March 2019
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carl_w said:
Struggling to avoid part 2 spoilers but I wonder if the blue eyes vs red eyes is of significance?
Ya think?

I thought it was being telegraphed..... like light sabre colours.

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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Doesn’t make sense to me. Why risk war and inevitable losses plus taking on 300 races when you can just colonate an empty planet.

Are we thinking all those dead bodies are them or a different race the killed when they took the planet over.


Baby Shark doo doo doo doo

15,077 posts

169 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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Pesty said:
Doesn’t make sense to me. Why risk war and inevitable losses plus taking on 300 races when you can just colonate an empty planet.

Are we thinking all those dead bodies are them or a different race the killed when they took the planet over.

I think they explained that they were the builders. The builders ended up in a war with the machines and ended up exterminated.

jagnet

4,114 posts

202 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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Pesty said:
Doesn’t make sense to me. Why risk war and inevitable losses plus taking on 300 races when you can just colonate an empty planet.
I did wonder at the time, but I think that logically it'd make sense to invade an existing technologically developed planet if casualties can be minimised. The existing infrastructure is already in place rather than having to build power stations, transport links etc from scratch. Being mechanoids without emotion then casualties are a simple cost v benefit analysis and as we saw they were prepared to wait for the opportunity given to them by the Orville to reduce potential losses to a suitably low level.

As we saw from their own planet, once the invasion was complete they'd clearly be very efficient at removing any remaining human threat.

JonChalk

6,469 posts

110 months

Sunday 3rd March 2019
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jagnet said:
Pesty said:
Doesn’t make sense to me. Why risk war and inevitable losses plus taking on 300 races when you can just colonate an empty planet.
I did wonder at the time, but I think that logically it'd make sense to invade an existing technologically developed planet if casualties can be minimised. The existing infrastructure is already in place rather than having to build power stations, transport links etc from scratch. Being mechanoids without emotion then casualties are a simple cost v benefit analysis and as we saw they were prepared to wait for the opportunity given to them by the Orville to reduce potential losses to a suitably low level.

As we saw from their own planet, once the invasion was complete they'd clearly be very efficient at removing any remaining human threat.
Don't think it was about colonisation or invasion, but eradication.

The Kaylon are concerned that the enslavement tendencies of "biologicals" will always resurface, and therefore they would be better off eliminating the threat(s) now while they had a technological advantage.


jagnet

4,114 posts

202 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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JonChalk said:
Don't think it was about colonisation or invasion, but eradication.
A bit of both, I think. I watched part 1 again last night and the Kaylons stated that they'd reached the informational capacity of their own planet; with their population increasing exponentially they needed to expand to new worlds. The implication, I think, was that whilst all was well in isolation on Kaylon, it was their future expansion that would bring them into conflict with biologicals, that co-existence was impossible from what they'd learned through Isaac and hence the need to eradicate. Colonisation and eradication thus occurring concurrently.

MissChief

7,111 posts

168 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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A bit predictable at the end. I was hoping for some sort of Virus or malevolent being controlling them rather than Isaac saving them.

JonChalk

6,469 posts

110 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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jagnet said:
A bit of both, I think. I watched part 1 again last night and the Kaylons stated that they'd reached the informational capacity of their own planet; with their population increasing exponentially they needed to expand to new worlds. The implication, I think, was that whilst all was well in isolation on Kaylon, it was their future expansion that would bring them into conflict with biologicals, that co-existence was impossible from what they'd learned through Isaac and hence the need to eradicate. Colonisation and eradication thus occurring concurrently.
Good point - need to watch it (pt2) again, really.

jagnet

4,114 posts

202 months

Monday 4th March 2019
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I was trying to work out what sci-fi classics were referenced in the landing on Kaylon in part 1.

Star Trek The Motion Picure, the approach to the centre of V'ger
Star Wars, Cloud City and the transporting of a frozen Han Solo; visually very similar to the planet Coruscant.
Aliens, a definite hint of the flute in James Horner's score as they descended through the clouds.
The Matrix, hovercraft pad technology for the landing clamps plus the music as the clamps engaged

Anybody recognise any others?

slipstream 1985

12,225 posts

179 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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Baby Shark doo doo doo doo said:
Pesty said:
Doesn’t make sense to me. Why risk war and inevitable losses plus taking on 300 races when you can just colonate an empty planet.

Are we thinking all those dead bodies are them or a different race the killed when they took the planet over.

I think they explained that they were the builders. The builders ended up in a war with the machines and ended up exterminated.
Surely the idea taken from the voyager episode "prototype" in which tores learns of an androi type life that exterminated their creators.

slipstream 1985

12,225 posts

179 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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Also great episodes.

chris watton

22,477 posts

260 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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Will be watching this 2-parter in full tonight, looking forward to it.

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

100 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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Saw Identity Part 2 last night. Loved it

Is that the end of the season?