The Crash Detectives BBC

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wjwren

4,484 posts

136 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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Megane looked like it had slicks on.

oobster

7,098 posts

212 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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wjwren said:
Megane looked like it had slicks on.
I had a BIT of sympathy with the Megane driver, only took himself out while pressing on in a performance car, but the sympathy went once it was obvious he didn't have a seatbelt on, and had plugged in a 'blank' to ensure the electronics wouldn't notify him constantly.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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oobster said:
wjwren said:
Megane looked like it had slicks on.
I had a BIT of sympathy with the Megane driver, only took himself out while pressing on in a performance car, but the sympathy went once it was obvious he didn't have a seatbelt on, and had plugged in a 'blank' to ensure the electronics wouldn't notify him constantly.
Or no air bag, there is a list with that one.

wjwren

4,484 posts

136 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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Just looked, you can buy the blank seatbelt things on ebay! Must order one later.

wjwren

4,484 posts

136 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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Steering wheel looked cool with those 6 buttons that did nothing.

Fort Jefferson

8,237 posts

223 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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oobster said:
Thanks OP, just watched two episodes and about to watch a third.

Very interesting program, well presented without being sensationalised.
This sums it up very well, I can't understand why it's only on BBC Wales and iPlayer.

P-Jay

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10,577 posts

192 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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Fort Jefferson said:
oobster said:
Thanks OP, just watched two episodes and about to watch a third.

Very interesting program, well presented without being sensationalised.
This sums it up very well, I can't understand why it's only on BBC Wales and iPlayer.
There’s no great mystery to it, BBC Wales and Scotland make their own series to fill in a time-slot when there’s something on BBC One ‘England’ (I’ve no idea what’s on Monday nights at 8:30 in England) that forever reason isn’t broadcast here. If it gets a decent following it’ll be rebroadcast nationally and/or have another series that goes out Nationally.

I wonder if ‘Keeping Faith’ is national.

P-Jay

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10,577 posts

192 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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Of course when I say “broadcast” here its a bit off a moot point as thanks to Freeview, Sky and Virgin we can watch any version of BBC One we want.

Unlike in the 90s when we had to wait till late in the evening to watch TFI Friday frown

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 3rd May 2018
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oobster said:
I had a BIT of sympathy with the Megane driver, only took himself out while pressing on in a performance car,
overtaking on blind bends is more than pressing on. If he hadn't died then it was clear it was only time.

oobster

7,098 posts

212 months

Thursday 3rd May 2018
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Thesprucegoose said:
oobster said:
I had a BIT of sympathy with the Megane driver, only took himself out while pressing on in a performance car,
overtaking on blind bends is more than pressing on. If he hadn't died then it was clear it was only time.
Was he overtaking on a blind bend though? If so I missed that part, I thought the accident was the result of coming over the crest of the hill to find the turf delivery lorry stopped and the oncoming lane full of another HGV, was the Megane driver not in his lane the whole way to the accident?

S. Gonzales Esq.

2,557 posts

213 months

Thursday 3rd May 2018
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It was said that other drivers reported being overtaken dangerously by the Megane moments before the crash.

There's a difference between 'pressing on' and doing more than 70 in a residential area, and what about the idea of being able to stop in the distance you can see?

I think this programme needs a repeat on a national channel. Knowing what actually causes crashes (or turns survivable ones into fatal ones) is something drivers should know more about.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Thursday 3rd May 2018
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Thought there was also the question of the brake skid marks (30 mrs or so and was the ABS working), he looked to be coming over a rise in the road on a 40 limit and they approximated 70mph where the skids started and 50 at impact (the bit with the speedo stopped at 50). Enough for the lorry loaded with turf to be shunted and the drivers head to snap back and smash the rear view screen.

Edit. That is the lorry drivers head sat in a stationary lorry.

Fort Jefferson

8,237 posts

223 months

Thursday 3rd May 2018
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I'd say one half hour episode of Crash Detectives, is worth three episodes of TopGear.

Elroy Blue

8,688 posts

193 months

Thursday 3rd May 2018
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I hope this series make people think again when they moan about Police closing roads

StoatInACoat

1,354 posts

186 months

Friday 4th May 2018
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Megane one was a bit tough to watch. I'm on a Meganesport facebook group and remember the brother of the lad who died posting up when it happened. Didn't know the details of the crash until I saw the program but that car is pretty much identical to mine so was a bit eerie seeing that familiar dashboard all smashed to bits like that.

wjwren

4,484 posts

136 months

Friday 4th May 2018
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StoatInACoat said:
Megane one was a bit tough to watch. I'm on a Meganesport facebook group and remember the brother of the lad who died posting up when it happened. Didn't know the details of the crash until I saw the program but that car is pretty much identical to mine so was a bit eerie seeing that familiar dashboard all smashed to bits like that.
Joking aside, are there others on this Megane forum who use seat belt blankers?

Megaflow

9,430 posts

226 months

Friday 4th May 2018
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Thesprucegoose said:
oobster said:
I had a BIT of sympathy with the Megane driver, only took himself out while pressing on in a performance car,
overtaking on blind bends is more than pressing on. If he hadn't died then it was clear it was only time.
Indeed. Judging by other details, bald tyres, faulty ABS, seat belt, etc. the driver was a tool of the highest order.

untakenname

4,970 posts

193 months

Friday 4th May 2018
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Probably the best tv I've seen on the BBC for a while, imo the driver crashing into the tractor should have got a stiffer sentence, wouldn't be surprised if his missus left him and took the kids tbh.


Wondering what the guy did to the brakes to cause them to lock in such a way, afaik he was running a stock brake setup and not some dodgy BBK, wonder if he fitted a bias valve?

wjwren said:
Joking aside, are there others on this Megane forum who use seat belt blankers?
Seat blankers are useful for when you've got a 4/5 point harness to stop the nagging boing noise, using one to simply not wear a seatbelt of any kind is fully retarded though.

wjwren

4,484 posts

136 months

Friday 4th May 2018
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Re ABS, I think he disabled it, so when he braked for the lorry it just locked up.

StoatInACoat

1,354 posts

186 months

Friday 4th May 2018
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wjwren said:
Joking aside, are there others on this Megane forum who use seat belt blankers?
Not as far as I'm aware. I didn't know such a thing existed or that people still needed to be told to wear a seatbelt. Those steering wheels are a common upgrade and the buttons will have operated the cruise control. The seats and brakes are standard kit.

Disabling the ABS isn't a thing either as far as I know and nor is it particularly problematic (as in it breaks so people strip it out which is usually why stuff like that gets removed) which isn't to say some don't do it anyway! Warning lights all over the dash are just a Megane thing though so even if it was flashing the owner may have just assumed it was having a funny five minutes. The Clio 172 Cup didn't have ABS from the factory though (Endcarboremode)


Edited by StoatInACoat on Friday 4th May 13:47


Edited by StoatInACoat on Friday 4th May 13:50