Avengers: Endgame

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SpudLink said:

I’m also 53, and I’m hoping for at least another 2 or 3 decade long story arcs.

It's tough, I can see a few issues going forward. Feig seems to want to keep things under his control, which is good, and he seems to have the swing, which is good. As the uni grows though, it'll need one hell of a continuity coordinator. I would have thought moving forward the central pivot of the Avengers will change. I like the idea of a cosmic threat, and a more low down threat. The huge crossover is something I'll still look forward to, but it may not be in the same vein as Endgame.
It's still all new territory!

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I don't think the time travel will be used too much, at least not in bringing dead'uns back, since the rules explained in Endgame keep the time stream linear. Possibly splitting reality into other universes.
How was time travel cracked? By Stark, who's now dead, and Pym is super protective of pym particles, I don't see him giving those up...possibly not even to his daughter. So the only TT devices that exist are the bracelets that connect to that big thing that was used at the end of Endgame.
Having said that, I expect dimensional stuff to be happening in Wandavision, Loki and Doc Strange 2.

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My perosnal choice would be that they have several streams now and just relax a bit, but I feel they'll push more on the, 'you need to watch them all'...but I'm not sure. I hope I get it more my way, because like the comics, I only really wanna know about a few.

lemmingjames said:

Which is quite neat touch so i wonder if Endgame bits and pieces had already been written in advance

They leave themselves 'windows', in which they can pop back and connect the possibilities. Like Agent Carter's husband. I read that they had it in mind it could be one of three, Cap was always one of the three, they went that way in the end. Like Schrodinger's cat, you don't know till you know.

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Scabutz said:

stew-STR160 said:

Does it?

Perhaps Tony using "1000 lightyears" was not meaning a literal 1000, rather, a large number, considering the size of the universe.

Captain Marvel was busy doing other stuff in the galaxy and universe, kinda explained somewhat in the movie.

Mostly I think its a plot device to keep the powerful ones away from Thanos, otherwise the battles would be silly. In IW they had to keep Thor away from right near the end and he all but killed Thanos in the final battle, then they mad him fat and out of it in EG. Scarlett Witch had to be dusted and Captain Marvel had to be kept away otherwise they each could have won and that wasn't what they wanted in the story.

I thought Tony and Nebula were in orbit around Titan? That's where the fight in IW happened.
Thor was also badly beaten and left for dead by THanos at the start of IW, he was no match at all...can't quote recall the details of IW, but he srats to understand what is onside him as the heir/ruler of Asgard...I think. same with Scarlet Witch, she is in the infancy of her powers, she's only had them for a couple of years.
As for Marvel, she's a late addition and I think they may have cocked up a bit there.

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lemmingjames said:

Or reboot it again

or spiderman vs venom though the next venom film is meant to be Venom vs Carnage

A reboot, apparently would require another origin story. Sony would feel the full force of fan backlash then.
The lawyers will be onto whether still using Tom Holland would be a reboot.

decent chat at
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

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That was possible...and maybe probable a few years ago when Sony films was in the stter (GB remake) and Sony base was thinking about offloading it. But with the fix deal Disney is feeling the pinch and recent whistleblowing in their shady economic practises at parks has stung them

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Antony Moxey said:

Why? Surely everyone knows the origin by now without needing a back story even if it is a reboot. Just go into a new series of standalone films with a new cast, an origin film wouldn’t add anything.

It’s in the contract, it was another incentive to allow Spidey into the MCU.

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lemmingjames said:

Live action version featuring miles from into the spider verse. Origin story already solved, another non-white lead character etc

I reckon that'd be a reboot, unless it's the same actor.

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just brilliant

Avengers: Endgame but it’s “I Need a Hero” from Shrek 2
Live Breathe Media
https://youtu.be/Mqsb-9iHCi0

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JagLover said:

Just got around to seeing this movie on Blu Ray and I think towards the end they are just showing the direction Marvel are going to go now they have got rid of many of the original characters.

I regard it as fair warning for the future rather than something that ruined this movie. Guardians of the Galaxy looks like it will be better than ever with Thor joining them and if he gets bored with them he can team up with the true Hulk as in Thor 3. As for the rest of the new Marvel movies think I will give it a miss thanks

Well James GUnn is back in charge at GotG3, so it should still be fun, and Taika is in charge of THor4, and Thor3 was good fun (non Asgard bits). Black Widow has a Winter Soldier vibe (which was one of my faves). THe big unknown is THe Eternals. An obscure 70s comic updated for today. I'm actually rather interested in that one, as I know little about it and have no investment in the characters.

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SpudLink said:

So, just like the Guardians of the Galaxy.

My mate is working all hours in Eternals at the moment. (Although it’s hard to have sympathy when he gets to spend time with Angelina Jolie.)

I did think of that but knew it wouldn't need pointing out to nerds.
I like the lead of Eternals, have mixed feelings on Jon SNow as Black KNight, but I hope it's good.
And ANgelina....
what does your mate do?

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JagLover said:

Black Widow should have had her own movie before now. Seems a bit strange to have one, after her character has been killed off. It will have a tendency to seem like some of the Babylon 5 TV movies made after the show and shoehorned in, with action without consequences because we already know all the key characters survive. As one YouTube comment video said, right movie wrong time.

As I said looking forward to new Guardians movie.

Thor 4- Natalie Portman as Thor . Who not only looks like she would struggle to lift a basic claw hammer was also fairly wooden her last outing in the MCU. If that is their "new direction" count me out of those sorts of movies.

I'm off the reverse opinion about out of time movies. I wouldn't expect the titular character to die in a film anyway (unless MCU were really experiment or it was the fourth or something), but it can be chance to experience characters that are dead (I'm gonan guess there's a big cameo in it), plus I'm really interested in what they do with the russian Captain AMerica, Red Guardian.
As for THor 4 I see it as win/win. If it stinks we won't get anymore of that and if it's ace, then ace! I'm also hoping for some sort of Beta Ray Bill inclusion.

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SpudLink said:

I’m not sure everyone noticed in Thor Ragnarok, the Hulk was living in a tower with Beta Ray Bill’s face carved on it. Personally I hope they ignore this so he can have a proper origin.

I never noticed when I watched it but saw it later on a yt video (Gladiator is also there?). I've watched the cartoon film of Planet Hulk, BRB takes the SIlver Surfer's place as the champion, which Hulk takes in Thor3, a nice reversal. A champion of Sakaar automatically puts him on a level with Hulk/THor, it'd be pretty good.

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I'm not sure if the writers and directors have different opinions, but I also read that they had three people in mind for who Peggy would marry and Cap was one of them, that's how they seeded it earlier on. If one listens to the dialogue of Peggy on her deathbed in Cap2, it does also make sense if she is already married to Cap. I think.
I'm hoping that Dr Strange 2 explains stuff...or WandaVision.