BBC to Reveal Stars Earnings
Discussion
The Surveyor said:
Halmyre said:
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Regarding Evans' timekeeping woes, would that all employers were as understanding of the vagaries of travel to work.
"Sorry I'm late, badger chewed through a signal cable at Effingham Junction"
"Late again? You're fired."
That's the difference between being replaceable or not. Regarding Evans' timekeeping woes, would that all employers were as understanding of the vagaries of travel to work.
"Sorry I'm late, badger chewed through a signal cable at Effingham Junction"
"Late again? You're fired."
Why are these threads always full of the same people telling us how great he is? A lot of people disagree.I'd f
king love it if Danny Baker took over. Richard Bacon too. Johnny Vaughan even. The man who made the Big Breakfast watchable.What exactly has Evans ever done that WAS any good?
Dazed and Confused said:
The Surveyor said:
Halmyre said:
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Regarding Evans' timekeeping woes, would that all employers were as understanding of the vagaries of travel to work.
"Sorry I'm late, badger chewed through a signal cable at Effingham Junction"
"Late again? You're fired."
That's the difference between being replaceable or not. Regarding Evans' timekeeping woes, would that all employers were as understanding of the vagaries of travel to work.
"Sorry I'm late, badger chewed through a signal cable at Effingham Junction"
"Late again? You're fired."
Why are these threads always full of the same people telling us how great he is? A lot of people disagree.I'd f
king love it if Danny Baker took over. Richard Bacon too. Johnny Vaughan even. The man who made the Big Breakfast watchable.What exactly has Evans ever done that WAS any good?
A205GTI said:
lets be honest we watch/listen to them because they are good, just look at the talent on your locally made shows and you realize how hard it can be to come across as likable.
Quite.Also, a problem is investing in young talent, and the talent they do invest in, they are all the same cookie cutter.
It's part of the reason why David Attenborough hasn't been replaced. The stars of yesteryear, are more watchable than the stars being thrown up in the past 10-15 years.
On his salary I assume Huw Edwards is in the news office for 6 or 7 hours a day and has a hand in writing his script rather than merely rocking up and reading an autocue. Otherwise is he such a big draw for viewers to justify his pay?
I think part of the BBC remit should be to train up new "talent"; I don't see these camera-facing roles advertised anywhere but I'm sure if they were, there would be plenty of young, capable and inexpensive potentials ready to try for it.
I think part of the BBC remit should be to train up new "talent"; I don't see these camera-facing roles advertised anywhere but I'm sure if they were, there would be plenty of young, capable and inexpensive potentials ready to try for it.
Sky is four times more expensive and is full of adverts and crap programming. Sky is perfect example of the failure of the private sector and the BBC is great example of the superiority of the public, a superior 'product' at a lower cost. The only thing wrong with the BBC is that it is too weak to resist the pressure from the extreme right wing agenda of this corrupt government. Ministers that laughs it off when caught out lying and accepting bribes.
CEO should be highly paid to motivate them, the right wing mantra says, but 'strangely it is never explained why this doesn't apply to anybody else, workers, the NHS, the BBC, etc. Well not strange at all, just a reflection of right wing double think and hypocrisy.
I love the fact Jiffy (Jonathan Davies) is paid more than a number of the players he occasionally mumbles something incoherent about .
Avg salaries in the english rugby premiership will be c £70-80k/year, even the avg salary for a Welsh dual contract international is probably c £150k. There are only 16 dual contract players in the Welsh national squad.....amazing
MoTD paying Linekar that much is hilarious - just give Gabby the job for a round £1m - tbh give her the job for the same money
Edit to add: I was surprised that Graham Norton was so low, until I saw that his chat show is independently produced, so I'd guess he will get quite a few million for that, which given the stars he gets and they global audience is a far commercial deal.
The money for the news readers and most of the politicos is a little harder to stomach - although I'd be happy for them to treble Andrew Neil and have him as the BBCs face to politicians, he at least seems to be reasonable impartial and give everyone a shoeing
Avg salaries in the english rugby premiership will be c £70-80k/year, even the avg salary for a Welsh dual contract international is probably c £150k. There are only 16 dual contract players in the Welsh national squad.....amazing
MoTD paying Linekar that much is hilarious - just give Gabby the job for a round £1m - tbh give her the job for the same money
Edit to add: I was surprised that Graham Norton was so low, until I saw that his chat show is independently produced, so I'd guess he will get quite a few million for that, which given the stars he gets and they global audience is a far commercial deal.
The money for the news readers and most of the politicos is a little harder to stomach - although I'd be happy for them to treble Andrew Neil and have him as the BBCs face to politicians, he at least seems to be reasonable impartial and give everyone a shoeing
Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 20th July 11:33
I cannot understand why people are complaining about certain on-air talent getting paid X or Y. For example, Feltz or Vine or Winkleman on their wages being a rip off because they're talentless and give no benefit to anyone. Can you not see that literally millions of people really, really like these folks and what they do? That they're providing entertainment to many, and that the viewers/listeners of the programmes really wouldn't want any one else doing the same regardless if they could or not? Top Gear being the prime example here, but wait for the new Bake Off to be equally hated too.
I get that you may think salaries as a whole are overpaid in a particular sector, but singling out individual talent is just daft. I don't care for Winkleman in the slightest, but she hosts the most popular talent show* in the UK that is regularly getting 10M+ people watching a week so who am I to say that someone else should do it for less? Again, I've no interest in the show so would be unlikely to watch regardless of who is presenting, but that doesn't mean I think it should be taken off the air.
I get that you may think salaries as a whole are overpaid in a particular sector, but singling out individual talent is just daft. I don't care for Winkleman in the slightest, but she hosts the most popular talent show* in the UK that is regularly getting 10M+ people watching a week so who am I to say that someone else should do it for less? Again, I've no interest in the show so would be unlikely to watch regardless of who is presenting, but that doesn't mean I think it should be taken off the air.
Eddie Strohacker said:
Not-The-Messiah said:
So am I correct in thinking that Chris Evans and Gary Linker are the highest paid public sector workers in the country? And not just by a small margin.
More that a 100 nurses working god knows how may hours a year. Far more than top NHS surgeons. And many more times the PM and anyone responsible for negotiating brexit. The most important negotiation in living memory that will directly affected everyone.
What a joke.
Nope, they're two people employed in a free market by a public corporation spending 0.25% of its revenue on about 43,00 talent contracts. Peanuts in the scheme of things, catnip to an unfortunate section of society.More that a 100 nurses working god knows how may hours a year. Far more than top NHS surgeons. And many more times the PM and anyone responsible for negotiating brexit. The most important negotiation in living memory that will directly affected everyone.
What a joke.
It cannot have that attitude yet claim to be subject to market forces whenever it suits it. If it were subject to the free market it not be a legal requirement for everyone who wishes to use the services of its competitors to pay it a fee (tax) simply for using privately owned equipment.
Eddie Strohacker said:
Not-The-Messiah said:
So am I correct in thinking that Chris Evans and Gary Linker are the highest paid public sector workers in the country? And not just by a small margin.
More that a 100 nurses working god knows how may hours a year. Far more than top NHS surgeons. And many more times the PM and anyone responsible for negotiating brexit. The most important negotiation in living memory that will directly affected everyone.
What a joke.
Nope, they're two people employed in a free market by a public corporation spending 0.25% of its revenue on about 43,00 talent contracts. Peanuts in the scheme of things, catnip to an unfortunate section of society.More that a 100 nurses working god knows how may hours a year. Far more than top NHS surgeons. And many more times the PM and anyone responsible for negotiating brexit. The most important negotiation in living memory that will directly affected everyone.
What a joke.
Free market indeed!
AJL308 said:
Nope, sorry, that doesn't wash. The BBC is not part of the "free market", doesn't wish to be and constantly harps on about being "unique".
It cannot have that attitude yet claim to be subject to market forces whenever it suits it. If it were subject to the free market it not be a legal requirement for everyone who wishes to use the services of its competitors to pay it a fee (tax) simply for using privately owned equipment.
You're confusing two separate issues, it's talent & it's funding. I agree it has an obligation to use its money as efficiently as possible since it's publicly funded but even that is no different from any private enterprise which places a legal duty on directors to act in the best interest of the company - really no difference at all.It cannot have that attitude yet claim to be subject to market forces whenever it suits it. If it were subject to the free market it not be a legal requirement for everyone who wishes to use the services of its competitors to pay it a fee (tax) simply for using privately owned equipment.
However, the talent is not the organisation. They are free agents within a market, to hawk their wares to whomever they choose. If their employer is private or publicly owned is neither here nor there.
hyphen said:
If it were a free market, BBC would not need Lineker or most of Radio 5 Live. The BBC outbid TalkSport/tv channels for Sports rights as commercial companies need to actually undertake a cost-benefit behind their maximum price....
Free market indeed!
Same. The presenters aren't the executives. Why is this so difficult to understand for some of you?Free market indeed!
Challo said:
AJL308 said:
Challo said:
The issue is that we do not what ITV, Sky, Channel4 are paying their presenters, newsreaders, etc to see if the BBC are a lot cheaper than anyone else.
I don't have an issue with the salaries. I think in most cases we get pretty goood value for money out of the BBC for that licence fee.
You honestly and genuinely have no issue with someone getting paid £700k+ a year at public expense to talk to people on the telephone for a couple of hours a day, five days a week? Really? Seriously?I don't have an issue with the salaries. I think in most cases we get pretty goood value for money out of the BBC for that licence fee.
People demand the BBC provide entertaining programmes but are not willing to pay for that. So you would be happy just to employ presenters directly from university for peanuts?? No doubt your be on here moaning that the actor is wooden, the presenter is wooden, the program is boring.
How on earth can you honestly justify that? I know a DJ chap who's loves the sound of his own voice and could do just as good a job as JV. If he said, "well, I'll do Vine's job for £150k" and he does the job as well as to within 95% as good as JV then how can you sensibly make the argument that JV is worth £550K more? If the BBC were a private employer they can pay what they like to whomever they like. They aren't though and JV is a public servant employed at public expense.
It's obscene, quite frankly.
Edited by AJL308 on Thursday 20th July 11:53
wsurfa said:
I love the fact Jiffy (Jonathan Davies) is paid more than a number of the players he occasionally mumbles something incoherent about .
Avg salaries in the english rugby premiership will be c £70-80k/year, even the avg salary for a Welsh dual contract international is probably c £150k. There are only 16 dual contract players in the Welsh national squad.....amazing
Hardly.Avg salaries in the english rugby premiership will be c £70-80k/year, even the avg salary for a Welsh dual contract international is probably c £150k. There are only 16 dual contract players in the Welsh national squad.....amazing
The salary cap for 2016-17 is/was £6.5 million. Divide that by a squad of 35? Two excluded players makes for an average of £190,000 odd.
Disagree?
BBC pay list: the hidden names the corporation does not want you to see
Telegraph said:
Graham Norton’s stated earnings of £850,000-£899,999 make him the third highest-paid star on the list, but they cover only his work on Radio 2, Eurovision and the BBC One Saturday night show Let It Shine.
His main entertainment programme, The Graham Norton Show, is made by his own production company, So Television, and the money he earns from that is not covered in the BBC report.
...Independently-made shows include Question Time, The Apprentice, University Challenge and MasterChef, meaning the salaries of David Dimbleby, Lord Sugar, Jeremy Paxman, John Torode and Gregg Wallace do not appear in the published accounts.
The situation will become more opaque in the 2017/18 accounts because the corporation’s in-house production unit, BBC Studios, became an independent commercial entity at the beginning of this tax year
As a result, programmes it makes - including Strictly Come Dancing, Casualty and A Question of Sport - will be classed as independent productions, and the salaries will not be disclosed
His main entertainment programme, The Graham Norton Show, is made by his own production company, So Television, and the money he earns from that is not covered in the BBC report.
...Independently-made shows include Question Time, The Apprentice, University Challenge and MasterChef, meaning the salaries of David Dimbleby, Lord Sugar, Jeremy Paxman, John Torode and Gregg Wallace do not appear in the published accounts.
The situation will become more opaque in the 2017/18 accounts because the corporation’s in-house production unit, BBC Studios, became an independent commercial entity at the beginning of this tax year
As a result, programmes it makes - including Strictly Come Dancing, Casualty and A Question of Sport - will be classed as independent productions, and the salaries will not be disclosed
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