Le Mans ‘66, Ford vs. Ferrari - movie

Le Mans ‘66, Ford vs. Ferrari - movie

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LukeBrown66

4,479 posts

46 months

Sunday 2nd August 2020
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Thought it was truly awful to be honest, very Americanised and dumbed down, would rather it has been a documentary to be honest. All a bit too clean and perfect for my liking.

Ladders

247 posts

224 months

Sunday 2nd August 2020
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I watched it last week and really enjoyed it. Can’t understand why Ken Miles isn’t better know and more revered here!?

Thought both Bale and Damon were great, and the action scenes were full of action! Very nicely styled scenes as well, a lot of times I thought that that scene would make a great poster.

Did look a lot up on google to check if it was accurate or had really happened that way.

coppice

8,610 posts

144 months

Monday 3rd August 2020
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Ken Miles is appreciated by us old farts who take an interest in motorsport history , rather than confining their to very recent F1. There are many other drivers from that era - in which F 1 was an important part, but not the be all and end all and sometimes far from the quickest.

Names like the bloody wonderful Vic Elford , Nino Vaccerella (Targa Florio Ferrari hero and ) Paul Hawkins ,Mike Parkes and many more

nicanary

9,795 posts

146 months

Monday 3rd August 2020
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coppice said:
Ken Miles is appreciated by us old farts who take an interest in motorsport history , rather than confining their to very recent F1. There are many other drivers from that era - in which F 1 was an important part, but not the be all and end all and sometimes far from the quickest.

Names like the bloody wonderful Vic Elford , Nino Vaccerella (Targa Florio Ferrari hero and ) Paul Hawkins ,Mike Parkes and many more
Good picks. Hawkeye set an overall lap-record at the Rheims 12-hours in a Lola T70 IN THE DARK! Baffled journalist asked him how he managed it and the reply was " I got lights dunn'I ?"

DeejRC

5,797 posts

82 months

Monday 3rd August 2020
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Nino is one of my all time legend heros.

nicanary

9,795 posts

146 months

Monday 3rd August 2020
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DeejRC said:
Nino is one of my all time legend heros.
Every team at the Targa wanted him not only for his knowledge of the circuit, but also for the fervent crowd support he brought with him. Still signs visible today painted on walls and the road.

DeejRC

5,797 posts

82 months

Monday 3rd August 2020
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There was cool and then there was Nino.

DBSV8

5,958 posts

238 months

Monday 3rd August 2020
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coppice said:
Ken Miles is appreciated by us old farts who take an interest in motorsport history , rather than confining their to very recent F1. There are many other drivers from that era - in which F 1 was an important part, but not the be all and end all and sometimes far from the quickest.

Names like the bloody wonderful Vic Elford , Nino Vaccerella (Targa Florio Ferrari hero and ) Paul Hawkins ,Mike Parkes and many more
Vik Elford ,

and Nino , can be seen here Michael Keyser the speed merchants

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=vik+elford+th...

its well worth watching

https://www.dukevideo.com/prd7234ED/Speed-Merchant...

theres also a very good book of the period






coppice

8,610 posts

144 months

Monday 3rd August 2020
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I have the video , but thanks.. On the wall above me is a picture of Bandini's Ferrari 275P2 the 65 Targa Florio - the one race , above all others, I wish I'd seen in period . I've got it bad !

MitchT

15,868 posts

209 months

Saturday 30th July 2022
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Just watching this on C4 now, having never seen it. Somehow I wasn't even aware it had been made!

The usual complaints about motor racing films... unrealistic acceleration and cornering speeds, unrealistic crashes and that silly, dramatic changing down a gear thing they do, despite already being flat out on a long straight!

Also, some of the curses being used sound distinctly 21st century.

Otherwise enjoyable enough.

DBSV8

5,958 posts

238 months

Sunday 31st July 2022
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MitchT said:
.. that silly, dramatic changing down a gear thing they do, despite already being flat out on a long straight!

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clearly you've never seen vanishing point

Eric Mc

122,032 posts

265 months

Sunday 31st July 2022
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Got around to watching this on DVD a few weeks ago. I really enjoyed it even if some of the true history was omitted.

21st Century Man

40,903 posts

248 months

Sunday 31st July 2022
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The infinite gears/revs didn't seem half as bad 2nd time around. Decent film.

sixor8

6,293 posts

268 months

Sunday 31st July 2022
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Decent film I thought. Good characters in his wife Mollie and son Peter I thought, too. Even little things like the fact Ken miles drank tea all the time were covered. smile Slight liberties taken for the film, the GT40 actually raced at Le Mans and broke down in '64 (with 10 cars) and '65 (with 11 AND with Miles as a driver) before the success in '66.

I learnt something in that GT40s were right-hand drive, it wasn't an error, like I thought. rolleyes

Stealthracer

7,729 posts

178 months

Sunday 31st July 2022
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sixor8 said:
.... GT40s were right-hand drive ....
As were many Ferraris, Porsches, etc. This was because many European circuits were right-handed, and the closer you are sitting to the apex, the easier it is to see.

entropy

5,442 posts

203 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2022
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Watched this last night. Enjoyed it and was much better than I expected.

Admittedly, before the movie originally came out I knew next to nothing about Ken Miles even though I knew who Carrol Shelby was, familiar with the Ford-Ferrari takeover proposal, GT40 originally British/Lola, and even the legendary Wood Brothers NASCAR team employed for pitstop duty.

For this reason its probably why I enjoyed it a lot more than Rush which I was forever picking holes at to ruin. (Note to self - it's a popcorn movie, not a documentary)

Yes, the racing scenes were laughable but they managed a good human story between a droll Texan and maverick Limey working for a parochial corporation.

Noticed Road Atlanta subbed for Le Mans and California Speedway subbed for Daytona. (Note to self - it's a popcorn movie, not a documentary)

DBSV8

5,958 posts

238 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2022
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if you enjoyed the film , you really need to read the book by A J Baime

Go like Hell ,



really good read and an interesting chapter about the top Ferrari driver at the time "Il John " John Surtees who quit the team before the 66 le mans race due to the Ferrari politics ...............somethings never change

coppice

8,610 posts

144 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2022
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Mind you , Big John did have a reputation for falling out with people . Maybe that is why , to the dismay of some, he remain unknighted ?.

LeadFarmer

7,411 posts

131 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2022
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MitchT said:
....dramatic changing down a gear thing they do, despite already being flat out on a long straight!
Just like Top Gun Maverick, whenever the pilots suddenly need fast acceleration they slam that lever down and it makes a massive clunk sound and the plane blasts off....

langy

565 posts

239 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2022
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I stumbled across this a couple of nights ago on Ch4 and I really enjoyed it.

I appreciate motor racing of yesteryear over more modern day racing.