"They Shall Not Grow Old" Peter Jackson's WWI film
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Riley Blue said:
boyse7en said:
Anyone seen this know if it is likely to be ok for a 12 year old?
There are close ups of bodies, both men and horses, and being in colour I think they're unsuitable for children. There's also a scene of horses being shelled which I found difficult to sit and watch. It would be good if an edited version suitable for school viewing could be made, perhaps it will.
silverfoxcc said:
If only we could put them in a room together to slug it out. I know people sign up voluntarily nowadays ,but in my view it is to defend their country, not have fire fights with countries who are no no danger to us. esp over the last years. JUst because some areshole thinks it is a good idea. The Flaklands was a just war Afghanistan AND Iran i have my doubts. ..Oh it was about the oil.
Politicians... i would shoot the frigging lot..spineless b
ds 99% of them
Not much oil , or indeed any oil at all , in Afghanistan ...Politicians... i would shoot the frigging lot..spineless b
ds 99% of themAnd do remind me , when we were at war with Iran ?
Falklands (I do like 'Flaklands' ) , arguably there was a case for it , even though I doubt if 1% of the people who became consumed by patriotic fervour even knew where it was . I did like Jorge Luis Borges's description of the Falklands war - 'Two bald men fighting over a comb'
Watching his masterpiece I just can’t help but wonder what would happen if the same was asked of today’s millennials. Ok ok easy to criticise etc, and a different time but part of me visualises a bunch of pussies hiding away cradling their iPhones as shells fly by overhead. The older generation just strike me as being tougher. Well I guess they had no choice.
I keep asking this. All my best friends (5) have had issues with depression (is it me?)
But me grandfather spent 3 years in the trenches and worked as a butcher for the next few decades and just got on with it.
Were we (they) different then ? I don’t know
My dad did 3 years in the RM Commandoes in WWII and he was ok. Died last December at 93
But I think an element of MTFU is needed
But me grandfather spent 3 years in the trenches and worked as a butcher for the next few decades and just got on with it.
Were we (they) different then ? I don’t know
My dad did 3 years in the RM Commandoes in WWII and he was ok. Died last December at 93
But I think an element of MTFU is needed
Wow. That was an amazing film to watch, my grandad was in the Sth Wales borderers and then the Monmouthshire regiment during the great war and so was unlucky enough to be front line at the Somme as a pioneer. My parents said he suffered terrible shell shock for the rest of his life, although he got on with it.
What a brutal, violent and wasteful war that was. I am grateful to Peter Jackson for devoting the time and effort to produce soemting that gave me a snapshot of what it was really like for those lads.
Never forget. R.I.P. to all those who fell.
What a brutal, violent and wasteful war that was. I am grateful to Peter Jackson for devoting the time and effort to produce soemting that gave me a snapshot of what it was really like for those lads.
Never forget. R.I.P. to all those who fell.
Schmed said:
Watching his masterpiece I just can’t help but wonder what would happen if the same was asked of today’s millennials. Ok ok easy to criticise etc, and a different time but part of me visualises a bunch of pussies hiding away cradling their iPhones as shells fly by overhead. The older generation just strike me as being tougher. Well I guess they had no choice.
You need to watch Our War.https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01tbkqk/episodes...
Also eye opening, the German soldier especially so with his comments about normal men and cruelty
Also eye opening, the German soldier especially so with his comments about normal men and cruelty
The frame rate smoothing and the image cleanup really worked well, removed the disconnect that you get from the old cine footage.
Colourisation mostly worked, but some of it was pretty ropey. As in strong colours on bits of uniform (badges etc.) floating around like a bit of dodgy CGI. Which I guess is what it was.
Great bit of work as a film between the voiceovers and the footage.
Colourisation mostly worked, but some of it was pretty ropey. As in strong colours on bits of uniform (badges etc.) floating around like a bit of dodgy CGI. Which I guess is what it was.
Great bit of work as a film between the voiceovers and the footage.
0a said:
61GT said:
Quite an extraordinary programme.
The reaction of civilians to those returning from war seemed sadly to be like so many other conflicts.
Agreed. Quite something. The reaction of civilians to those returning from war seemed sadly to be like so many other conflicts.
I don't think we can judge, we weren't there, they were different times.
It's irrelevant as to whether today's snowflakes would cope, it's unlikely they would, but then, they don't have to.
I expected it to be quite hard hitting and it was, of course it was, it was real and more realistic than it has ever been to me .
Jonesy23 said:
Colourisation mostly worked, but some of it was pretty ropey. As in strong colours on bits of uniform (badges etc.) floating around like a bit of dodgy CGI. Which I guess is what it was.
As were many instances of wrong colours for objects, but I overlooked those things as it would be churlish to nit-pick to that degree in the light of what the film was trying to achieve, and I think that it did that amazingly well, and was a fine tribute to the lost generation, and as a powerful educational film for todays generations, and all future ones.If I was to make one serious criticism it was regards the speed at which the end credits rolled through the names and details of the veterans that had been recorded by the BBC half a century ago, and used as the narrative, there just wasn't time to read through them before the next lot appeared....given it was about them, they should have been the priority at the end credits. I noticed at least one of them was a VC winner.
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