Star Trek: Discovery - New series on Netflix
Discussion
KrazyIvan said:
over all I thought it was good. Only real issue was I didn't really like the lead "Michael" thought she came off as a bit of a t
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I actually wondered if she was using the "logic" of Sarek and her Vulcan teaching when she said that they had to shoot the klingons, and when the rest of the crew werent doing it as its not Starfleets way, she got it in her mind that Logic was always right, but unlike a real Vulcan she didnt have the control to just leave it alone and instad her human emotions meant she went into a bit of a quiet rage that they have to be saved for their own good, as Vulcan Logic "couldnt be wrong"t!IYSWIM?
Some mild SPOILERS below:
Wasn't sure for the first half hour, really enjoying it at by the end and now I have seen episode 2 I'm hooked. Can't wait for episode three. From the teaser I think it is going to be more about the 'human' exploration of the situation the main character finds herself in and set the path to her redemption.
It's Star Trek, it's different, but it is Star Trek. Next Gen, DS9 etc. are old and familiar and comfortable. It will take time to become familiar with the new characters in Discovery and take time for them to develop. I hope the fans give it a chance and we don't end up with Stargate Universe, which was too gritty and different for the existing fans. I liked Stargate Universe and was disappointed when it was cancelled.
No problem with the modernisation of the bridge and ship interior. Who's to say that by the time of The Original Series, Starfleet decided that real buttons and screens were more effective and easier to use than projected displays and touch controls? There is a lot to be said for physical controls on devices that is relevant today!
Klingon spaceships are damn ugly though and I found the space combat a little too frantic, but I'm nitpicking now. We didn't get any real chance to admire the ships on screen, but hopefully that will change when we see Discovery. I like the long lingering beauty shots you got in the older films.
Wasn't sure for the first half hour, really enjoying it at by the end and now I have seen episode 2 I'm hooked. Can't wait for episode three. From the teaser I think it is going to be more about the 'human' exploration of the situation the main character finds herself in and set the path to her redemption.
It's Star Trek, it's different, but it is Star Trek. Next Gen, DS9 etc. are old and familiar and comfortable. It will take time to become familiar with the new characters in Discovery and take time for them to develop. I hope the fans give it a chance and we don't end up with Stargate Universe, which was too gritty and different for the existing fans. I liked Stargate Universe and was disappointed when it was cancelled.
No problem with the modernisation of the bridge and ship interior. Who's to say that by the time of The Original Series, Starfleet decided that real buttons and screens were more effective and easier to use than projected displays and touch controls? There is a lot to be said for physical controls on devices that is relevant today!
Klingon spaceships are damn ugly though and I found the space combat a little too frantic, but I'm nitpicking now. We didn't get any real chance to admire the ships on screen, but hopefully that will change when we see Discovery. I like the long lingering beauty shots you got in the older films.
AlexC1981 said:
page3 said:
Utterly terrible.
What a disappointment.
Why What a disappointment.
AlexC1981 said:
Why
Dull cliched plot.Unlikable characters with no chemistry.
Shocking production values - all lens flare and rotating cameras.
Bludgeoned political correctness.
It has turned Star Trek in to just another dark grim Sci-fi shoot-em-up.
I'm all for change, but this was just poor.
page3 said:
Dull cliched plot.
Unlikable characters with no chemistry.
Shocking production values - all lens flare and rotating cameras.
Bludgeoned political correctness.
It has turned Star Trek in to just another dark grim Sci-fi shoot-em-up.
I'm all for change, but this was just poor.
Disagree with that point, the production value is really top notch, its high quality cgi and a lot higher than any previous ST TV shows. lens flares arent the best but a lot less that JJ stuff.Unlikable characters with no chemistry.
Shocking production values - all lens flare and rotating cameras.
Bludgeoned political correctness.
It has turned Star Trek in to just another dark grim Sci-fi shoot-em-up.
I'm all for change, but this was just poor.
page3 said:
AlexC1981 said:
Why
Dull cliched plot.Unlikable characters with no chemistry.
Shocking production values - all lens flare and rotating cameras.
Bludgeoned political correctness.
It has turned Star Trek in to just another dark grim Sci-fi shoot-em-up.
I'm all for change, but this was just poor.
And what do you mean about political correctness, I hope you are not commenting on the fact that the two main characters were female?
Personnally I loved it. Yes, we a have a huge Star Trek legacy to deal with but do get a little bored with Trekkie know it alls who cant help but pick these things to pieces if they feel the cannon has been altered in any way. Do we still expect Klingons to look like they did in the original series? I think not
Undecided at the moment, am still worried it will go the way of Stargate Universe. A dark gritty step away from a usually positive series with no obviously likable characters.
Apparently E3 is set a while after E2 so hoping it will settle in.
My biggest nerd bugbear is still the obsession with prequel style shows, Why not have something set after DS9/VOY?
Apparently E3 is set a while after E2 so hoping it will settle in.
My biggest nerd bugbear is still the obsession with prequel style shows, Why not have something set after DS9/VOY?
gadgetmac said:
page3 said:
Shocking production values.
Could not disagree more - we're clearly watching different shows.Streetrod said:
page3 said:
AlexC1981 said:
Why
Dull cliched plot.Unlikable characters with no chemistry.
Shocking production values - all lens flare and rotating cameras.
Bludgeoned political correctness.
It has turned Star Trek in to just another dark grim Sci-fi shoot-em-up.
I'm all for change, but this was just poor.
And what do you mean about political correctness, I hope you are not commenting on the fact that the two main characters were female?
Personnally I loved it. Yes, we a have a huge Star Trek legacy to deal with but do get a little bored with Trekkie know it alls who cant help but pick these things to pieces if they feel the cannon has been altered in any way. Do we still expect Klingons to look like they did in the original series? I think not
The PC wasn’t the fact two women were in charge, after all that’s nothing new to Trek. It was that we had to told in a somewhat bludgened way.
And no, I like change. The Klingons for example I though were interestingly done.
We’ll see what episode 3 brings, but I won’t go much further unless it improves dramatically.
Edited by page3 on Tuesday 26th September 07:52
sorry I am not trying to be argumentative here but "bludgeoned"!!. How would you have introduced the two main characters who just happened to be female?
They set up the fact that that had a close relationship which was both casual and respectful of rank. They then gave us some relevant backstory to Michaels upbringing which would then explain her actions later on and the internal conflict she had. This I feel was nicely paced within the first two shows. We also see that there are severe consequences to her actions which were right and proper. Again well done I say. We may just have to agree to disagree on this one.
Compared to the first episodes of other star trek shows I feel this started a lot better than the others. Let's not forget how uncomfortable and clunky the first few shows of the Next Generation, Voyager and Enterprise were
They set up the fact that that had a close relationship which was both casual and respectful of rank. They then gave us some relevant backstory to Michaels upbringing which would then explain her actions later on and the internal conflict she had. This I feel was nicely paced within the first two shows. We also see that there are severe consequences to her actions which were right and proper. Again well done I say. We may just have to agree to disagree on this one.
Compared to the first episodes of other star trek shows I feel this started a lot better than the others. Let's not forget how uncomfortable and clunky the first few shows of the Next Generation, Voyager and Enterprise were
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