How do you use PCP?

How do you use PCP?

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petrolhead4

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230 posts

66 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Car-Matt

1,923 posts

138 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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What does it matter?

Car-Matt

1,923 posts

138 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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:-)

Seriously though I see a lot of PCP talk on here and some folk seem to think they have the moral high ground by either running sheds, using a bank loan or buying for cash as opposed to PCP.

I find the fascination with how other people fund their cars utterly bizarre if i'm honest.

InitialDave

11,902 posts

119 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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I'd happily do either, depending on the specifics of the car and my circumstances etc.

LarsG

991 posts

75 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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PCP is ideal for people who can't afford to buy the car in the first place.

Superleg48

1,524 posts

133 months

Monday 21st January 2019
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Smells like Market Research to me....

antnee

33 posts

152 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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There is a few angles for me;

- getting you into a newer/better car which should be more reliable and not need as much maintenance. As an example, I worked out how much the maintenance on a Alfa 147 was over the 2 years I had it which averaged out at £110 a month. That then begs the question, why bother with older cars?
- If you have the cash in the bank, could you make more money on it elsewhere than the interest charges of a PCP deal? If you are sinking 30k on a Golf R on a 3 year PCP I bet you could make a better return investing that 30k.
- Better deals are available on PCP compared to cash. My FIL tends to put down around 90% deposits on a car and has a tiny bit on finance to take advantage of any manufacturer offers and also the salesman is likely to be more flexible


There is no right or wrong way of purchasing/owning a vehicle, those who want to have the same car for longer than 3 years will be better off on a HP or outright cash deal. Those who like to swap often are better with PCP or PCH deals. The people who might have changing circumstances are best looking at cash or PCP with larger deposits incase they need to change/sell early.

tickedon

121 posts

77 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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B.

Butter Face

30,308 posts

160 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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LarsG said:
PCP is ideal for people who can't afford to buy the car in the first place.
31 minutes. Must be a new record rofl

I, for one, am so very glad we’re having another PCP discussion. Bravo.

HustleRussell

24,701 posts

160 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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petrolhead4 said:
Simple question.

a. Do you use PCP to finance a car that you wouldn't otherwise have the cash for in bank? (i.e finance a £25,000 car with £15,000 in bank)

b. Do you use PCP to finance a car that you could otherwise pay in cash but would rather keep that cash for other purposes (i.e. finance a £25,000 with £50,000 in bank)
Either / or.

And affordability is a function of your income and outgoings, not the amount of cash you have in the bank. Large sums of money sat in the bank is a prime example of financial illiteracy.

Baldchap

7,636 posts

92 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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LarsG said:
PCP is ideal for people who can't afford to buy the car in the first place.
So explain to me why I initially wanted to PCP the Tesla, but in the end paid in full?

kiethton

13,895 posts

180 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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We used PCP to get the dealer discount and then took a personal loan a few days later to withdraw from the agreement.

syl

693 posts

75 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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If you can afford PCP, you can usually afford HP (or a bank loan) over double the timeframe (which might not be available from the manufacturer but will definitely be available elsewhere).

silentbrown

8,838 posts

116 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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c: Just to take advantage of the deposit contribution, then immediately pay off the loan



Joe5y

1,501 posts

183 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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I'm still struggling to understand how a PCP is attractive to anyone? To buy a c£22,500 car the total repayment could be c£30,000 with limited mileage - why would you write off £7,500 if you could afford the car in the first place? Or is it as stated only for people who can't afford the car?

silentbrown

8,838 posts

116 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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Joe5y said:
I'm still struggling to understand how a PCP is attractive to anyone? To buy a c£22,500 car the total repayment could be c£30,000 with limited mileage - why would you write off £7,500 if you could afford the car in the first place? Or is it as stated only for people who can't afford the car?
"I'm still struggling to understand how a mortgage is attractive to anyone? To buy a c£400,000 house the total repayment could be c£500,000 - why would you write off £100,000 if you could afford the house in the first place? Or is it as stated only for people who can't afford the house?"

Kuji

785 posts

122 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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LarsG said:
PCP is ideal for people who can't afford to buy the car in the first place.
The same as a bank loan then, huh?

They are ideal for people don't have the required ££'s sitting in an account, as they can borrow it and pay back over instalments at an interest rate.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

261 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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Car-Matt said:
:-)

Seriously though I see a lot of PCP talk on here and some folk seem to think they have the moral high ground by either running sheds, using a bank loan or buying for cash as opposed to PCP.

I find the fascination with how other people fund their cars utterly bizarre if i'm honest.
This is a motoring forum, most of us spend more time than is healthy working out what car we'd like to acquire next and how we could scrape the cash together. So naturally we are as interested in comparing finance options as teenage boys are in how to unhook a bra.

antnee

33 posts

152 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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Joe5y said:
I'm still struggling to understand how a PCP is attractive to anyone? To buy a c£22,500 car the total repayment could be c£30,000 with limited mileage - why would you write off £7,500 if you could afford the car in the first place? Or is it as stated only for people who can't afford the car?
For those with a little bit of financial and accounting knowledge understand why PCP is an attractive offer. Also, read more about the product before stating lines like 'limited mileage'.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

261 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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antnee said:
Joe5y said:
I'm still struggling to understand how a PCP is attractive to anyone? To buy a c£22,500 car the total repayment could be c£30,000 with limited mileage - why would you write off £7,500 if you could afford the car in the first place? Or is it as stated only for people who can't afford the car?
For those with a little bit of financial and accounting knowledge understand why PCP is an attractive offer. Also, read more about the product before stating lines like 'limited mileage'.
I've got quite a bit of financial and accounting knowledge and letters after my name to prove it, and PCP doesn't look attractive to me all other things (discounts etc) vaguely equal.