A very English scandal - Jeremy Thorpe

A very English scandal - Jeremy Thorpe

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anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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MYOB said:
Not to those who were born during or after the events.
Fair enough.

It's a right cliffhanger. For those that don't know what happens this week will be like Terry and Bob avoiding the England score, but for a whole week.

NDA

21,574 posts

225 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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vixen1700 said:
J
I do remember the trial when I was a kid in the 70s and remember the references to 'Bunny' being all over the papers.
Me too - I grew up in North Devon too, so Thrope (with thanks to Peter Cook) was our local MP.

For those who might not know, this sketch by Cook satirised the trial and was a very famous sketch at time as it got as close to the wire as you were allowed to in those days:

https://youtu.be/Kyos-M48B8U

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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NDA said:
Me too - I grew up in North Devon too, so Thrope (with thanks to Peter Cook) was our local MP.

For those who might not know, this sketch by Cook satirised the trial and was a very famous sketch at time as it got as close to the wire as you were allowed to in those days:

https://youtu.be/Kyos-M48B8U
Contains spoilers.
But it really is excellent.

crofty1984

15,859 posts

204 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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MYOB said:
ClaphamGT3 said:
gooner1 said:
desolate said:
Surely a bit difficult to have a spoiler when it's based on reality?
Not really.
Admittedly most people of a certain age will know the outcome, a lot of younger
ones may not.

I for one was not aware of every facet of this case.
Its general knowledge ffs......
Not to those who were born during or after the events.
I've never heard of it.

coppice

8,610 posts

144 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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I'm being reminded of those quiz contestants who , when asked who the Beatles were, or who attacked Pearl Harbour say 'sorry, that was before my time'.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

261 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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coppice said:
I'm being reminded of those quiz contestants who , when asked who the Beatles were, or who attacked Pearl Harbour say 'sorry, that was before my time'.
I don't think you can really compare someone shooting a great Dane with the attack on Pearl Harbour.

Nevertheless it is strange how so little is made of this compared with the Profumo scandal which was, and still is, blown up out of all proportion. Presumably the acquittal made it difficult to comment on what really might have happened.

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

117 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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Dr Jekyll said:
Nevertheless it is strange how so little is made of this compared with the Profumo scandal which was, and still is, blown up out of all proportion.
The British secretary of State for War using the services of a prostitute whom, amongst her other customers could include the Soviet military Attache to Britain?

I don't think you could blow that out of proportion.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

261 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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The Mad Monk said:
The British secretary of State for War using the services of a prostitute whom, amongst her other customers could include the Soviet military Attache to Britain?

I don't think you could blow that out of proportion.
It was though. It was implied that Christine Keeler was some kind of spy for the KGB when no intelligence agency would have employed her to make the tea.

There were discreet comments in gossip columns about 'his Rover pulling up at the front just as the Zil is driving away at the back' so it was clearly known about in high places.

Then the Express (I think) got hold of it because at a time of spy fever the combination of sex, a minister, and the soviet military attaché was a good story, and also because the paper's editor was having a feud with the Astors, who owned the Cliveden estate where Profumo and Keeler met.

Incidentally the notion of Stephen Ward living off Keeler's and Rice-Davies' immoral earnings was absurd. He was supporting them not the other way round.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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Dr Jekyll said:
The Mad Monk said:
The British secretary of State for War using the services of a prostitute whom, amongst her other customers could include the Soviet military Attache to Britain?

I don't think you could blow that out of proportion.
It was though. It was implied that Christine Keeler was some kind of spy for the KGB when no intelligence agency would have employed her to make the tea.

There were discreet comments in gossip columns about 'his Rover pulling up at the front just as the Zil is driving away at the back' so it was clearly known about in high places.
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She was doing unmentionables then ?
It sounds like DP to me

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

117 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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Woss DP?

gooner1

10,223 posts

179 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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The Mad Monk said:
Woss DP?
Double Penetration.

Do they teach you nowt in that monastery? smile

PurpleTurtle

6,990 posts

144 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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Am enjoying the show, Hugh Grant is excellent, I know he's somewhat typecast but he really does do 'Pompous Toff' extraordinarily well.

Good to see Neil from The Inbetweeners somewhat more diversified! Likewise Ben Wishaw is always excellent.

The Triumph Stag in last night's ep was lovely. Such a shame that had its engine overheating issues, I always thought it should have been much more succesful, a very elegant car for its time.


tim0409

Original Poster:

4,414 posts

159 months

Sunday 3rd June 2018
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I really enjoyed that; an extremely well executed drama, and the actors were superb.

I'm recording the BBC 4 programme that follows, which should be interesting and contains unseen footage.

Randy Winkman

16,136 posts

189 months

Monday 4th June 2018
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I really liked it to. The judge's summing up was unbelievable. Presumably it was verbatim. Haven't watched the documentary that followed it yet though.

megaphone

10,725 posts

251 months

Monday 4th June 2018
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The BBC4 1979 Panorama programme that followed was very interesting, worth a look. One thing it did show was how accurate the drama was.

rdjohn

6,180 posts

195 months

Monday 4th June 2018
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Easily the best thing on TV this year, Hugh Grant was brilliant, of course, but the supporting cast and production were all excellent.

I think if it had been put forward as a work of pure fiction, people would have thought that it was too far-fetched.

Mark-C

5,092 posts

205 months

Monday 4th June 2018
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megaphone said:
The BBC4 1979 Panorama programme that followed was very interesting, worth a look. One thing it did show was how accurate the drama was.
Thoroughly enjoyed the series and recorded the BBC4 program for later.



The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

117 months

Monday 4th June 2018
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There can be no doubt. The British do farce best.

Heddlu coppers travel 150 miles to Dorking to find that Scott is not in!

Why are the Welsh police involved in this?

There is a survey going round at the moment - what it means to be English.

THIS is what it means to be English!.

RemyMartin81D

6,759 posts

205 months

Monday 4th June 2018
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Randy Winkman said:
I really liked it to. The judge's summing up was unbelievable. Presumably it was verbatim. Haven't watched the documentary that followed it yet though.
Made famous by a sketch performed by Peter Cook.

vixen1700

22,913 posts

270 months

Monday 4th June 2018
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Great stuff, really enjoyed this. smile