Solo: A Star Wars Story

[HorneyMX5]

71% on RT from the critics so far. Early reviews from the more geek end of the spectrum include worlds like safe, dull and prequel-bad.

Oh dear.

[Halb]

RLM have one of their really stupid nerd crew things up. Seems you can only talk about the film if you like it, no negativity allowed

[Lucas Ayde]

highway said:

Both TFA and TLJ were beyond poor. Rogue One was OK but I’ve no desire to watch it again. The air is hissing out of the Star Wars franchise.

I saw Rogue One in the cinema and quite enjoyed it, though I thought the pacing and flow was very uneven at the start. I rewatched it the other week on NowTV and liked it more, will probably pick up the Blu Ray.

TFA - didn't bother going to the cinema, bought the Blu Ray and thought it was pretty awful. Haven't bothered to rewatch.

TLJ - haven't seen it at all yet, will wait for the Blu Ray to go on offer and get it then (as I have all the other main SW films on DVD or BD). Not expecting much from it given all the negative reviews.

Solo - will probably wait 'til it goes on a streaming service that I have a subscription to.

I think the shine has started to go off 'Star Wars' ... doesn't help that it is now hyped to high heaven and you are told that you must unconditionally like anything to do with it, if you are even a little 'nerdy'.

[wevster]

I have seen a review of it on you tube and they were not complimentary about the film.

What a shame.

[JagLover]

HorneyMX5 said:

71% on RT from the critics so far. Early reviews from the more geek end of the spectrum include worlds like safe, dull and prequel-bad.

Oh dear.

I wonder if the audience reviews will end up being worse on RT, as with TLJ.

Those "geek" reviews still sound better than TLJ ended up being

[g3org3y]

Halb said:

RLM have one of their really stupid nerd crew things up. Seems you can only talk about the film if you like it, no negativity allowed

I trust this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwj_SZHqiSc (non spoiler review).

Not exactly complimentary.

[Halb]

g3org3y said:

I trust this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwj_SZHqiSc (non spoiler review).

Not exactly complimentary.

yeah, basically a sci-fi film with star wars smashed onto it, the canuk, roz was linked from that guy, I watched him too, he basically says the same...I wonder if a so-so film will do big business.

Roz Weston Reviews ‘Solo: A Star Wars Story’

https://youtu.be/awrYDk2zOz0
12mins

[highway]

The Marvel movies are the new event movie. They have become what Star Wars once was. Given the amount of resources available TFA was poor. TLJ bordered on unforgivable. The two movies squandered the legacy almost completely.

The assumption was the new characters would capture the publics imagination and the would be an effective baton pass. This hasn’t happened as the current, new actors are bland and uninteresting.

The franchise has begun its decline.it would take something special to change that.

[JagLover]

highway said:

The Marvel movies are the new event movie. They have become what Star Wars once was. Given the amount of resources available TFA was poor. TLJ bordered on unforgivable. The two movies squandered the legacy almost completely.

The assumption was the new characters would capture the publics imagination and the would be an effective baton pass. This hasn’t happened as the current, new actors are bland and uninteresting.

The franchise has begun its decline.it would take something special to change that.

I dislike TLJ as much as anyone but I don't think there was anything fundamentally wrong with the characters (and the actors playing them) of Rey and Finn going into that movie. They were no more wooden than Luke in the original trilogy.

The issue was the appalling writing IMO

Fully agree though that the franchise is in steep decline and you would have to somehow erase TLJ to change that.

[Halb]

THe proper trilogy had; Guinness, Cushing et al, they gave the chops to allow the story to work and by the end, we cared.

The new ones, well Ford and Fisher are those roles, Ford was mishandled, and then bumped off, he had some damn good bits, some very Guinness moments, but not enough, Leia was barely in it and Hamill was utterly and laughably squandered. So the young crappy ones, look rather crappy. The guy that plays Poe is interesting, I've seen him in stuff, he's good, I can only imagine the direction is pants.

[ukaskew]

JagLover said:

Fully agree though that the franchise is in steep decline and you would have to somehow erase TLJ to change that.

Any more so than it was around the time of the prequel trilogy? Star Wars commands a special place in many hearts but the actual movies have been mixed at best for over 30 years now.

Financially the series is doing as well, even an offshoot like Rogue One made more money than 2 of the prequels (adjusted for inflation) and I'd assume the brand itself is generating more cash than ever.

Solo is by far the toughest sell of the lot though, particularly releasing bang in the middle of what is likely to be the biggest summer on record.

[Halb]

The prequels started off badly and slowly got better. I have no interest in watching them, save for the last third of the last one, but not the neverending st fight between Ewan and the other fella. PLus there were two years between films, the direction seems to be reversed in the current lot, and 5 months between films? That's insane, I thought yearly might be stretching it, the specialness rubs off.

The toys sales are affected by the disinterest in the films too.

[JagLover]

ukaskew said:

JagLover said:

Fully agree though that the franchise is in steep decline and you would have to somehow erase TLJ to change that.

Any more so than it was around the time of the prequel trilogy? Star Wars commands a special place in many hearts but the actual movies have been mixed at best for over 30 years now.

Arguable yes as there was still the potential to release better movies set after the originally trilogy and using the stars of that trilogy. TLJ by contrast has taken everything setup by both the original trilogy and The Force Awakens and mostly discarded it.

ukaskew said:

Financially the series is doing as well, even an offshoot like Rogue One made more money than 2 of the prequels (adjusted for inflation) and I'd assume the brand itself is generating more cash than ever.

The test will come when they release further movies set after TLJ. Many people stung last time are unlikely to be going to midnight screenings to see those. Unlike many Hollywood franchises they will not be able to count on anything from China so are mainly reliant on western audiences.

[Coolbanana]

I've enjoyed all the new Star Wars movies without exception.

Booked to see Solo in Amsterdam next week in 4DX 3D followed by a trip to one of the best burger restaurants in the city.

[Halb]

JagLover said:

ukaskew said:

JagLover said:

Fully agree though that the franchise is in steep decline and you would have to somehow erase TLJ to change that.

Any more so than it was around the time of the prequel trilogy? Star Wars commands a special place in many hearts but the actual movies have been mixed at best for over 30 years now.

Arguable yes as there was still the potential to release better movies set after the originally trilogy and using the stars of that trilogy. TLJ by contrast has taken everything setup by both the original trilogy and The Force Awakens and mostly discarded it.

ukaskew said:

Financially the series is doing as well, even an offshoot like Rogue One made more money than 2 of the prequels (adjusted for inflation) and I'd assume the brand itself is generating more cash than ever.

The test will come when they release further movies set after TLJ. Many people stung last time are unlikely to be going to midnight screenings to see those. Unlike many Hollywood franchises they will not be able to count on anything from China so are mainly reliant on western audiences.

Yeah China just don't care, which is reflected in how SOlo has bene marketed there.
THe real test will be in the next one in the triloy proper as you say. I just love the numbers, so am keen on what Solo will do and if DP2 will steal thunder from IW, can SOlo even get a look in now?

[Moonhawk]

Whilst some of the reviews are coming out ok - it looks like they couldn't keep the SJW crap out of it.

Apparently:

We have a 'female' droid who is into "droid rights".

Now one of the writers has come out and stated that Lando is apparently pansexual (just a polite SJW way of saying he's bisexual)

That's not an issue in itself and pansexuality is hardly unprecedented in scifi - Captain Jack Harkness was in Dr Who and I guess technically Star Lord in the MCU could also be classed as one given his is "man who has lain with an aaskvarian" (I supposed Captain Kirk in Star Trek and Frost in Aliens would qualify too).

I just don't get what the point of pointing it out up front is? If it's relevant to the plot, i'm sure people would work it out pretty quickly.

Edited by Moonhawk on Wednesday 23 May 21:29

[Halb]

Moonhawk said:

Whilst some of the reviews are coming out ok - it looks like they couldn't keep the SJW crap out of it.

Apparently:

We have a 'female' droid who is into "droid rights".

Now one of the writers has come out and stated that Lando is apparently pansexual (just a polite SJW way of saying he's bisexual)

That's not an issue in itself and pansexuality is hardly unprecedented in scifi - Captain Jack Harkness was in Dr Who and I guess technically Star Lord in the MCU could also be classed as one given his is "man who has lain with an aaskvarian" (I supposed Captain Kirk in Star Trek and Frost in Aliens would qualify too).

I just don't get what the point of pointing it out up front is? If it's relevant to the plot, i'm sure people would work it out pretty quickly.

Edited by Moonhawk on Wednesday 23 May 21:29

the worldclassbullstters guy predicted the Lando thing. The droids thing, there's bene a stigma agaist droids from the start, and that was expained in the prequels, so I guess that feels more OK

[ukaskew]

My local multiplex have allocated 6 screens for this at midnight tonight. They usually judge it well (Infinity War was packed, Last Jedi etc) but looking at the seat picker it's incredibly quiet for Solo, the bookings would fit in one screen with room to spare. Pre-bookings for Thursday and Friday evening are really, really poor too.

I'm sure it'll make a shed load of cash, but I really don't think it's going to trouble Rogue One.

[HorneyMX5]

Is anyone from here even going to a midnight showing?

First time I’ve not bothered in the Disney era and I can’t say I know anyone else who is going either. Their used to be a huge bunch of us who would go together.

[Halb]

TFA - first midnight showing
R1 - early on showing in weekday
TLJ - watched it in the first week...I think, my SO wanted me to watch it to discuss, daytime viewing post weekend so it'd be empty
Solo - I'll wait till it's on telly