SAS: Who Dares Wins
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I think it’s gone too soft. In the first serious they basically screamed at them to get onto the parade square, this year is much softer.
In the first few series when they handed their arm band in they were basically told to f
k off, only the winners got any sort of compliment, this time there seems to be nice words for everyone for taking part. Even the music has got softer with piano scores...
In the first few series when they handed their arm band in they were basically told to f
k off, only the winners got any sort of compliment, this time there seems to be nice words for everyone for taking part. Even the music has got softer with piano scores...Muncher said:
I think it’s gone too soft. In the first serious they basically screamed at them to get onto the parade square, this year is much softer.
In the first few series when they handed their arm band in they were basically told to fk off, only the winners got any sort of compliment, this time there seems to be nice words for everyone for taking part. Even the music has got softer with piano scores...
I think a lot of it has to do with the focus of people they have picked to be on the show. It's almost becoming x factor like where a back story is required. In the first few series when they handed their arm band in they were basically told to f
k off, only the winners got any sort of compliment, this time there seems to be nice words for everyone for taking part. Even the music has got softer with piano scores...S1 was about fit civilians and replicating SF selection as close as possible. This season is about women and mental health. Pulling 16 is a prime example. Physically he was one of the best but he was on the edge. The Dr did the right thing by pulling him.
The conditions are tough. S1 was in the brecons, a tough place but also the highest peak is still below 1000m. In this season they are regularly 2000-3000m and much colder.
Muncher said:
I think it’s gone too soft. In the first serious they basically screamed at them to get onto the parade square, this year is much softer.
In the first few series when they handed their arm band in they were basically told to fk off, only the winners got any sort of compliment, this time there seems to be nice words for everyone for taking part. Even the music has got softer with piano scores...
Was just saying this to my wife - agree. Pussification has reached SAS Who Dares Wins. More like the bloody x-factor with all this crying nonsense.In the first few series when they handed their arm band in they were basically told to f
k off, only the winners got any sort of compliment, this time there seems to be nice words for everyone for taking part. Even the music has got softer with piano scores...Scabutz said:
I think a lot of it has to do with the focus of people they have picked to be on the show. It's almost becoming x factor like where a back story is required.
Nail. On. Head. It has become a victim of pretty much all reality TV shows - wannabe’s trying to get their 15 mins in anyway possible and producers desperate for a bit of public affection/opinion. Whether it be back story, the often cited mental Health struggle or just tears at every opportunity.
I f
king hate reality tv in all forms but there used to be a few shows that were different. Not any more. Noodle1982 said:
The Dr made the right decision with 16.
Had he stayed in we could have been looking at a Private Pyle type incident.
Struck me that 16 had already decided to quit, but didn't want to lose face by handing his number in, so gave it all the mental health spiel and was medically withdrawn by the DS - so he got to tell everyone "I didn't quit".Had he stayed in we could have been looking at a Private Pyle type incident.
If he was so mentally unstable/almost suicidal, how on earth did they not pick that up at the initial psych screenings?
S1KRR said:
andy_s said:
menousername said:
I’ve always wondered what current and former SF make of these characters and the show and whether they approve of the tone/theme of them
The usual piss taking. ('B' Squadron was forever 'Book' Sq after B20, One That Got Away etc), these guys raise a few eyebrows because some were relatively young in terms of experience...McNab did 10yrs with SAS,
Ryan did 7.
Compare to
Middelton 4
Fox (no idea)
Ayahuasca said:
S1KRR said:
andy_s said:
menousername said:
I’ve always wondered what current and former SF make of these characters and the show and whether they approve of the tone/theme of them
The usual piss taking. ('B' Squadron was forever 'Book' Sq after B20, One That Got Away etc), these guys raise a few eyebrows because some were relatively young in terms of experience...McNab did 10yrs with SAS,
Ryan did 7.
Compare to
Middelton 4
Fox (no idea)
Mothersruin said:
Ayahuasca said:
S1KRR said:
andy_s said:
menousername said:
I’ve always wondered what current and former SF make of these characters and the show and whether they approve of the tone/theme of them
The usual piss taking. ('B' Squadron was forever 'Book' Sq after B20, One That Got Away etc), these guys raise a few eyebrows because some were relatively young in terms of experience...McNab did 10yrs with SAS,
Ryan did 7.
Compare to
Middelton 4
Fox (no idea)
Ayahuasca said:
To be fair the guys who served in the war on terror probably saw more action in less time than the Cold War guys.
That's absolutely true, even line regiments had a higher tempo/experience than 'back in the day'. A lot of the work back then was training, exercises, BATT, projecting influence etc - obviously alongside this you had some 'action' but nothing like the last decade and a half, especially after McChrystal reformed JSOC and the methodology of SF operations [closer integration between INT / SF / Reg Forces, and a network hierarchy rather than a 'pyramidical' one] which led to a much higher work-rate and much better success rate.menousername said:
I’ve always wondered what current and former SF make of these characters and the show and whether they approve of the tone/theme of them
I watched a series on Netflix a few years ago, think it was called 'The Unit'.It was based on a book by Eric Haney called Inside Delta Force.
Doing a bit of googling there were a couple of US Military forums where he took a real pasting, with presumably current soldiers/SF not at all happy with the book.
All a few years ago so memory a bit sketchy.
JimmyConwayNW said:
I felt for Milo the young lad who had lost his brother at war. Really felt for him whilst watching that.
Same, on two levels really, both the lose of his brother and the ending of his own hopes to join up due to family which he regrets. Jung said something like the biggest burden a child can bear is the unlived life of the parent, which is sort of the case here. Poor beggar - not a cleft-stick I'd like to be on that's for sure.My take-away was Middleton's little 'emotional control' skit; 'if you're able to switch from high red aggression to compassion and empathy you're an elite soldier, if not, you're just a bully with a gun'. It was a good way of putting it. IIRC on the David Stirling memorial there is a plaque which mentions the qualities he was looking for, you'd expect all the usual gung-ho stuff but actually the first few were humility and humour. Clever cookie.
menousername said:
I’ve always wondered what current and former SF make of these characters and the show and whether they approve of the tone/theme of them
Fox answering that question from his perspective:https://youtu.be/zPsjFxdV6tQ?t=627
daddy cool said:
Struck me that 16 had already decided to quit, but didn't want to lose face by handing his number in, so gave it all the mental health spiel and was medically withdrawn by the DS - so he got to tell everyone "I didn't quit".
Yep exactly what I thought. Didn't have the guts to just hand in his number so got the doc to do it for him. Gassing Station | TV, Film, Video Streaming & Radio | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff