The Apprentice 2017

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Jambo85

3,319 posts

89 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Bluedot said:
I think they must be told they can't use any of their current business names or branding.
Must be, wonder if it's to level the playing field a bit? The last task is always a bit odd, because the other people in the team aren't incentivised to help in any way whatsoever!

Also where was Bushra last night? Spotted her in the audience with Rhod Gilbert but missing from the task...

Bluedot

3,593 posts

108 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Jambo85 said:
Also where was Bushra last night? Spotted her in the audience with Rhod Gilbert but missing from the task...
I think previous candidates are invited back but only some of them fancy it or they're just busy and can't make it.


Legend83

9,985 posts

223 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Wiccan of Darkness said:
OK, they were the winner, which one was it?
It was James. Visiting some Marketing bods at our place - probably some low-level campaign.

blueg33

35,956 posts

225 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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aaron_2000 said:
DanielSan said:
I’m good with that. She’s stunning
It was Jade all the way for me biggrin
Michaela (without the stupid glasses) or Sarah for me

m3jappa

6,432 posts

219 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Gutted there wasn't more of jeff the break dancer hehe certainly one of the weirdest contestants ever.

JimmyConwayNW

3,065 posts

126 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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parabolica said:
Agreed. her instagram is worth a look
Sliding into her DM's laugh

I like Joanna.



PF62

3,649 posts

174 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Grumpy old git said:
Why do think he's doolally? He's got them loads of free publicity to give them a kick start, and his "investment" is probably less than his fee for the show.
In one of the very early series the press mentioned Sugar gave his fee to Great Ormond Street Childrens Hospital.

blueg33

35,956 posts

225 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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In business terms £250k is total peanuts, for Sugar its a tiny amount of money and will probably just count as a cost for whichever holding company owns the shares in the new businesses. He is worth about £1.15bn so could do 4,600 £250k investments before he had to start a new paper round.




A few years ago, I had a business opportunity which needed investment from my Group. My presentation asked for £1m pa of working capital to cover overheads and £600k of development capital on a revolver. There was much debate about whether I had requested enough.

It was barely enough, after 2 years I had to increase the both working capital development capital to £1.2m. Now 5 years on we turnover about £60m and make about £6-8m gross, £4-6m net.


200Plus Club

10,772 posts

279 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Not that he needs to advertise anymore but ten weeks x1hr on prime time TV plus the aftershows plus the new articles must equate to a few million in advertising costs I'd imagine.
The two new businesses could never get this amount of coverage for 250k apiece. win win!

TheGuru

744 posts

102 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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200Plus Club said:
Not that he needs to advertise anymore but ten weeks x1hr on prime time TV plus the aftershows plus the new articles must equate to a few million in advertising costs I'd imagine.
The two new businesses could never get this amount of coverage for 250k apiece. win win!
Sweets fine, but as a veteran IT hirer I wouldn't go near James or his company with a barge pole.

I just can't get past the level of skills they all exhibited. They genuinely are clueless. That recruitment firm video and original sweets branding were just beyond cringeworthy. School students could do better. The recruitment firm branding was just dire. (Why are they marketing to candidates rather than companies - that's where their money will come from)


wiggy001

6,545 posts

272 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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TheGuru said:
Sweets fine, but as a veteran IT hirer I wouldn't go near James or his company with a barge pole.

I just can't get past the level of skills they all exhibited. They genuinely are clueless. That recruitment firm video and original sweets branding were just beyond cringeworthy. School students could do better. The recruitment firm branding was just dire. (Why are they marketing to candidates rather than companies - that's where their money will come from)
I still can't get over the fact is decided on "First Tier" rather than "Top Tier" as an obvious alternative that doesn't make you look like the bottom rung of the ladder.

Countdown

39,954 posts

197 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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TheGuru said:
Sweets fine, but as a veteran IT hirer I wouldn't go near James or his company with a barge pole.

I just can't get past the level of skills they all exhibited. They genuinely are clueless. That recruitment firm video and original sweets branding were just beyond cringeworthy. School students could do better. The recruitment firm branding was just dire. (Why are they marketing to candidates rather than companies - that's where their money will come from)
You're judging him/them based on what they managed to cobble together in a couple of days with 5 other clowns.

If he's being honest when he claims to have earned £200k pa then I would guess he knows what he's doing. I'd also suggest they need to market to both candidates AND companies.

I'd quit happily approach him to see what CVs he can put forward. That's the advantage of using RAs - if you don't appoint they don't get paid.

Todd Bonzalez

2,552 posts

163 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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If he's that good, and had the contacts and could make that cash, why give up 50% equity though? Seems insanity to me.

Bluedot

3,593 posts

108 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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Todd Bonzalez said:
If he's that good, and had the contacts and could make that cash, why give up 50% equity though? Seems insanity to me.
He was making that much cash based on commission from working at one of the big players in the industry.
He'd have to be exceptionally gifted or well connected to open doors at the sort of places he was probably placing candidates at that original job.
Having Sugar as his partner will no doubt open all those doors, as it has for Ricky Martin who I read has now opened offices in Manchester and Edinburgh based on his Science and Technology recruitment company.


daemon

35,841 posts

198 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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TheGuru said:
Sweets fine, but as a veteran IT hirer I wouldn't go near James or his company with a barge pole.

I just can't get past the level of skills they all exhibited. They genuinely are clueless. That recruitment firm video and original sweets branding were just beyond cringeworthy. School students could do better. The recruitment firm branding was just dire. (Why are they marketing to candidates rather than companies - that's where their money will come from)
+1

No USP at all from either candidate and both came across as relatively talentless.

I'm surprised Sugar has got involved with either let alone both.

Mind you, your woman from last year hasnt brought much to the party in terms of innovation. Her big USP was home baked opulent cakes yet apparently shes outsourced the baking to another company and the cakes are fairly dry and average and ridiculously overpriced. Also i thought AS didnt like people trading on his name? She had a stall (manned by some disinterested person, not her) at the Manchester Christmas market and had a big lifesize colour cutout of her with AS prominently displayed presumably to encourage the punters in. Not that too many seemed to be bothering.

98elise

26,644 posts

162 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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TheGuru said:
200Plus Club said:
Not that he needs to advertise anymore but ten weeks x1hr on prime time TV plus the aftershows plus the new articles must equate to a few million in advertising costs I'd imagine.
The two new businesses could never get this amount of coverage for 250k apiece. win win!
Sweets fine, but as a veteran IT hirer I wouldn't go near James or his company with a barge pole.

I just can't get past the level of skills they all exhibited. They genuinely are clueless. That recruitment firm video and original sweets branding were just beyond cringeworthy. School students could do better. The recruitment firm branding was just dire. (Why are they marketing to candidates rather than companies - that's where their money will come from)
Agreed. As an IT contractor I know I'm the product, not the customer.

Kev_Mk3

2,777 posts

96 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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Did anyone see Bushra Shaikh tweet lord sugar saying he missed a trick over her idea which is below


http://www.iilacollection.com/

I for one am glad she didnt get it really didnt like her attitude.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Wednesday 27th December 2017
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Kev_Mk3 said:
Did anyone see Bushra Shaikh tweet lord sugar saying he missed a trick over her idea which is below


http://www.iilacollection.com/

I for one am glad she didnt get it really didnt like her attitude.
Meh.. its no http://wickedweasel.com is it ?

andy_s

19,401 posts

260 months

Wednesday 27th December 2017
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SystemParanoia said:
Meh.. its no http://wickedweasel.com is it ?
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