Daniel Craig Returns As 007 One More Time
Discussion
HorneyMX5 said:
Frankly I feel it's time for a change. The first couple of films with a new bond are always the good ones. They get steadily worse from there on. The last two, while visually stunning, were very poor in terms of how the story played out.
I'm also not sure how much life is left in the franchise. The character of Bond is very outdated in today's western society. I'm not sure I want him to move with the times, I'd rather he retired.
Haven't the most recent films been a kind of reboot anyway?I'm also not sure how much life is left in the franchise. The character of Bond is very outdated in today's western society. I'm not sure I want him to move with the times, I'd rather he retired.
Introducing Blofeld, Casino Royale, Moneypenny, all things that have already been in the Bond universe before?
I really enjoyed Casino Royale and Skyfall. QoS I didn't like at the time but on repeat viewings it has grown on me a little. It still feels like the bits they didn't want to put in Casino Royale though. Spectre ranks amongst the most disappointing films I've seen (expectation vs what was delivered). For me it has been Hit-Miss-Hit-Miss so this 5th and final film should be good... fingers crossed!
InductionRoar said:
I wanted Tom Hardy to get the role. I'm fed up with Daniel Craig now and think it's time for a change.
Tom Hardy is a great actor but I don't think he's Bond. I think Damian Lewis would be excellent. Henry Cavill aswell, except for the fact he is and will now be associated with, Superman.
Alex said:
One of the things I don't like about Craig as Bond is that his grumpiness and dislike of the character is starting to show through in his performance.
It is a salary negotiation tactic. It has worked extremely well considering the size of each pay check. Howard Stern is the king of this approach.
soad said:
Don't powers that be want Idris Elba as the next 007? Or is that just speculation at best?
I'll look forward to the next film though. Layer Cake was also decent imho.
He keeps getting mentioned but I think he's too old. I think it's mostly the PC brigade that keep going on about him.I'll look forward to the next film though. Layer Cake was also decent imho.
The Surveyor said:
I'm a big fan of the Daniel Craig Bond, he plays the part perfectly well and any disappointment with the recent Bond films have been due to the flaky script, not the lead actor.
Daniel Craig as Bond again, excellent news
I'm inclined to agree, I think the part needs more a bit more tongue in cheek humour like it did when Moore was playing him and I think Craig could do it well.Daniel Craig as Bond again, excellent news
poing said:
soad said:
Don't powers that be want Idris Elba as the next 007? Or is that just speculation at best?
I'll look forward to the next film though. Layer Cake was also decent imho.
He keeps getting mentioned but I think he's too old. I think it's mostly the PC brigade that keep going on about him.I'll look forward to the next film though. Layer Cake was also decent imho.
You see its language and slurs like that against people like myself that know best that force us to get angry
We start out polite and because of lefty antagonism by your sort we end up wanting to put you under citizens arrest and your wife and anyone in the back seat too
Idris Elba isn't black enough we want no demand pure black total black
HorneyMX5 said:
Frankly I feel it's time for a change. The first couple of films with a new bond are always the good ones. They get steadily worse from there on. The last two, while visually stunning, were very poor in terms of how the story played out.
I'm also not sure how much life is left in the franchise. The character of Bond is very outdated in today's western society. I'm not sure I want him to move with the times, I'd rather he retired.
It's only outdated if you let it become outdated. Bond has been a staple movie for 'the guys' to watch in my family for 3 generations, from my grandfather, who was born in the '30s, my dad who was born in the '60s to myself who is very much a '90s kid. Yes the gadgets have changed, yes some of his behaviours and mannerisms have been updated. But for the most part his character has remained a fair constant and is relatable across generations. I think the creators and right holders must realise this and realise the fact that they would be committing brand suicide among their loyal fan base if they try to change the franchise drastically. I'm also not sure how much life is left in the franchise. The character of Bond is very outdated in today's western society. I'm not sure I want him to move with the times, I'd rather he retired.
Although that being said the longer it lasts as a sigil for traditional male values the harder certain groups will try to tear it down.
techiedave said:
poing said:
soad said:
Don't powers that be want Idris Elba as the next 007? Or is that just speculation at best?
I'll look forward to the next film though. Layer Cake was also decent imho.
He keeps getting mentioned but I think he's too old. I think it's mostly the PC brigade that keep going on about him.I'll look forward to the next film though. Layer Cake was also decent imho.
You see its language and slurs like that against people like myself that know best that force us to get angry
We start out polite and because of lefty antagonism by your sort we end up wanting to put you under citizens arrest and your wife and anyone in the back seat too
Idris Elba isn't black enough we want no demand pure black total black
I'm wasting my time but the the reason for saying what I did is because there are some people that want another gender or colour as the main role only because they think it brings equality. I personally couldn't care less who or what is the next JB but I do care that it's the right person for the job and not because they were born with tits or anything else for that matter. I want actual true equality not forced equality.
Since you know best, can you qualify what makes you know best?
poing said:
Ah yes, I'm "your sort". I'm the enemy because I'm white and male so therefor my opinion isn't valid. Anything I say is being racist/sexist or whatever else people want to accuse me of.
I'm wasting my time but the the reason for saying what I did is because there are some people that want another gender or colour as the main role only because they think it brings equality. I personally couldn't care less who or what is the next JB but I do care that it's the right person for the job and not because they were born with tits or anything else for that matter. I want actual true equality not forced equality.
Since you know best, can you qualify what makes you know best?
My stock of parrots I'm wasting my time but the the reason for saying what I did is because there are some people that want another gender or colour as the main role only because they think it brings equality. I personally couldn't care less who or what is the next JB but I do care that it's the right person for the job and not because they were born with tits or anything else for that matter. I want actual true equality not forced equality.
Since you know best, can you qualify what makes you know best?
gregs656 said:
Can you think of any significant steps forward in equality - be it racial, gender, sexuality etc - where the issue hasn't been forced either by will or necessity?
Oh for God's sake here we go, I think even a discussion about cheddar cheese would get derailed and turned into an argument about racism nowadays. Venturist said:
gregs656 said:
Can you think of any significant steps forward in equality - be it racial, gender, sexuality etc - where the issue hasn't been forced either by will or necessity?
Oh for God's sake here we go, I think even a discussion about cheddar cheese would get derailed and turned into an argument about racism nowadays. Stilton, Champagne, Cognac, they are all made by Nazis.
Yes, I am well aware that you can buy Cheddar from places other than Cheddar.
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