SAS: Who Dares Wins
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I remain baffled as to why they hood and goggle them before interviews.
They are going to meet people they already know so it doesn't build anxiety for the interviewee; the DS aren't preserving the route to a secret location.
Seems like an entirely superfluous carry-over from their own training?
They are going to meet people they already know so it doesn't build anxiety for the interviewee; the DS aren't preserving the route to a secret location.
Seems like an entirely superfluous carry-over from their own training?
The sobstory bits are generally tedious, but last night took the biscuit.
No.16 (I think), who was the tattoo'd team leader seemed generally weak, through the sea-swell task was the only one that was wiping his face throughout (being on the end had a hand free), and was the first and only to throw the towel in and quit.
Predictably he was dragged in to explain himself and almost without any provocation blurted out "b-b-but I was sexually abused when I was 7".
Now, that sounds horrific obviously... but if he had said "I nearly drowned when I was 7" I could understand why that particular challenge was harder for him. As it is, he just seems to think that he can use his childhood experience as a get-out-of-jail-free card.
No.16 (I think), who was the tattoo'd team leader seemed generally weak, through the sea-swell task was the only one that was wiping his face throughout (being on the end had a hand free), and was the first and only to throw the towel in and quit.
Predictably he was dragged in to explain himself and almost without any provocation blurted out "b-b-but I was sexually abused when I was 7".
Now, that sounds horrific obviously... but if he had said "I nearly drowned when I was 7" I could understand why that particular challenge was harder for him. As it is, he just seems to think that he can use his childhood experience as a get-out-of-jail-free card.
V8mate said:
I remain baffled as to why they hood and goggle them before interviews.
They are going to meet people they already know so it doesn't build anxiety for the interviewee; the DS aren't preserving the route to a secret location.
Seems like an entirely superfluous carry-over from their own training?
It's a disorientation / "I'm in charge" technique. I agree with you - it is a waste of time doing it and then asking you how are you feeling.They are going to meet people they already know so it doesn't build anxiety for the interviewee; the DS aren't preserving the route to a secret location.
Seems like an entirely superfluous carry-over from their own training?
I'd accept it as a wee bit of training for the interrogation phase. The hardest bit is still to come.
pingu393 said:
It's a disorientation / "I'm in charge" technique. I agree with you - it is a waste of time doing it and then asking you how are you feeling.
I'd accept it as a wee bit of training for the interrogation phase. The hardest bit is still to come.
Favourite episode that one, find it really interesting seeing how they do it and how they all get on. Don't know if that makes me some sort of psycho I'd accept it as a wee bit of training for the interrogation phase. The hardest bit is still to come.
MyVTECGoesBwaaah said:
pingu393 said:
It's a disorientation / "I'm in charge" technique. I agree with you - it is a waste of time doing it and then asking you how are you feeling.
I'd accept it as a wee bit of training for the interrogation phase. The hardest bit is still to come.
Favourite episode that one, find it really interesting seeing how they do it and how they all get on. Don't know if that makes me some sort of psycho I'd accept it as a wee bit of training for the interrogation phase. The hardest bit is still to come.
'It's a TV show; there's no risk of you killing me... not even snipping the end of my little finger off. In fact, you won't even wind me with a sharp jab to the stomach. So excuse me if I'm looking a bit bored during this bit.'
daddy cool said:
The sobstory bits are generally tedious, but last night took the biscuit.
No.16 (I think), who was the tattoo'd team leader seemed generally weak, through the sea-swell task was the only one that was wiping his face throughout (being on the end had a hand free), and was the first and only to throw the towel in and quit.
Predictably he was dragged in to explain himself and almost without any provocation blurted out "b-b-but I was sexually abused when I was 7".
Now, that sounds horrific obviously... but if he had said "I nearly drowned when I was 7" I could understand why that particular challenge was harder for him. As it is, he just seems to think that he can use his childhood experience as a get-out-of-jail-free card.
When they started talking to him I said to my lad that I reckon he'd been sexually abused, my lad was briefly shocked at me until his story caught up! No.16 (I think), who was the tattoo'd team leader seemed generally weak, through the sea-swell task was the only one that was wiping his face throughout (being on the end had a hand free), and was the first and only to throw the towel in and quit.
Predictably he was dragged in to explain himself and almost without any provocation blurted out "b-b-but I was sexually abused when I was 7".
Now, that sounds horrific obviously... but if he had said "I nearly drowned when I was 7" I could understand why that particular challenge was harder for him. As it is, he just seems to think that he can use his childhood experience as a get-out-of-jail-free card.
daddy cool said:
The sobstory bits are generally tedious, but last night took the biscuit.
No.16 (I think), who was the tattoo'd team leader seemed generally weak, through the sea-swell task was the only one that was wiping his face throughout (being on the end had a hand free), and was the first and only to throw the towel in and quit.
Predictably he was dragged in to explain himself and almost without any provocation blurted out "b-b-but I was sexually abused when I was 7".
Now, that sounds horrific obviously... but if he had said "I nearly drowned when I was 7" I could understand why that particular challenge was harder for him. As it is, he just seems to think that he can use his childhood experience as a get-out-of-jail-free card.
Its TVNo.16 (I think), who was the tattoo'd team leader seemed generally weak, through the sea-swell task was the only one that was wiping his face throughout (being on the end had a hand free), and was the first and only to throw the towel in and quit.
Predictably he was dragged in to explain himself and almost without any provocation blurted out "b-b-but I was sexually abused when I was 7".
Now, that sounds horrific obviously... but if he had said "I nearly drowned when I was 7" I could understand why that particular challenge was harder for him. As it is, he just seems to think that he can use his childhood experience as a get-out-of-jail-free card.
I think it is very unlikely that he was just using that as an excuse for that task
It is pretty clear certain people have certain issues and they pick the right moment to try and get them to admit it on camera whether it is related to the task or not - but obviously its more relevant to do it when that person is in the limelight
Mojooo said:
daddy cool said:
The sobstory bits are generally tedious, but last night took the biscuit.
No.16 (I think), who was the tattoo'd team leader seemed generally weak, through the sea-swell task was the only one that was wiping his face throughout (being on the end had a hand free), and was the first and only to throw the towel in and quit.
Predictably he was dragged in to explain himself and almost without any provocation blurted out "b-b-but I was sexually abused when I was 7".
Now, that sounds horrific obviously... but if he had said "I nearly drowned when I was 7" I could understand why that particular challenge was harder for him. As it is, he just seems to think that he can use his childhood experience as a get-out-of-jail-free card.
Its TVNo.16 (I think), who was the tattoo'd team leader seemed generally weak, through the sea-swell task was the only one that was wiping his face throughout (being on the end had a hand free), and was the first and only to throw the towel in and quit.
Predictably he was dragged in to explain himself and almost without any provocation blurted out "b-b-but I was sexually abused when I was 7".
Now, that sounds horrific obviously... but if he had said "I nearly drowned when I was 7" I could understand why that particular challenge was harder for him. As it is, he just seems to think that he can use his childhood experience as a get-out-of-jail-free card.
I think it is very unlikely that he was just using that as an excuse for that task
It is pretty clear certain people have certain issues and they pick the right moment to try and get them to admit it on camera whether it is related to the task or not - but obviously its more relevant to do it when that person is in the limelight
In Ollie's book he explained why they get people with a sob story. It's to make the programme more interesting to people other than those just interested in the Military/SF side of things.
The sob-stories make it boring for me, they've overdone it, it's gratuitous and predictable. I don't have much interest in army stuff, but I am fitness orientated and watch the tasks wondering, 'could I do that?' But this series, like some above, I've watch it over my laptop and ff'd through chunks.
THe temp at the beach before they all had a nice lie in the water, what temp would that be?
THe temp at the beach before they all had a nice lie in the water, what temp would that be?
Halb said:
THe temp at the beach before they all had a nice lie in the water, what temp would that be?
Given the light and weather, I reckon it was filmed last autumn, so cold but not freezing, but it's the wind chill (especially over wet skin/clothing) which will have made it feel unbearable. You could see that the mole was entirely unphased by the temperature; was in complete mind over matter mode. So it was only a threat to those without experience of controlling their physical responses.
Halb said:
The sob-stories make it boring for me, they've overdone it, it's gratuitous and predictable. I don't have much interest in army stuff, but I am fitness orientated and watch the tasks wondering, 'could I do that?' But this series, like some above, I've watch it over my laptop and ff'd through chunks.
THe temp at the beach before they all had a nice lie in the water, what temp would that be?
The thing about "selection" is that anyone (assuming they are A1 medical) can be made fit enough to pass, but only a few have it in their head to pass.THe temp at the beach before they all had a nice lie in the water, what temp would that be?
It must be so much harder to pass now, as so many are aware of what's coming. There must be much more "dog in your face" than there used to be.
dieselgrunt said:
Number 16 goes into an empty room for a sob and the camera is remarkably positioned to film him coming in and zoom in on the corner when he has his little cry. Not staged at all.
Maybe. But have you noticed all the pan tilt cctv cameras all over the place, probably being monitored big brother style? I doubt there's anywhere not covered by a camera.pingu393 said:
...but only a few have it in their head to pass...
Indeed.I remember the guy from a previous series. Forget name or what he did. When they went to play the "message from home" He closed his eyes and stuck his fingers in his ears. You never saw it coming, but he was the toughest mentally!
Most of the current lot look like they'd cry if they didn't get a cup of tea and some biscuits!
Good to see that number 11, the spinning queen or whatever she was get kicked off.
'I have a hard exterior' - no you are just massively up your own backside.......
Number 2 - domestic violence victim
Number 16 - sexually abused as a child
Number 11 - 'i was called braceface and thin at school'
'I have a hard exterior' - no you are just massively up your own backside.......
Number 2 - domestic violence victim
Number 16 - sexually abused as a child
Number 11 - 'i was called braceface and thin at school'
Edited by Krupp88 on Tuesday 21st January 08:45
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