BBC to Reveal Stars Earnings
Discussion
The Mad Monk said:
wsurfa said:
I love the fact Jiffy (Jonathan Davies) is paid more than a number of the players he occasionally mumbles something incoherent about .
Avg salaries in the english rugby premiership will be c £70-80k/year, even the avg salary for a Welsh dual contract international is probably c £150k. There are only 16 dual contract players in the Welsh national squad.....amazing
Hardly.Avg salaries in the english rugby premiership will be c £70-80k/year, even the avg salary for a Welsh dual contract international is probably c £150k. There are only 16 dual contract players in the Welsh national squad.....amazing
The salary cap for 2016-17 is/was £6.5 million. Divide that by a squad of 35? Two excluded players makes for an average of £190,000 odd.
Disagree?
Halb said:
I think that pay at the beeb should be capped, and if the talent doesn't like it, there are options to move to.
OK so let's follow that through. Pay gets capped at the BBC. The really good people realise that they can earn more money for their talents elsewhere, so they move on. Leaving the less good people. "Oh, this is rubbish, that's rubbish, the BBC isn't as good as it used to be" say the viewers and listeners. And they start going elsewhere too. "Hmm this channel doesn't have as big an audience as it used to" says the Government. "We'll have to cut your funding because you are not providing the public service you should be". Rinse and repeat. Eventually - bye bye BBC.The Beeb already pays less than their commercial rivals and only spends a tiny percentage of it's income on salaries. A wage cap is the last thing it needs.
48k said:
Halb said:
I think that pay at the beeb should be capped, and if the talent doesn't like it, there are options to move to.
OK so let's follow that through. Pay gets capped at the BBC. The really good people realise that they can earn more money for their talents elsewhere, so they move on. Leaving the less good people. "Oh, this is rubbish, that's rubbish, the BBC isn't as good as it used to be" say the viewers and listeners. And they start going elsewhere too. "Hmm this channel doesn't have as big an audience as it used to" says the Government. "We'll have to cut your funding because you are not providing the public service you should be". Rinse and repeat. Eventually - bye bye BBC.The Beeb already pays less than their commercial rivals and only spends a tiny percentage of it's income on salaries. A wage cap is the last thing it needs.
There are 65,000,000 people in the UK. Im sure there are more than 1 "really good people" availabe to do each job.
It is the job the of the execs and producers of each show on the BBC to have contingency plans in place and to be on the lookout at all times for new talent with a short list in mind.
hyphen said:
When Des Lynam left, he was replaced with Lineker. When Lineker leave he will be replaced too.
There are 65,000,000 people in the UK. Im sure there are more than 1 "really good people" availabe to do each job.
It is the job the of the execs and producers of each show on the BBC to have contingency plans in place and to be on the lookout at all times for new talent with a short list in mind.
Hang on...There are 65,000,000 people in the UK. Im sure there are more than 1 "really good people" availabe to do each job.
It is the job the of the execs and producers of each show on the BBC to have contingency plans in place and to be on the lookout at all times for new talent with a short list in mind.
hyphen said:
If it were a free market, BBC would not need Lineker or most of Radio 5 Live. The BBC outbid TalkSport/tv channels for Football highlights and other sports rights as commercial companies need to actually undertake a cost-benefit behind their maximum price....
Free market indeed!
So for the talent it IS a free market or not? Make your mind up!Free market indeed!
hyphen said:
That overly heavily welsh accented newsreader on Radio 1 springs to mind.
Absolutely, no doubt he is a nice bloke but his voice combined with the dumbed down R1 news makes him very very annoying.In fact a lot of the R1 presenters dont appear all that bright nor offer a particularly varied vocabulary, it's all become "like, you know, lols an bants.
aka_kerrly said:
Absolutely, no doubt he is a nice bloke but his voice combined with the dumbed down R1 news makes him very very annoying.
In fact a lot of the R1 presenters dont appear all that bright nor offer a particularly varied vocabulary, it's all become "like, you know, lols an bants.
I'm just guessing, but you might be outside of the Radio 1 target demographic.In fact a lot of the R1 presenters dont appear all that bright nor offer a particularly varied vocabulary, it's all become "like, you know, lols an bants.
Eddie Strohacker said:
market or not? Make your mind up!
Those are two different points.The BBC is taking the easy route in its hiring:
"Linekar's agents is demanding this much or he is moving to Sky"
"Well If I get his replacement wrong, I could get the sack, just give it to him"
Whereas in a private company it would be:
"Linekar's agents is demanding this much or he is moving to Sky"
"Well we pay x amount for tv rights, Y amount made in advertising, feedback suggests x amount of viewers could be lost in the short term..."
Take for example Jonathan Ross, he was paid a shed loads, and his gravy train only ended when the voicemail stuff happened. Before that the BBC would never have let him go, would have kept agreeing to paying him a ton.
When they were forced to do so, what happened? nothing Norton took over as the Guests tend to make the show. When Norton stated demanding a million a few years ago, they had plenty of options to replace him too- Corden for example.
There is no 'amazingly talented irreplaceable tv presenter' in my mind, and it is the jobs of the execs to know all the up and coming talent/be developing staff in house.
Dazed and Confused said:
227bhp said:
Dazed and Confused said:
Bye bye Chris Evans.
How does that work? Do you think the BBC didn't know how much he was getting before the list was published? hyphen said:
There is no 'amazingly talented irreplaceable tv presenter' in my mind, and it is the jobs of the execs to know all the up and coming talent/be developing staff in house.
Yes, which outside of sentimentality for Auntie, will go where the best jobs are, as pretty much anyone, anywhere with half a brain does, thus creating a free market which finds it's own level, irrespective of how puce the remuneration of which may turn the faces of the Beeb haterz.It's a market, make your peace with it dude.
48k said:
Mojooo said:
Much as I like Huw Edwards - 550k for doing the news? Fark.
No. 550k for:- being the main presenter of the Ten O'Clock News on BBC One, considered the corporation's flagship news broadcast and the most watched news programme in Britain.
- presenting the BBC News at Five O'Clock on the 24-hour BBC News channel
- presenting programmes such as the Festival of Remembrance, Trooping the Colour, the State Opening of Parliament, General Election special and the referendum special
- contributing to Breakfast News, One O'Clock News, Newsnight and Panorama
- presenting documentaries on classical music, religion and Welsh history, including presenting in Welsh since he is a native Welsh speaker,
He is a senior bi-lingual news journalist at the BBC and a trusted anchor for many of the flagship programmes and special events coverage. He's not just some vacuous braindead chap reading an autocue a couple of times a day.
Mojooo said:
You could probably find 2000 decent people willing to do it for 150k let alone 300k.
You won't find 2000 people the BBC would trust to do all of the above.I have never seen anything quite as biased and one sided as that programme.
No mention that the Welsh had a (obviously completely unjustified) reputation in the Middle Ages for crossing the border and stealing English cattle.
Nor any mention that The Welsh gave an expression "To Welsh" meaning to renege on an agreement to the English language. This allegation is, of course, false and completely erroneous.
Dazed and Confused said:
227bhp said:
Dazed and Confused said:
Bye bye Chris Evans.
How does that work? Do you think the BBC didn't know how much he was getting before the list was published? The Mad Monk said:
Huw Edwards presented a so-called documentary on Wales and the Welsh a little back.
I have never seen anything quite as biased and one sided as that programme.
No mention that the Welsh had a (obviously completely unjustified) reputation in the Middle Ages for crossing the border and stealing English cattle.
Nor any mention that The Welsh gave an expression "To Welsh" meaning to renege on an agreement to the English language. This allegation is, of course, false and completely erroneous.
Mate. You're bearing a grudge against the Taffs from 11 centuries ago? That's hardcore.I have never seen anything quite as biased and one sided as that programme.
No mention that the Welsh had a (obviously completely unjustified) reputation in the Middle Ages for crossing the border and stealing English cattle.
Nor any mention that The Welsh gave an expression "To Welsh" meaning to renege on an agreement to the English language. This allegation is, of course, false and completely erroneous.
AJL308 said:
The Mad Monk said:
wsurfa said:
I love the fact Jiffy (Jonathan Davies) is paid more than a number of the players he occasionally mumbles something incoherent about .
Avg salaries in the english rugby premiership will be c £70-80k/year, even the avg salary for a Welsh dual contract international is probably c £150k. There are only 16 dual contract players in the Welsh national squad.....amazing
Hardly.Avg salaries in the english rugby premiership will be c £70-80k/year, even the avg salary for a Welsh dual contract international is probably c £150k. There are only 16 dual contract players in the Welsh national squad.....amazing
The salary cap for 2016-17 is/was £6.5 million. Divide that by a squad of 35? Two excluded players makes for an average of £190,000 odd.
Disagree?
Eddie Strohacker said:
hyphen said:
There is no 'amazingly talented irreplaceable tv presenter' in my mind, and it is the jobs of the execs to know all the up and coming talent/be developing staff in house.
Yes, which outside of sentimentality for Auntie, will go where the best jobs are, as pretty much anyone, anywhere with half a brain does, thus creating a free market which finds it's own level, irrespective of how puce the remuneration of which may turn the faces of the Beeb haterz.It's a market, make your peace with it dude.
"Make your peace with it dude" yourself
Challo said:
Dazed and Confused said:
The Surveyor said:
Halmyre said:
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Regarding Evans' timekeeping woes, would that all employers were as understanding of the vagaries of travel to work.
"Sorry I'm late, badger chewed through a signal cable at Effingham Junction"
"Late again? You're fired."
That's the difference between being replaceable or not. Regarding Evans' timekeeping woes, would that all employers were as understanding of the vagaries of travel to work.
"Sorry I'm late, badger chewed through a signal cable at Effingham Junction"
"Late again? You're fired."
Why are these threads always full of the same people telling us how great he is? A lot of people disagree.I'd f
king love it if Danny Baker took over. Richard Bacon too. Johnny Vaughan even. The man who made the Big Breakfast watchable.What exactly has Evans ever done that WAS any good?
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Dazed and Confused said:
What exactly has Evans ever done that WAS any good?
Regardless of you liking him or not, do you seriously think various organisations (not just the BBC) have paid him fortunes for 20 odd years because he's rubbish at what he does?Get a grip.
But apart from that, he does nothing.
ETA: Disclaimer to say that I'm not personally his biggest fan, but you'd have to be an utter simpleton to think that's he's not successful at what he does.
Jimboka said:
nikaiyo2 said:
How is Alan Yentob on £200-£250k per year, as a presenter? WTF does he actually present?
He works damned hard:-The BBC last night said Mr Yentob was paid for presenting and producing 12 episodes of Imagine last year, and that this involved a large amount of “research” for the show.
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