BBC to Reveal Stars Earnings

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ClaphamGT3

11,300 posts

243 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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cuprabob said:
Not-The-Messiah said:
So am I correct in thinking that Chris Evans and Gary Linker are the highest paid public sector workers in the country? And not just by a small margin.

More that a 100 nurses working god knows how may hours a year. Far more than top NHS surgeons. And many more times the PM and anyone responsible for negotiating brexit. The most important negotiation in living memory that will directly affected everyone.

What a joke.
Indeed, but on the plus side at least the highest paid actor plays a Nurse.

I believe some of the people in charge of our hard pressed councils will earn a lot more than the PM.
If I recall correctly, the highest paid Local Authority Chief Exec in the U.K. Is Paul Martin at LB Wandsworth, on £238k pa. Less than £100k more than the PM's ludicrous and artificially low salary and still hardly a champagne charlie income

Eddie Strohacker

3,879 posts

86 months

Wednesday 19th July 2017
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Not-The-Messiah said:
So am I correct in thinking that Chris Evans and Gary Linker are the highest paid public sector workers in the country? And not just by a small margin.

More that a 100 nurses working god knows how may hours a year. Far more than top NHS surgeons. And many more times the PM and anyone responsible for negotiating brexit. The most important negotiation in living memory that will directly affected everyone.

What a joke.
Nope, they're two people employed in a free market by a public corporation spending 0.25% of its revenue on about 43,00 talent contracts. Peanuts in the scheme of things, catnip to an unfortunate section of society.

chow pan toon

12,387 posts

237 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Mojooo said:
chow pan toon said:
Mojooo said:
300k max for any of them - a good wage in London
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/corbyn-bbc-salaries-cut-gary-lineker-chris-evans-slash-labour-win-a7849696.html

Corbyn wants them limited to 320k. Funny how it isn't the politics of envy when PH agrees with the targets.
People turn their noses up at Chief Executives of councils earning 150-200k - yet they are responsible for possibly thousands of employees and hundreds of services affecting possibly millions of people. I don't see how being a news presenter is in any way comparable.

I don't have a problem with the private sector profits in the same way as I am not forced to consume (the majority) of private sector products.

Also the BBC is large enough to train and churn people for these types of headlining roles.
Do you have a similarly exact figure for how much anyone is allowed to earn or is it just the BBC subject to your arbitrary wage cap?

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

252 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Not having paid a tv licence in a few years I wasnt even sure who half of this lot are!

BlueHave

4,651 posts

108 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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I had no idea The One Show was such a cushy number.

£400k for Alex Jones and £500k for Matt Baker, i'm in the wrong profession.

Do the BBC consider regional accents in their positive discrimination strategy. Plenty of plummy Londoners could present it but they went for a farm boy from Durham who gets excited by a rare newt and a thick Welsh lady.

briang9

3,280 posts

160 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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A205GTI said:
However 9 pages and no one has mention Vanessa Feltz's Wage I mean really does anyone listen to her or like her!!?
She needs a lot of money for food I believe!!

Edited by briang9 on Thursday 20th July 00:49


Edited by briang9 on Thursday 20th July 01:01

cuprabob

14,627 posts

214 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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briang9 said:
A205GTI said:
However 9 pages and no one has mention Vanessa Feltz's Wage I mean really does anyone listen to her or like her!!?
She needs a lot of money for food I believe!!

Edited by briang9 on Thursday 20th July 00:49
Indeed, plus Phats and Small aren't what they used to be...

Mojooo

12,720 posts

180 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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chow pan toon said:
Mojooo said:
chow pan toon said:
Mojooo said:
300k max for any of them - a good wage in London
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/corbyn-bbc-salaries-cut-gary-lineker-chris-evans-slash-labour-win-a7849696.html

Corbyn wants them limited to 320k. Funny how it isn't the politics of envy when PH agrees with the targets.
People turn their noses up at Chief Executives of councils earning 150-200k - yet they are responsible for possibly thousands of employees and hundreds of services affecting possibly millions of people. I don't see how being a news presenter is in any way comparable.

I don't have a problem with the private sector profits in the same way as I am not forced to consume (the majority) of private sector products.

Also the BBC is large enough to train and churn people for these types of headlining roles.
Do you have a similarly exact figure for how much anyone is allowed to earn or is it just the BBC subject to your arbitrary wage cap?
300k is sufficient for anyone in local government and talent at the BBC.


I don't buy the talent being worth that much argument in this particular scenario.

MiniMan64

16,926 posts

190 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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News readers talking about BBC wages on ITV news.

Come on then ladies, what are ITV paying you?!!

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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BlueHave said:
Do the BBC consider regional accents in their positive discrimination strategy. Plenty of plummy Londoners could present it but they went for a farm boy from Durham who gets excited by a rare newt and a thick Welsh lady.
It's called diversity!!
Once upon a time the BBC employed the best person for the job now it goes on the basis of your accent.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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He's got a good face for radio.

wiggy001

6,545 posts

271 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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The licence fee is pennies really. I don't mind the huge salaries so much but I'd be more interested in seeing how much they each earn per hour and maybe per viewer/listener.

Chris Evans in on about £3k per (broadcast) hour, the bloke in Casualty gets £8k whilst Doctor Who gets over £27k!

ambuletz

10,735 posts

181 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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wiggy001 said:


Chris Evans in on about £3k per (broadcast) hour, the bloke in Casualty gets £8k whilst Doctor Who gets over £27k!
but then its a question of how much do they spend time actually working, clocked in and clocked out. the actors will spend much longer working per episode. does evans only do the radio? 3hours a day? how long is he at work before/after that time? and the newsreaders on £500k, what's their daily shift like?

Challo

10,146 posts

155 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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AJL308 said:
Challo said:
The issue is that we do not what ITV, Sky, Channel4 are paying their presenters, newsreaders, etc to see if the BBC are a lot cheaper than anyone else.

I don't have an issue with the salaries. I think in most cases we get pretty goood value for money out of the BBC for that licence fee.
You honestly and genuinely have no issue with someone getting paid £700k+ a year at public expense to talk to people on the telephone for a couple of hours a day, five days a week? Really? Seriously?
I do agree that potentially some of them might not be true value for money, but we do not know the in's and out of there contract and what they are contracted to do for the BBC. This is a very subjective topic as well because people will hate the presenter/host and think they are rubbish, but others will love them and think they are great for the show. Its a balancing at to make sure the majority are entertained.

People demand the BBC provide entertaining programmes but are not willing to pay for that. So you would be happy just to employ presenters directly from university for peanuts?? No doubt your be on here moaning that the actor is wooden, the presenter is wooden, the program is boring.


superlightr

12,856 posts

263 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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as a few others have said - look at what the PM earns, other chief exc of councils - that should be the max anyone should earn as a state employee surely?

I don't buy that news readers are worth £500k etc. They are employees not 'Talent' as are sound engineers and cameramen etc.

hyphen

26,262 posts

90 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Raygun said:
BlueHave said:
Do the BBC consider regional accents in their positive discrimination strategy. Plenty of plummy Londoners could present it but they went for a farm boy from Durham who gets excited by a rare newt and a thick Welsh lady.
It's called diversity!!
Once upon a time the BBC employed the best person for the job now it goes on the basis of your accent.
That overly heavily welsh accented newsreader on Radio 1 springs to mind.

98elise

26,601 posts

161 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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ambuletz said:
wiggy001 said:


Chris Evans in on about £3k per (broadcast) hour, the bloke in Casualty gets £8k whilst Doctor Who gets over £27k!
but then its a question of how much do they spend time actually working, clocked in and clocked out. the actors will spend much longer working per episode. does evans only do the radio? 3hours a day? how long is he at work before/after that time? and the newsreaders on £500k, what's their daily shift like?
Chris gets in for the show start, not hours earlier. He regularly comments on the time he gets up, and he has been late a few times when travel has been bad. Its not surprising when you have a early morning show.

He also regularly comments about what he does with he rest of the day once he's finished the show, so he's not sticking around for hours afterwards every day. I'm sure he does do more then the set show, but its not much more it seems.

My take on this is that they should pay whatever it takes to get the right people in, however they do not need to chase ratings, so salaries int he millions should not be on offer. If the Radio 2 breakfast show loses a few viewers does it really matter. If the job was paid about 200k do you think they wouldn't be able to fill it with a decent presenter?

This is especially true of new readers. They read stuff out. Quite often they ask particularly stupid questions that I would expect someone in News and Current affairs to have some grasp of. I remember when the presenters went on strike, and they managed to rustle up perfectly decent presenters at the drop of a hat. how much are those presenters on.

Again why do they need to pay 400k for someone to read stuff out. There are very few news reading jobs in the country, and is it such a small pool of people competent to do it that they command half a million quid a year to do it? They don't rely on viewers for money, so no need to pay big salaries for "talent". If anything it would be better that news presenters were "under paid" so that they would move on every few years and make way for the BBC bring in new talent.


Halmyre

11,199 posts

139 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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98elise said:
Chris gets in for the show start, not hours earlier. He regularly comments on the time he gets up, and he has been late a few times when travel has been bad. Its not surprising when you have a early morning show.

He also regularly comments about what he does with he rest of the day once he's finished the show, so he's not sticking around for hours afterwards every day. I'm sure he does do more then the set show, but its not much more it seems.

My take on this is that they should pay whatever it takes to get the right people in, however they do not need to chase ratings, so salaries int he millions should not be on offer. If the Radio 2 breakfast show loses a few viewers does it really matter. If the job was paid about 200k do you think they wouldn't be able to fill it with a decent presenter?

This is especially true of new readers. They read stuff out. Quite often they ask particularly stupid questions that I would expect someone in News and Current affairs to have some grasp of. I remember when the presenters went on strike, and they managed to rustle up perfectly decent presenters at the drop of a hat. how much are those presenters on.

Again why do they need to pay 400k for someone to read stuff out. There are very few news reading jobs in the country, and is it such a small pool of people competent to do it that they command half a million quid a year to do it? They don't rely on viewers for money, so no need to pay big salaries for "talent". If anything it would be better that news presenters were "under paid" so that they would move on every few years and make way for the BBC bring in new talent.
BBC newsreaders used to point out, rather snippily, that they didn't just read the news items, they wrote them as well, and referred to themselves as 'newscasters' instead of 'newsreaders'. I don't know if this is still the case.

Regarding Evans' timekeeping woes, would that all employers were as understanding of the vagaries of travel to work.

"Sorry I'm late, badger chewed through a signal cable at Effingham Junction"
"Late again? You're fired."



TwigtheWonderkid

43,370 posts

150 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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55palfers said:
Mr-B said:
Dazed and Confused said:
Somehow I doubt news readers are particularly close to the top of the pile.
I think I remember it being reported that Sophie Raworth gets about £150k a year, dunno why I remembered that or where I heard it but there you go, odd what the brain recalls at times!
£150,000.00 a year for reading an autocue and putting on a bit of slap?

I don't think most people give a toss over who "presents" the news.

Get someone else in for a fraction of the cost. Maybe put the post out to competitive tendering?
I suspect reading the news, knowing millions are watching, is a very high pressured job. Especially when things go wrong, a VT fails etc, and they have to wing it.

I'd love to see you do it, you'd probably get tongue tied saying "Good Evening" , panic and then p1ss yourself live on air.

The Surveyor

7,576 posts

237 months

Thursday 20th July 2017
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Halmyre said:
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Regarding Evans' timekeeping woes, would that all employers were as understanding of the vagaries of travel to work.

"Sorry I'm late, badger chewed through a signal cable at Effingham Junction"
"Late again? You're fired."
That's the difference between being replaceable or not.