Patrick Stewart to return as Picard
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Jut finished watching. Thoroughly, Thoroughly enjoyed it. Didn't mind the first couple of series but they felt a bit "flat" somehow, not really "proper" Trek. But Season three was classic stuff! Endless Easter Eggs & hefty nods to series past. I'm now in a dilemma, they've really hit their stride with season 3, really found the sweet spot & signed off with an absolutely perfect "fairwell". However it was so good, I'd really like some more! What to do!?
Arnold Cunningham said:
My solution to that is I've just started watching The Next Generation from Series 1, Episode 1. Have to say, they acting wasn't great back in 1987, was it.
It's very hammy initially, Tasha Yar especially is an appalling actor but I think she probably wasn't chosen for her acting ability, she was an ex playboy model so firmly in the eye candy department. The rest actually get much better as the seasons progress.Guvernator said:
Arnold Cunningham said:
My solution to that is I've just started watching The Next Generation from Series 1, Episode 1. Have to say, they acting wasn't great back in 1987, was it.
It's very hammy initially, Tasha Yar especially is an appalling actor but I think she probably wasn't chosen for her acting ability, she was an ex playboy model so firmly in the eye candy department. The rest actually get much better as the seasons progress."Roddenberry "virtually rewrote" the first 15 episodes because of his "dogmatic" intention to depict human interaction "without drawing on the baser motives of greed, lust, and power". Writers found the show's "bible" constricting and ridiculous and could not deal with Roddenberry's ego and treatment of them"
Things improve a lot from season 2 and get really good with the later klingon story arcs (lust, greed, power )
DS9 develop on this even more (with the Ferengi taking greed to literally religious levels) and is the best of the shows IMO
Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Tuesday 2nd May 16:25
Dave Hedgehog said:
the first season is dreadful, mostly because of the hippy ideals of roddenbury
"Roddenberry "virtually rewrote" the first 15 episodes because of his "dogmatic" intention to depict human interaction "without drawing on the baser motives of greed, lust, and power". Writers found the show's "bible" constricting and ridiculous and could not deal with Roddenberry's ego and treatment of them"
Things improve a lot from season 2 and get really good with the later klingon story arcs (lust, greed, power )
DS9 develop on this even more (with the Ferengi taking greed to literally religious levels) and is the best of the shows IMO
If you’re going to talk st about Gene Roddenberry, learn his name."Roddenberry "virtually rewrote" the first 15 episodes because of his "dogmatic" intention to depict human interaction "without drawing on the baser motives of greed, lust, and power". Writers found the show's "bible" constricting and ridiculous and could not deal with Roddenberry's ego and treatment of them"
Things improve a lot from season 2 and get really good with the later klingon story arcs (lust, greed, power )
DS9 develop on this even more (with the Ferengi taking greed to literally religious levels) and is the best of the shows IMO
Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Tuesday 2nd May 16:25
After Picard it makes sense to watch/rewatch TNG. I never realised they restored/updated it to HD (available on Netflix) which makes a massive difference over DS9 or Voy so I'd start there.
As said, the first season or two are a bit cheesy but still worth it. Blows my mind we had this AND the films with Kirk coming out at the same time (I was two young to see them in the cinema).
As said, the first season or two are a bit cheesy but still worth it. Blows my mind we had this AND the films with Kirk coming out at the same time (I was two young to see them in the cinema).
Enterprise rarely gets recommended even now but some of Enterprise matches the best Trek elsewhere and it's poor eps are no worse than TNG's or the others. Many new fans have hopped on board thanks to streaming, and realised it wasn't anything like as bad as the rep it had when fans had ST fatigue from 1 series after another back then.
Well worth giving another go to.
Well worth giving another go to.
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