The Vietnam war BBC4

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King Herald

23,501 posts

216 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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Just finished it last night. Bloody hell, Nixon was an absolute tt, what a waste of lives, resources, money etc. An abomination of stupidity and greed by so many people.

I guess most all wars were/are much the same really, just Vietnam was the first to really be seen by the world at large, with the advent of TV for the masses.

How come we don’t see dozens of movies or documentaries about the Korean War? 34,000 Americans dead, 7000 still missing, what’s not for Hollywood to like?

Halmyre

11,204 posts

139 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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King Herald said:
Just finished it last night. Bloody hell, Nixon was an absolute tt, what a waste of lives, resources, money etc. An abomination of stupidity and greed by so many people.

I guess most all wars were/are much the same really, just Vietnam was the first to really be seen by the world at large, with the advent of TV for the masses.

How come we don’t see dozens of movies or documentaries about the Korean War? 34,000 Americans dead, 7000 still missing, what’s not for Hollywood to like?
This definitely wasn't to like (apparently - I think it's permanently out of circulation):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inchon_(film)


mikal83

5,340 posts

252 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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Eric Mc said:
lemmingjames said:
It was more of a dig at Mikal telling us we was all wrong about what weve read
It didn't come across like that as it was in response to what I had posted - which is 100% correct. US Navy surface ships did and still can carry nuclear weapons.
Correcto. And the incident re the Buchanan was because they did NOT confirm or deny they carried any. It had naff all to do with the ships propulsion.

Edited by mikal83 on Wednesday 8th November 09:34

mikal83

5,340 posts

252 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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lemmingjames said:
It was more of a dig at Mikal telling us we was all wrong about what weve read
Nope just you and your assumptions because you read a book or too, but in reality know diddly!

Blaster72

10,842 posts

197 months

Tuesday 7th November 2017
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Halmyre said:
This definitely wasn't to like (apparently - I think it's permanently out of circulation):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inchon_(film)
It's on Youtube but I think I'll skip watching it...

Eric Mc

122,038 posts

265 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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I'd forgotten about that.

The Korean War was not really a shining moment in world history with no clear victory - and definitely not a clear victory for the US. For those reasons it's not been terribly popular as a Hollywood theme.

My favourite Korean War film is this -



MASH (TV and film) was of course set against a Korean War backdrop but it was really an anti-war film aimed squarely at an audience tired of the Vietnam War.

marcosgt

11,021 posts

176 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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lemmingjames said:
Well why dont you tell me where im wrong, given what i wrote is in peoples autobiographies, one person is Tom Abraham who wrote The Cage. One of a few Brits who served in the US Army in Nam.
Wasn't his book revealed to be little more than fiction?

M.

lemmingjames

7,460 posts

204 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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marcosgt said:
Wasn't his book revealed to be little more than fiction?

M.
Just googled him and it appears they say alot of his account is fiction though they dont deny he served in Nam. He also joined in '66 so pre-draft so i guess i got the wrong author on the draft/enlisting route, not sure if i still have the book with the correct author or not - ill have to have a look but given theres numerous sources on the net, agreeing with the enlisting after being drafted, i stand by my argument/comment.

Another good book that looks at both sides perspective is The Tunnels of Cu Chi

mikal83

5,340 posts

252 months

Wednesday 8th November 2017
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marcosgt said:
lemmingjames said:
Well why dont you tell me where im wrong, given what i wrote is in peoples autobiographies, one person is Tom Abraham who wrote The Cage. One of a few Brits who served in the US Army in Nam.
Wasn't his book revealed to be little more than fiction?

M.
Oh dear...........

QuantumTokoloshi

4,164 posts

217 months

Tuesday 30th January 2018
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-29/army-maj...

A good discussion on Vietnam, and the continued impact on the USA.

Dinoboy

2,506 posts

217 months

Tuesday 30th January 2018
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QuantumTokoloshi said:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-29/army-maj...

A good discussion on Vietnam, and the continued impact on the USA.
Thanks for that.

andy_s

19,400 posts

259 months

Wednesday 31st January 2018
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QuantumTokoloshi said:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-29/army-maj...

A good discussion on Vietnam, and the continued impact on the USA.
Bang on the money, a great article. I've just visited the War Remnants Museum in HCMC and a few other sites; a sobering experience and the perspective from the Vietnamese side reinforced to me how tricky any conflict against a population so motivated and determined would be, especially after being veteranised after the French war. They did everything with nothing; they had no choice, and the US was blinkered by a certain arrogance; 'eating soup with a knife' indeed.