The Walking Dead Season 8

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FourWheelDrift

88,631 posts

285 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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joema said:
James 33 said:
At least Jadis won't be short of dog food for a while! vomit
What happened to her voice when talking to Rick, she started to talk normally!
Wanted Rick to ask Negan why he killed everyone at the junk yard when he was saying how he saves people. Would have dropped Simon right in it.
I was waiting for that. But that would mean there would be some sort of tension.
He's too stupid to think of that.

He could if he wasn't so stupid then blame Simon for everything, by suggesting he was always playing Negan off against Rick to get rid of him, or both. It all started at the Hilltop (telling Rick about the saviours and the subsequent attack on the satellite station). The Hilltop was Simon's plaything the satellite station group was Simon's group.

He could have immediately got Negan on side and have Simon blamed for everything, then make peace. But he's too "I'm gonna kill ya" stupid.

DuraAce

4,240 posts

161 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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That's me done with it now I think. Too many new characters with too little development. Disjointed storyline makes it really hard to follow. its just shadow of the earlier series. A real shame.

Silverbullet767

10,715 posts

207 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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Well, someone needs to keep watching it! I need to know how it ends!

chris watton

22,477 posts

261 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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Silverbullet767 said:
Well, someone needs to keep watching it! I need to know how it ends!
...In disappointment, no doubt...

FourWheelDrift

88,631 posts

285 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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Silverbullet767 said:
Well, someone needs to keep watching it! I need to know how it ends!
With Rick armless and legless still raving at Negan, threatening to kill him as usual.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD9C4

poing

8,743 posts

201 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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Silverbullet767 said:
Well, someone needs to keep watching it! I need to know how it ends!
It'll end when the rest of them realise that Rick is a megalomanic serial killer and Negan is actually the only chance for the human race so they all feed Rick to the big tiger that has now become a zombie tiger.

Davie_GLA

6,537 posts

200 months

Thursday 8th March 2018
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It will end with Rick waking up in the hospital from the coma he was in at the start.

Shortly after I'll be ripping the telly off the wall.

Patrick Bateman

12,203 posts

175 months

Thursday 8th March 2018
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Davie_GLA said:
It will end with Rick waking up in the hospital from the coma he was in at the start.

Shortly after I'll be ripping the telly off the wall.
I'd actually quite like that to happen now. biggrin

P-Jay

10,589 posts

192 months

Thursday 8th March 2018
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poing said:
It'll end when the rest of them realise that Rick is a megalomanic serial killer and Negan is actually the only chance for the human race so they all feed Rick to the big tiger that has now become a zombie tiger.
You know what, that's not that wild a theory - they've already sold the idea that Negan is a benevolent dictator for the most part and Rick MO generally involves invading an existing community, and just-so-happens to end up killing a good few of them in the process.

Doofus

25,950 posts

174 months

Thursday 8th March 2018
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P-Jay said:
You know what, that's not that wild a theory - they've already sold the idea that Negan is a benevolent dictator for the most part and Rick MO generally involves invading an existing community, and just-so-happens to end up killing a good few of them in the process.
This was an interesting idea that was put on The Talking Dead a year or two ago.

- We've been following 'Rick's crew' for so long, that we identify with them.

- Whenever they find a new home, (which they more often than not take from somebody else - the farm, Alexandria), they fortify it, and stop new people coming in.

- If anybody represents a perceived threat, they attack and kill them rather than ask questions.

- Negan has been living with this kind of threat for a long time. Eventually he, and a rag-tag of other persecuted band together. They work as a series of collectives; some grow food, some scavenge, and some protect. Trust is fragile, because Rick's lot are such an unpredictable threat.

- We're watching the whole thing from the POV of a supporter of Rick, so we see Negan threatening people for not producing enough food each week. In fact, he has a huge number of people to protect and to feed, and there's the constant threat of Rick's lot showing up and killing everyone. So Negan has to be tough because he has to maintain some control.

- When Negan first gets Rick's lot together in the woods, he kills Glenn and Abraham apparently in cold blood. In fact, he knows what Rick and his gang did to the Governor, and OceanSide, and Terminal (which, admittedly, had gone a bit feral), so he's acting out of revenge and fear rather than just being an arse.

- It's just another point of view. And it makes as much sense as what we think is actually going on. The theory is that if we'd been watching Negan's crew from the beginning, they'd be the goodies, and Rick's lot would be the baddies.







P-Jay

10,589 posts

192 months

Thursday 8th March 2018
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Doofus said:
P-Jay said:
You know what, that's not that wild a theory - they've already sold the idea that Negan is a benevolent dictator for the most part and Rick MO generally involves invading an existing community, and just-so-happens to end up killing a good few of them in the process.
This was an interesting idea that was put on The Talking Dead a year or two ago.

- We've been following 'Rick's crew' for so long, that we identify with them.

- Whenever they find a new home, (which they more often than not take from somebody else - the farm, Alexandria), they fortify it, and stop new people coming in.

- If anybody represents a perceived threat, they attack and kill them rather than ask questions.

- Negan has been living with this kind of threat for a long time. Eventually he, and a rag-tag of other persecuted band together. They work as a series of collectives; some grow food, some scavenge, and some protect. Trust is fragile, because Rick's lot are such an unpredictable threat.

- We're watching the whole thing from the POV of a supporter of Rick, so we see Negan threatening people for not producing enough food each week. In fact, he has a huge number of people to protect and to feed, and there's the constant threat of Rick's lot showing up and killing everyone. So Negan has to be tough because he has to maintain some control.

- When Negan first gets Rick's lot together in the woods, he kills Glenn and Abraham apparently in cold blood. In fact, he knows what Rick and his gang did to the Governor, and OceanSide, and Terminal (which, admittedly, had gone a bit feral), so he's acting out of revenge and fear rather than just being an arse.

- It's just another point of view. And it makes as much sense as what we think is actually going on. The theory is that if we'd been watching Negan's crew from the beginning, they'd be the goodies, and Rick's lot would be the baddies.
Oh yeah, Rick and Co haven't been the 'good guys' since they left the Farm, and even then they slaughtered a load of walkers against the will of the owners.

You could argue they're like a Virus/Parasite, they attack their host (another community) and when it dies, they move on.

Discussions like this remind me just how good it was, when it was good. New show runners for next series apparently.

type-r

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14,144 posts

214 months

Monday 12th March 2018
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A bit of a polyfilla episode.

A great review here and sums up exactly my feelings on where most people are with the show:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2018/03/11/t...

Edited by type-r on Tuesday 13th March 00:23

AshVX220

5,929 posts

191 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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Agreed type-r, it speaks volumes that only one person commented since it aired in the UK.

ape x

958 posts

78 months

Thursday 15th March 2018
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Doofus said:
P-Jay said:
You know what, that's not that wild a theory - they've already sold the idea that Negan is a benevolent dictator for the most part and Rick MO generally involves invading an existing community, and just-so-happens to end up killing a good few of them in the process.
This was an interesting idea that was put on The Talking Dead a year or two ago.

- We've been following 'Rick's crew' for so long, that we identify with them.

- Whenever they find a new home, (which they more often than not take from somebody else - the farm, Alexandria), they fortify it, and stop new people coming in.

- If anybody represents a perceived threat, they attack and kill them rather than ask questions.

- Negan has been living with this kind of threat for a long time. Eventually he, and a rag-tag of other persecuted band together. They work as a series of collectives; some grow food, some scavenge, and some protect. Trust is fragile, because Rick's lot are such an unpredictable threat.

- We're watching the whole thing from the POV of a supporter of Rick, so we see Negan threatening people for not producing enough food each week. In fact, he has a huge number of people to protect and to feed, and there's the constant threat of Rick's lot showing up and killing everyone. So Negan has to be tough because he has to maintain some control.

- When Negan first gets Rick's lot together in the woods, he kills Glenn and Abraham apparently in cold blood. In fact, he knows what Rick and his gang did to the Governor, and OceanSide, and Terminal (which, admittedly, had gone a bit feral), so he's acting out of revenge and fear rather than just being an arse.

- It's just another point of view. And it makes as much sense as what we think is actually going on. The theory is that if we'd been watching Negan's crew from the beginning, they'd be the goodies, and Rick's lot would be the baddies.
Basically Ricks lot are the invading forces and Bush and Blair.......Negan is Al Queda and ISIS. Both doing what humans have done for centuries..... comes down to good old power aided by belief systems like religion for ultimate control....

FourWheelDrift

88,631 posts

285 months

Thursday 15th March 2018
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Negan is trying to keep control by force and fear, but keeping people alive who want to work with him. Negan is a Roman.

Rick is an invading disease.

marcosgt

11,030 posts

177 months

Thursday 15th March 2018
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type-r said:
A bit of a polyfilla episode.

A great review here and sums up exactly my feelings on where most people are with the show:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2018/03/11/t...
I've not watched this at all this series and I know I've reached the limit when I started reading that review and got bored by it!

Such a shame as I used to love The Walking Dead...

M

irish boy

3,539 posts

237 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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Back on form tonight. Great episode.

kuro

1,621 posts

120 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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irish boy said:
Back on form tonight. Great episode.
Second half of this season is a lot better. I'm actually looking forward to seeing the next episode for a change.

poing

8,743 posts

201 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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We actually had some action and something happened! It's only taken 2 and a half seasons but it looks promising for some actual progress. I'm aware I've just dashed all hopes and that nothing will now happen for about 3 years.

FourWheelDrift

88,631 posts

285 months

Monday 19th March 2018
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They will stretch this out till the end.