Star Trek: Discovery - New series on Netflix

[Zoobeef]

Wobbegong said:

Zoobeef said:

Given that the crew is about 70% female. I wonder what's changed from our current military 10% female.

I bet the Feminazis would still be moaning about inequality and the overly Male environment

Also given that this is set before ToS I assume Starfleet realised that having that many women on a ship was unworkable 😂

[Streetrod]

300bhp/ton said:

Streetrod said:

If you watched this latest episode it would appear that the spor based jump drive is not a sustainable means of transport judging by the effect is had on the big bug. Therefore I suspect it will be dropped as a sustainable system if it kills the creature in the process which would be very much against the ethics of Star Fleet. That's why it does not appear in the later series

Star Fleet are not the only people in other series. Would seem odd that there is jump drive aka hyperspace technology that evidently works. When 80-100 years on people are still using warp and investigating transwarp drives. Seems like it’s an idea from a different franchise and not Star Trek.

Nope! You would expect in any timeline that different forms of drive would be investigated. Some you will find are unworkable or cause damage to the environment so would be dropped on moral grounds.

Think of spore drive as the Star Trek equivalent of the wankel engine, it seemed like like a good idea at the time but was never universally adopted

[Vipers]

After watching this weeks episode, warp drive will never be the same, mind you the sat nav's a tad big.

[jmorgan]

I am trying to still like it, on the side of OK at the moment but a space ship powerd by magic mushrooms and a bed bug......

Edited by jmorgan on Wednesday 11th October 06:24

[Silverbullet767]

Jesus, some of the comments in here!

I was too young for the original Star Trek, I grew up watching TNG, didn't quite gel with DS9, and watched quite a few seasons of Voyager.

The recent Enterprise didn't grab me at all. But Discovery? I'm really enjoying it. Yes, the Klingon speech is a bit slow and annoying, but at least they're talking in their own language as they should. It's proper sci-fi. I'm enjoying the mainly single person perspective and story of this show. Sci-Fi for adults, not fanboys.

[james_tigerwoods]

One thing I did find painful, even if it's deliberate, was the Klingon speech: It seemed to be stunted and as if it was read word by word most of the time - It just didn't flow. I know they do speak in an aggressive manner, but it just didn't seem to seem natural which I thought it should be...

[gadgetmac]

Silverbullet767 said:

It's proper sci-fI...Sci-Fi for adults, not fanboys.

Exactly.

[jmorgan]

^^^^^
Doesn't mean I have to like it. Got me enough at the moment to keep going but more pew pew and less waffle waffle from the bone heads.

[Squadrone Rosso]

I’m enjoying it but wish they’d do away with the Klingon subtitles & just speak English.

[essayer]

So Starfleet are ok with slavery now? Interesting departure from the Roddenberry era

[Foliage]

essayer said:

So Starfleet are ok with slavery now? Interesting departure from the Roddenberry era

The captain doesn't care, the engineer just doesn't think like that and the crew fall in line, Michael on the other hand seems to see what you are seeing, I believe the ship is the first steps towards section 31 (the ships number is 1031) and that this story could turn into the story of how Michael redeems herself in the eyes of the admiralty, who better to mutineer than a mutineer?

[gadgetmac]

essayer said:

So Starfleet are ok with slavery now? Interesting departure from the Roddenberry era

Black Ops in a time of war. It happens.

America will tell you its the land of freedom from oppression but still indulges in Guantanemo type actions in a time of conflict.

I’m not sure there’s ever been a time when one of the world powers hasn’t had to put pragmatism before idealism in a crisis.

I don’t expect that to change in the next 400 years.

[telecat]

Like Enterprise there are lots of paths leading to where we expect Star Fleet to be when TOS begins. It does seem to be exploring the stories that will be filling in the Gaps. I have to agree the Klingons in there own language are really annoying. Still they invented the language so using it makes sense. It just slows down the story so much! The Discovery does seem to be a mix of the "disc based and the Olympic Medical ship so it does have "form", The Klingion Ships appear to be organic in a way others in the Start Trek universe are not. Perhaps after this they productionise the ships leading to more conventioanl looking ships.

[gadgetmac]

essayer said:

So Starfleet are ok with slavery now? Interesting departure from the Roddenberry era

Another response to this is that we use horses for essentially the same thing, transport.

Indeed Kirk and Picard rode horses together. Horses that would effectively be slaves. How is that different to what the captain of the discovery was doing? He harnessed a lower creature and ‘rode’ it.




Let the flaming begin

[LordGrover]

Ripper looked sad though.

[essayer]

It’s true, and there were navigating dolphins on NCC-1701-D too

We don’t (intentionally) cause pain to horses when we ride them though

[gadgetmac]

essayer said:

It’s true, and there were navigating dolphins on NCC-1701-D too

We don’t (intentionally) cause pain to horses when we ride them though

So spurs and whips aren’t causing pain or at least discomfort?

[Vipers]

gadgetmac said:

Silverbullet767 said:

It's proper sci-fI...Sci-Fi for adults, not fanboys.

Exactly.

Yep, if you dont like it, turn it off. I have seen just about all the Star Trek series from Kirk taking over from Pike, and throughly enjoyed each and every one.

[SpudLink]

This chap makes a good argument of how Discovery really does fit the Star Trek mold.

https://youtu.be/filkaXWGrPk

[Streetrod]

Spore drive explained:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-oIpBzNUcI