SAS: Who Dares Wins
Discussion
daddy cool said:
Noodle1982 said:
The Dr made the right decision with 16.
Had he stayed in we could have been looking at a Private Pyle type incident.
Struck me that 16 had already decided to quit, but didn't want to lose face by handing his number in, so gave it all the mental health spiel and was medically withdrawn by the DS - so he got to tell everyone "I didn't quit".Had he stayed in we could have been looking at a Private Pyle type incident.
If he was so mentally unstable/almost suicidal, how on earth did they not pick that up at the initial psych screenings?
Scabutz said:
Muncher said:
I think it’s gone too soft. In the first serious they basically screamed at them to get onto the parade square, this year is much softer.
In the first few series when they handed their arm band in they were basically told to f
k off, only the winners got any sort of compliment, this time there seems to be nice words for everyone for taking part. Even the music has got softer with piano scores...
I think a lot of it has to do with the focus of people they have picked to be on the show. It's almost becoming x factor like where a back story is required. In the first few series when they handed their arm band in they were basically told to f
k off, only the winners got any sort of compliment, this time there seems to be nice words for everyone for taking part. Even the music has got softer with piano scores...S1 was about fit civilians and replicating SF selection as close as possible. This season is about women and mental health. Pulling 16 is a prime example. Physically he was one of the best but he was on the edge. The Dr did the right thing by pulling him.
The conditions are tough. S1 was in the brecons, a tough place but also the highest peak is still below 1000m. In this season they are regularly 2000-3000m and much colder.
Every bloody contestant has something wrong with them. Of course there's no way the DS haven't been briefed to "find out" in the chats. It detracts from the exercise.
Of course the flipside is that possibly very few people of decent ability who might actually do well apply. So of the ~25 recruits only maybe 10 are likely to get to the final, so they need to make the numbers up somehow
S1KRR said:
Scabutz said:
Muncher said:
I think it’s gone too soft. In the first serious they basically screamed at them to get onto the parade square, this year is much softer.
In the first few series when they handed their arm band in they were basically told to fk off, only the winners got any sort of compliment, this time there seems to be nice words for everyone for taking part. Even the music has got softer with piano scores...
I think a lot of it has to do with the focus of people they have picked to be on the show. It's almost becoming x factor like where a back story is required. In the first few series when they handed their arm band in they were basically told to f
k off, only the winners got any sort of compliment, this time there seems to be nice words for everyone for taking part. Even the music has got softer with piano scores...S1 was about fit civilians and replicating SF selection as close as possible. This season is about women and mental health. Pulling 16 is a prime example. Physically he was one of the best but he was on the edge. The Dr did the right thing by pulling him.
The conditions are tough. S1 was in the brecons, a tough place but also the highest peak is still below 1000m. In this season they are regularly 2000-3000m and much colder.
Every bloody contestant has something wrong with them. Of course there's no way the DS haven't been briefed to "find out" in the chats. It detracts from the exercise.
Of course the flipside is that possibly very few people of decent ability who might actually do well apply. So of the ~25 recruits only maybe 10 are likely to get to the final, so they need to make the numbers up somehow
In fairness, they are demonstrating just how few people really are suited to working in such an organisation. The people with 'issues' are just normal people. Most people have emotional baggage of one kind or another, and the programme shows how the 'stuff' we carry about will bleed to the surface and will give us frailties which don't affect us too much under normal circumstances, but do show their head when under massive stress.
SF require a whole and specific package of a human. We know that physical strength and resilience alone isn't sufficient. And we've discussed here before how that ideal human also isn't necessarily the person who has lived a pleasant and nurtured life. It is someone who has experienced certain knocks but been of a personality type which deals with them in a certain way.
I think it's too simplistic to simply throw the 'it has become a game show for the look-at-me generation' accusation.
[/Devil's Advocate]
vxr8mate said:
Like it was said, the show probably does attract those with such sadness in their lives
You think so? Im surprised, I don't know why it would... I mean, I love the show, and if I were younger/fitter/stood a chance of lasting more than 5 minutes, I would love to apply - but that's because I like physical exercise, testing myself (to a degree), and being outdoor (especially mountains) - certainly not because i'll like to spill my guts about personal issues on national TV. I'd have thought your Big Brothers/[insert other reality tv here] shows are more the thing that attract attention wes like moths to a flame.I suppose the fact its got to series 3 is proof that its a profitable show, and therefore its audience is increasing, and the general public seem to like this emo-guff... I guess theres slim chance of future series toning back the navel-gazing back-stories.
V8mate said:
She wants to point out that she quit because of appendicitis. But hopes she acts as an inspiration for anyone struggling with mental health.Riiiiight….
"mental health" seems to be a phrase that you can just drop into any sentence - regardless of context - to render your statement impervious to criticism.
daddy cool said:
V8mate said:
She wants to point out that she quit because of appendicitis. But hopes she acts as an inspiration for anyone struggling with mental health.Riiiiight….
"mental health" seems to be a phrase that you can just drop into any sentence - regardless of context - to render your statement impervious to criticism.
V8mate said:
I think Laura could be another Petra, she's certainly made of stern stuff and seems to lead well.
Scabutz said:
Quiet in here.
I fking love this show. So wish I had the balls to enter it myself.
Billy needs to write a book. The world according to Billy. "Good idea eh....I'm fking full of them "
I apply for the show about 3 yrs ago, sent my cv off not expecting back, well they did and wanted me to attend a interview and fitness test, unfortunately I f
king love this show. So wish I had the balls to enter it myself.Billy needs to write a book. The world according to Billy. "Good idea eh....I'm f
king full of them "couldn't do the dates due to work commitments, I think the fitness test was a bit of running, 100 press ups and something like 20 pull ups, so nothing too crazy.
V8mate said:
I was glad when 20 knocked her down. Stemmed from the previous argument over leading the group task. On that, what do we think should happen if you are a member of a team whose leader is struggling to get a grip? Support them and help them out, or ignore them and take over?
Interesting when the young lad with the brother issue was out in charge on a different task. He immediately told the group that he was not a strong personality and asked for their support - which he got.
On the Aussie SAS selection show - with real candidates not a game show - the DS secretly ordered a group member to take over, but they didn’t tell the group leader to stand down, so they were at loggerheads each thinking they were in charge, until one of them backed down.
Nietzsche said what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Goggins demonstrates. https://youtu.be/B9YhjPP3b2s
daddy cool said:
andy_s said:
Nietzsche said what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
He obviously never had Polio.Anyway. Selection process softened up or not, it's still one hell of a challenge and not something I'm anywhere near equal to.
For the record, I wasn't quite sure before, but after this episode I am; I have a huge crush on Louise. I do like tough girls.
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