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yellowjack

17,078 posts

166 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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frisbee said:
I've encountered a tank with L plates on coming the other way on a small country road before. I reversed back to a passing spot very quickly!
A German farmer encountered a 'tank' with L plates on it in 1989, just outside Osnabrück. He didn't reverse, and neither did the 'tank'.

"Dink!" "Dink!" "Dink!" went the blade spacers on the combine harvester blade he was towing on a trailer, as one of the many stowage brackets mounted on the side of the 'tank' caught them all and bent them over.

The poor fella was almost literally jumping up and down, shouting something about "50,000 Deutschmarks". The military police turned up, along with a liaison officer/interpreter, and it all got sorted out. And I went on to pass my category 'H' test three years before I got a car licence (doesn't happen nowadays). Sadly this 'tank' was only an FV 432 APC. I had to wait another year to get a chance to nearly flatten a Volvo estate at the Clouds Hill junction near Bovington Camp when I went on to learn to drive a Chieftain.

yellowjack

17,078 posts

166 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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louiechevy said:
yellowjack said:
Jaguar in a Scorpion though... (4.2 litre straight six) wink

Leyland L60 in a Chieftain.

Rolls Royce K60 'multi fuel' (diesel in practice) engine in an FV 432 APC, and I think Ferrets had Rolls Royce engines too. Oh, and the Rolls Royce Meteor in the Centurion and it's predecessors at the tail end of WW2.
Whoops yes it was a jag engine! I'm getting old that's my excuse. The school was opposite the armoured vehicle supply depot at Ludgershall so we had all sorts of bits and bobs donated. And of course the reason I ended up there was because my grandad who came from up north was posted there and my grandmother who came from Cornwall was something to to with the army cooking and they just stayed in the area.
I was at Perham Down around 1992 to 1994. I served with 3 Field Squadron, when it became 3 Armoured Engineer Squadron. Our re-role parade was held on that old barracks site opposite your school, on the other side of Somme Road from the AVSD. I used to live in one of the (long since demolished) "upside down" houses off Kennet Road, right next to the bus stop where Richmond crescent now stands.

King Herald

23,501 posts

216 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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williamp said:
Wait Here Until Green Light Shows said:
Brilliant program. I must say the thought of that beast clanking down a people lined high street is a tad sketchy to say the least! I think on balance they made the right decision.
A diffficult one and I am inclined to agree. They had terrible visability, and Guy martin in the tank would have created large crowds, difficult to police. You'd need a lot of high viz walking alongside it with (due to the noise) no radio comms. On balance, the right decision. Shame, but there you go.
When you look closely at the steering system, I actually don’t blame the police for not letting it down the town centre. 30 tons of solid steel steered by grabbing a brake on the side you want to turn towards........ engine speed controlled from afar....what could possibly go wrong.

Excellent project, and again, kudos to the companies who spent a fortune helping build it.

ecsrobin

17,119 posts

165 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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King Herald said:
williamp said:
Wait Here Until Green Light Shows said:
Brilliant program. I must say the thought of that beast clanking down a people lined high street is a tad sketchy to say the least! I think on balance they made the right decision.
A diffficult one and I am inclined to agree. They had terrible visability, and Guy martin in the tank would have created large crowds, difficult to police. You'd need a lot of high viz walking alongside it with (due to the noise) no radio comms. On balance, the right decision. Shame, but there you go.
When you look closely at the steering system, I actually don’t blame the police for not letting it down the town centre. 30 tons of solid steel steered by grabbing a brake on the side you want to turn towards........ engine speed controlled from afar....what could possibly go wrong.

Excellent project, and again, kudos to the companies who spent a fortune helping build it.
I posted a video earlier of a WW1 tank driving through Trafalgar Square and then down to horse guard parade. Just had a couple of mounted units walking behind. It’s not like the thing can go very fast.

XCP

16,914 posts

228 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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I would imagine that registration and insurance might have been an issue, but if the police had closed the road that would have been easier I suppose. Would have made a mess of the road surface too I guess.

louiechevy

645 posts

193 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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yellowjack said:
I was at Perham Down around 1992 to 1994. I served with 3 Field Squadron, when it became 3 Armoured Engineer Squadron. Our re-role parade was held on that old barracks site opposite your school, on the other side of Somme Road from the AVSD. I used to live in one of the (long since demolished) "upside down" houses off Kennet Road, right next to the bus stop where Richmond crescent now stands.
You wouldn't recognise the place now all the hangers etc have gone at the depot its going to be new housing, And as I typed this it just occurred to me that not only was my granddad a tank driver my dad worked at the depot after the second world war diving tanks starting on shermans and ending on centurions and my brother also worked there driving yep tanks from the centurion AVRE to the challenger!

Laurel Green

30,779 posts

232 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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I believe the police would not agree because the tank lacked seatbelts.

williamp

19,258 posts

273 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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Laurel Green said:
I believe the police would not agree because the tank lacked seatbelts.
Thats a very daily mail headline and almost certainly bks designed to annoy the "typical police, in my day...etc etc". Besides, racing harness are £100 each and easy to fit so this would not stop them.

FourWheelDrift

88,523 posts

284 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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Imagine if it was a runaway on the high street, crowds would have only hours to react before it careered into Poundland doing pounds of damage.


I want one, do you think JCB will be taking orders?

James TiT

234 posts

86 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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They probably had a very limited amount of petrol in the tank, for safety reasons.

They didn't want it "brewing up"

Smollet

10,574 posts

190 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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Great programme. Hats off to JCB for building it. Now if Guy can be coached into not repeating everything he says at least twice...........

King Herald

23,501 posts

216 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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ecsrobin said:
I posted a video earlier of a WW1 tank driving through Trafalgar Square and then down to horse guard parade. Just had a couple of mounted units walking behind. It’s not like the thing can go very fast.
But the tank barely fitted down the high street he wanted to drive it, as they showed by measuring with bits of rope.


Evoluzione

10,345 posts

243 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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I wonder if anyone near Batley, West Yorks is reading this and knows about the tank they put on display in Wilton Park there? It's one of the most bizarre things i've ever seen in that area and that takes some beating! I'd love to know more about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggQyOqqrt7U

James TiT

234 posts

86 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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King Herald said:
But the tank barely fitted down the high street he wanted to drive it, as they showed by measuring with bits of rope.
There was a reason that they tested it on a country lane miles from anywhere.

Safety reasons?

chunder27

2,309 posts

208 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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If he was planning on putting it down Lincoln High Street, believe me the locals (and I was one of them) have enough traffic issues to worry about already!

one of the worst towns to drive in and around ever!!

So I can understand their point on purely selfish grounds lol!

carl_w

9,181 posts

258 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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Apologies if it was explained during the programme but I presume the original tank didn't have a bloody great stainless steel exhaust with silencer running down the back of it?

FourWheelDrift

88,523 posts

284 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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carl_w said:
Apologies if it was explained during the programme but I presume the original tank didn't have a bloody great stainless steel exhaust with silencer running down the back of it?
Stainless steel is just the modern option to make it last longer and help to stop it leaking gas into the tank.

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

77 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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In the day's when Germans copied things


gifdy

2,073 posts

241 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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williamp said:
Laurel Green said:
I believe the police would not agree because the tank lacked seatbelts.
Thats a very daily mail headline and almost certainly bks designed to annoy the "typical police, in my day...etc etc". Besides, racing harness are £100 each and easy to fit so this would not stop them.
You caught one ! Reel it in, I'll get the net !!

James TiT

234 posts

86 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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XCP said:
I would imagine that registration and insurance might have been an issue, but if the police had closed the road that would have been easier I suppose. Would have made a mess of the road surface too I guess.
Type approval was not applied for, and no lights o indicators were fitted.