Blade runner 2049

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kev1974

4,029 posts

130 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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Dog Star said:
I won’t be able to see the film til I’m back off my holidays, however I’ve been listening to the soundtrack on Spotify.

It has all the right cues - the massive thumping bass and synths of the original. I can tell it’ll sound awesome. I think, however it’s unfair to compare with the Vangelis (let’s not forget OMD too) soundtrack - you could listen to that as a stand-alone bit of music while driving to work, not so with 2049. For me it’ll be whether it works in the context of the film - I have high hopes as I’m a big fan of Zimmer.

I have yet to find out what the Elvis and Sinatra tracks are about though.
The Elvis part is way cool, very clever, I enjoyed that part a lot. The Sinatra part, less exciting, just an excuse to jam a Sony logo on screen I think!

andy_s

19,408 posts

260 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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First proper film I've seen at the flicks for a long, long time. Massive texture, intelligent, subtle and engrossing.

croyde

22,983 posts

231 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Went to see it expecting to be disappointed but wasn't. Even had a pee before going in but was bursting before an hour was up. Other men of a certain age also appeared to have the same problem.

Had to cross my legs as I didn't want to miss anything.

Saw it at a tiny cinema with sofas so may well go see it again at an iMax.

A beautiful young girl served me at the cinema bar.

You here for Blade Runner? - she asked.

I was embarrassed as being a balding middle aged bloke on my own, I must of looked a typical BR customer.

Yes - I replied.

She then gushed about how much she enjoyed the film and how much she loved the original. We talked about it so much that she stopped serving the rest of the queue lol

I was just surprised that one so young had enjoyed the original.

Anyhow, I digress, I liked the slow pace and the story. The feel felt just right. 2 and three quarter hours went quite quickly.


Escapegoat

5,135 posts

136 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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kev1974 said:
The Elvis part is way cool, very clever, I enjoyed that part a lot. The Sinatra part, less exciting, just an excuse to jam a Sony logo on screen I think!
I thought these were great but...


They were there as a nod towards Joi's existence and origins, tacky ways of staying alive after a human has died? A reminder of some of PKD's themes: what is it to be human, a time to die, etc. It would have been meaningful - and fun - for Joi to have reflected on her own existence more.

I think that Joi was a great addition to the themes of PKD's world, and she was underexploited. There was so much that could have been done to relate hologram AI to replicant to human. Instead we wasted time on Leto and his all-seeing flying fish, and a secret replicant cult. Both of which just wander off before the (terrible) ending. WTF!

stew-STR160

8,006 posts

239 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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croyde said:
Went to see it expecting to be disappointed but wasn't. Even had a pee before going in but was bursting before an hour was up. Other men of a certain age also appeared to have the same problem.

Had to cross my legs as I didn't want to miss anything.

Saw it at a tiny cinema with sofas so may well go see it again at an iMax.

A beautiful young girl served me at the cinema bar.

You here for Blade Runner? - she asked.

I was embarrassed as being a balding middle aged bloke on my own, I must of looked a typical BR customer.

Yes - I replied.

She then gushed about how much she enjoyed the film and how much she loved the original. We talked about it so much that she stopped serving the rest of the queue lol

I was just surprised that one so young had enjoyed the original.

Anyhow, I digress, I liked the slow pace and the story. The feel felt just right. 2 and three quarter hours went quite quickly.
Having worked in a cinema as a part time job, I found quite a few of the younger staff members were true movie buffs. Multiple genres, decades, etc.

Sure, there are always going to be those who have no interest, but like anything, it's easy to talk to someone about a mutual interest.


I saw 2049 on Tuesday in 2D. I will go back for the 3D experience next.

Mr. White

1,034 posts

105 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Escapegoat said:
I thought these were great but...


They were there as a nod towards Joi's existence and origins, tacky ways of staying alive after a human has died? A reminder of some of PKD's themes: what is it to be human, a time to die, etc. It would have been meaningful - and fun - for Joi to have reflected on her own existence more.

I think that Joi was a great addition to the themes of PKD's world, and she was underexploited. There was so much that could have been done to relate hologram AI to replicant to human. Instead we wasted time on Leto and his all-seeing flying fish, and a secret replicant cult. Both of which just wander off before the (terrible) ending. WTF!
agree about the ending. Everything from the fight in the submerging car onwards was bobbins. When the credits rolled in silence everyone just seemed to get up and leave in an underwhelmed silence.

GCH

3,995 posts

203 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Saw it at imax at 11:45am on a tuesday - sold out (non 3D- not interested in that cobblers)

I adore the original as it was a true masterpiece, and for this I purposefully hadn't read any reviews or watched trailers whatsoever, so went in totally blind.


Wow. Visually, sonically, cast, nods to the past in the plot and music...

A worthy sequel.

Edited by GCH on Thursday 12th October 15:35

Luke.

11,002 posts

251 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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GCH said:
Saw it at imax at 11:45am on a tuesday - sold out (non 3D- not interested in that cobblers)

I adore the original as it was a true masterpiece, and for this I purposefully hadn't read any reviews or watched trailers whatsoever, so went in totally blind.


Wow. Visually, sonically, cast, nods to the past in the plot and music...

A worthy sequel.

Edited by GCH on Thursday 12th October 15:35
Is saw it in 3D at the IMAX and it was f-ing epic.

Digger

14,705 posts

192 months

Thursday 12th October 2017
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Luke. said:
GCH said:
Saw it at imax at 11:45am on a tuesday - sold out (non 3D- not interested in that cobblers)

I adore the original as it was a true masterpiece, and for this I purposefully hadn't read any reviews or watched trailers whatsoever, so went in totally blind.


Wow. Visually, sonically, cast, nods to the past in the plot and music...

A worthy sequel.

Edited by GCH on Thursday 12th October 15:35
Is saw it in 3D at the IMAX and it was f-ing epic.
How were the 3D effects? Not too in-your-face, so to speak. smile

Anyone visited the Swiss Cottage Odeon Imax?

zygalski

7,759 posts

146 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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Watched the final cut of the original on blu ray yesterday. Probably the best restoration on any film I've ever seen. Astonishing!

mattnovak

335 posts

103 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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The last time I saw a gosling looking that confused I was on a foie gras tour of France.

shakotan

10,710 posts

197 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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Mr. White said:
Escapegoat said:
I thought these were great but...


They were there as a nod towards Joi's existence and origins, tacky ways of staying alive after a human has died? A reminder of some of PKD's themes: what is it to be human, a time to die, etc. It would have been meaningful - and fun - for Joi to have reflected on her own existence more.

I think that Joi was a great addition to the themes of PKD's world, and she was underexploited. There was so much that could have been done to relate hologram AI to replicant to human. Instead we wasted time on Leto and his all-seeing flying fish, and a secret replicant cult. Both of which just wander off before the (terrible) ending. WTF!
agree about the ending. Everything from the fight in the submerging car onwards was bobbins. When the credits rolled in silence everyone just seemed to get up and leave in an underwhelmed silence.
I quite like Joe's 'Time to die' moment, but I agree the ending was a bit of a whimper, especially given the slow pace of the entire film, the closer really 'wasn't'. It's like everyone went on strike halfway through the closing script, so they decided just to fade everything out instead.


Edited by shakotan on Friday 13th October 14:30

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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An enjoyable film and a rare sequel that can hold its own against an original that is held in such high regard.

I'm mixed on the soundtrack. I feel Zimmer has been a little bit restrained in the shadow of the original, but at the same time it's wholly appropriate for the film.

Gosling's effortlessly cool natural detachment worked brilliantly. I can't imagine anyone else playing the role.

Visually and stylistically stunning.


Escapegoat

5,135 posts

136 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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La Liga said:
An enjoyable film and a rare sequel that can hold its own against an original that is held in such high regard.

I'm mixed on the soundtrack. I feel Zimmer has been a little bit restrained in the shadow of the original, but at the same time it's wholly appropriate for the film.

Gosling's effortlessly cool natural detachment worked brilliantly. I can't imagine anyone else playing the role.

Visually and stylistically stunning.
I thought the opposite. Every replicant we'd ever met before had character. Just like the humans, (JF Sebastien, Tyrell, etc). Gosling had none at all. If this was an attempt to move the plot on from the 2019 world - perhaps by 2049, character has been engineered out of on-Earth replicants - I thought it fell flat.

(And in the packed cinema I was in, there was no emotional reaction from the audience to his character's death.

Contrast with the huge on-screen presence of the actress who played Luv. If she'd been cast as the Blade Runner, it would have been a more compelling character to me. (And there would have been a whole extra dimension to the central plot line.)

andy_s

19,408 posts

260 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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^ i liked his detachment, nearly human but not quite, until his one outburst. Thought it a subtle way of playing it, not often seen these days.

shakotan

10,710 posts

197 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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Escapegoat said:
La Liga said:
An enjoyable film and a rare sequel that can hold its own against an original that is held in such high regard.

I'm mixed on the soundtrack. I feel Zimmer has been a little bit restrained in the shadow of the original, but at the same time it's wholly appropriate for the film.

Gosling's effortlessly cool natural detachment worked brilliantly. I can't imagine anyone else playing the role.

Visually and stylistically stunning.
I thought the opposite. Every replicant we'd ever met before had character. Just like the humans, (JF Sebastien, Tyrell, etc). Gosling had none at all. If this was an attempt to move the plot on from the 2019 world - perhaps by 2049, character has been engineered out of on-Earth replicants - I thought it fell flat.

(And in the packed cinema I was in, there was no emotional reaction from the audience to his character's death.

Contrast with the huge on-screen presence of the actress who played Luv. If she'd been cast as the Blade Runner, it would have been a more compelling character to me. (And there would have been a whole extra dimension to the central plot line.)
Surely his lack of emotion was down to years of Madam/Joshi and the pysch evaluations every day grinding him down?

confucuis

1,303 posts

125 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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I thought the lack of emotion was because he was designed like that. The less human the less susceptible to rebellious thoughts.

gregs656

10,912 posts

182 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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Gosling was superb, I thought.

The way he played his character was entirely consistent with it's context.

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

266 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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I thought it was st to be honest, the sound track did not go with the film, it was a 30 minute film at best and I had to sit there for 3 hours.

jonnyb

2,590 posts

253 months

Friday 13th October 2017
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I saw it at a st cinema in 2D, thinking of going for the IMAX experience at a decent cinema next.

Was a really goof movie, well worth 3 hours of your life.