Daniel Craig Returns As 007 One More Time

[anonymous-user]

BJG1 said:

I don't think people want Elba because he's black. It's because he's a brilliant actor, good looking and could do the gritty Bond that Craig has really well

I think your quite right
In fact I can see where you are coming from what you are meaning is they want a crap actor really ugly and totally unable to do the nitty grity stuff like DC

How about stephen Fry ?

[gregs656]

BJG1 said:

I don't think people want Elba because he's black. It's because he's a brilliant actor, good looking and could do the gritty Bond that Craig has really well

He also has some currency in the states after The Wire etc, although depending on how The Dark Tower does he might find him self otherwise employed.

[RBH58]

Please let the next one be better scripted than Spectre. I can't forgive them for wasting Christoph Waltz like that. He should have been an unforgettable Blofeld but he had nothing to work with!

[RBH58]

Kierkegaard said:

I think they should re-make some of the old films; Goldfinger etc.

Either make it period from the 60s or an up to date version.

I would love to see them remake the entire canon exactly following the books and set in period (1950s/1960s).

I think the best Bond movies were the ones that most closely followed the books, Dr No. From Russia with Love. Goldfinger, Thunderbal & (my favourite) OHMSS.

I'm a fan of DC as Bond though. He's probably the best technical actor to play the role. Just please get a decent screenplay for the next one!

I love Idris Elba but Bond's history....Scottish father, Swiss mother...orphan.....is too much a part of the character's background.

Edited by RBH58 on Sunday 30th July 13:43

[anonymous-user]

RBH58 said:

I would love to see them remake the entire canon exactly following the books and set in period (1950s/1960s).

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 30th July 13:43

Your definitely onto something and if they could remake The Spy Who Loved Me as it was written it would be an excellent method of employing a womans viewpoint.
Telling it from Vivienne Michel.'s viewpoint would be a fantastic insight into a womans mind.If memory serves she goes into detail about her first time shagging.
“THE SPY WHO LOVED ME was called James Bond, and the night on which he loved me was a night of screaming terror . . .
This is the story of who I am and how I came through a nightmare of torture and the threat of death to a dawn of ecstacy.”

Hooked yet

[Europa1]

gregs656 said:

BJG1 said:

I don't think people want Elba because he's black. It's because he's a brilliant actor, good looking and could do the gritty Bond that Craig has really well

He also has some currency in the states after The Wire etc, although depending on how The Dark Tower does he might find him self otherwise employed.

Unfortunately I'd struggle to get past his trendy blokey matey Virgin Broadband ads.

[droopsnoot]

techiedave said:

if they could remake The Spy Who Loved Me as it was written

Doesn't the entire novel take place inside a motel room, though? Save a fortune on the special effects budget, though. I must admit I breathed a sigh of relief when I saw the film was entirely unrelated to the book.

I've enjoyed the Bond films with Daniel Craig, and I enjoyed the Brosnan ones and, though they perhaps haven't lasted as well, the Dalton ones too. I guess for me it's because they're not as old - people talk about Sean Connery being the best Bond, but I wasn't around to see them new so now they're just old films to me and while there's undoubtedly some good stuff in there, there's some dross as well. Same can be said for Roger Moore - who was Bond for the first one I saw and is therefore the one I identify most as Bond - watching A View to a Kill last night and the way they were figuring out the explosive bit towards the end was painful.

[RBH58]

droopsnoot said:

Doesn't the entire novel take place inside a motel room, though? Save a fortune on the special effects budget, though. I must admit I breathed a sigh of relief when I saw the film was entirely unrelated to the book.

I've enjoyed the Bond films with Daniel Craig, and I enjoyed the Brosnan ones and, though they perhaps haven't lasted as well, the Dalton ones too. I guess for me it's because they're not as old - people talk about Sean Connery being the best Bond, but I wasn't around to see them new so now they're just old films to me and while there's undoubtedly some good stuff in there, there's some dross as well. Same can be said for Roger Moore - who was Bond for the first one I saw and is therefore the one I identify most as Bond - watching A View to a Kill last night and the way they were figuring out the explosive bit towards the end was painful.

Connery will always be the best. Craig the second. Dalton was underrated....Licence to Kill was a good movie. My favourite Bond movie though. was George Lazenby's OHMSS. With hindsight I still think it stands up as one of the strongest in the entire catalogue. Certainly amongst the best Bond screenplays, best Bond direction, best Bond cinematography, certainly the Bond movie soundtrack....probably one of the greatest movies soundtracks ever.

[Europa1]

RBH58 said:

Connery will always be the best. Craig the second. Dalton was underrated....Licence to Kill was a good movie. My favourite Bond movie though. was George Lazenby's OHMSS. With hindsight I still think it stands up as one of the strongest in the entire catalogue. Certainly amongst the best Bond screenplays, best Bond direction, best Bond cinematography, certainly the Bond movie soundtrack....probably one of the greatest movies soundtracks ever.

Wasn't OHMSS the one with the car chase on the beach....with squealing tyres?

[RBH58]

Europa1 said:

Wasn't OHMSS the one with the car chase on the beach....with squealing tyres?

Yes. LOL

BTW That Aston DBS Vantage is beautifully restored and living in my home town of Melbourne Australia right now. I saw it at a car show a few months ago,

[epom]

I like Craig as Bond to be honest.

[Halb]

ReaderScars said:

I was reading an interview with his personal trainer after the launch of Skyfall and he said that DC said he's only got 'one, maybe two' more films in him because the preparation 'absolutely kills him' I think the phrase was.

It's equivalent to being a professional athlete, the training required for athletic stars is immense...on top of everything else. He wants a life.

|Casino Royale...actually rather good, and blew out of the water the short, blond quips.
|Quantum of Solace, liked this, bit flabby in places, but obvious why, it still had the flicker of ori9gnality of the first
|Skyfall, very flabby and laughable in places, hollywood reclaims it's grip on BOnd
VSPECTRE, just absurdest crap.

[Halb]

Idris Elba could easily be BOnd, and still be in keeping with the traditional background (which was retconned for Connery anyway)
But he is mid 40s now, it might usher in a different style of film...'cas empty action cash-ins are ste. It would hopefully increase the quality.

[checkmate91]

techiedave said:

RBH58 said:

I would love to see them remake the entire canon exactly following the books and set in period (1950s/1960s).

Edited by RBH58 on Sunday 30th July 13:43

Your definitely onto something and if they could remake The Spy Who Loved Me as it was written it would be an excellent method of employing a womans viewpoint.
Telling it from Vivienne Michel.'s viewpoint would be a fantastic insight into a womans mind.If memory serves she goes into detail about her first time shagging.
“THE SPY WHO LOVED ME was called James Bond, and the night on which he loved me was a night of screaming terror . . .
This is the story of who I am and how I came through a nightmare of torture and the threat of death to a dawn of ecstacy.”

Hooked yet

Problem with the Fleming books as the basis of films is that they are effectively short stories, a bit like the Ed McBain 87th Precinct novels, not enough to satisfy an insatiable film audience. It's over 30 years since I read my (then reasonably new) McBains and my local library cast-off Flemings (and Hammond Innes and Alistair MacLean books too, as it happens) and, whilst all of the authors I've mentioned have had their ideas turned into film, they've not always been true to the original due to either plot, character development (Fleming, McBain) or substance for a film script (Everyone). Actually, Ice Station Zebra was pretty close.

Oh, but I like Daniel Craig's Bond, another favourite was Roger Moore in TMWTGG (definitely a film of its time and a bit misogynistic today along with the superfluous Sherriff JW Pepper unfortunately and nowhere near the book) but it did kinda follow the plot.

[David87]

Now it's been confirmed by the man himself:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/40945305/dan...

[Hayek]

gregs656 said:

BJG1 said:

I don't think people want Elba because he's black. It's because he's a brilliant actor, good looking and could do the gritty Bond that Craig has really well

He also has some currency in the states after The Wire etc, although depending on how The Dark Tower does he might find him self otherwise employed.

I agree. I think Elba could be really good because he seems really good IMO, nothing to do with what colour he is or isn't.

[Cold]

I'm enjoying Craig's portrayal. His version seems to have a lot in common with Fleming's idea of Bond.

Mind you, he's got nothing on Sweeping Air Man from QoS.

[marcosgt]

Cold said:

I'm enjoying Craig's portrayal. His version seems to have a lot in common with Fleming's idea of Bond.

Mind you, he's got nothing on Sweeping Air Man from QoS.

Ha ha - I wonder if the sound of the brush was distracting, so they asked him to mime it?

Craig's OK as Bond, but I still think Connery and Dalton were the best personally - Craig's films owe too much to the Bourne trilogy IMO, but that's not Craig's fault.

I'm not sure about Elba - I like him as an actor (Great in Luther) and I can see the value of someone who looks like him in the modern world (Not sure Craig could merge seamlessly into an ISIS camp, although as Bond always tells everyone who he is when he arrives anyway, maybe that's not important ), but he's a huge bloke who is never going to blend into the background and as others have said you'd have to discard pretty much all of Bond's back story to accept him in the role.

I'm sure he'd make a great 00X in a Bond film, though.

Just not Tom Hardy though, please - Why do so many men get a hard on for him?

M.

[sparkythecat]

marcosgt said:

Not sure Craig could merge seamlessly into an ISIS camp, although as Bond always tells everyone who he is when he arrives anyway, maybe that's not important

Oh I don't know - a little makeup can work wonders. Look at how convincing Connery was as a Japanese fisherman in You Only Live Twice.

[marcosgt]

sparkythecat said:

Oh I don't know - a little makeup can work wonders. Look at how convincing Connery was as a Japanese fisherman in You Only Live Twice.

That was CONNERY? I assumed they got a Japanese actor to play those scenes!

M