Patrick Stewart to return as Picard

[skwdenyer]

rider73 said:

(IMHO) its balls - watching TNG on PICK TV could not be more different, its just this has the same actors but not the same Star Trek (whereas Discovery had neither) , lets face it the world wasnt great when OS & TNG was on the air originally, but it subtly dealt with issues with giving us hope that we are/will be better - in essence that is why ST was so successful and has such a long legacy and why it was watched bazillion of times and people wanted to be assocaited with it and enjoy it , watch it as a kid, watch it with your kids, all good..... not this new tripe we are dealt with of "hard realities" with a shiny gloss of lens flare and music and throw in a nostalgic lazy lines and music to go with it to tie it in with the original.

Producers and writers should stop being cowards and create a new SciFi show with these themes if you want them, instead of wrecking an exising franchise just to get immediate easy money and viewing figures.

Isn’t the more relevant takeaway that even the ST universe is prone to the same fears and insular thinking that plague present day earth? That bold outward-looking idealism can come crashing down just as quickly then as now?

SciFi is notorious for portraying a future that’s a more advanced form of “now.” Perhaps the fact that this ST future seems so much less hopeful should be a wake-up call rather than a reason for opprobrium towards the writers?

[AlexC1981]

I have a feeling that the way the last season of Discovery ended means it is set to become a series similar to Voyager.

I never expected Picard to be a typical Star Trek series. He's too old to captain a starship any more, so if he is to be the central character it has to be a different type of show. I'm enjoying it simply as a story set in the Star Trek universe, but it is jarring how all these people who were once young and optimistic have ended up dead, unhappy or a bit psycho.

I just realised the actor who plays Rios played Aramis in the BBC's The Musketeers. I knew I'd seen him somewhere before.

[kowalski655]

He was also Darius in "Salvation"

[MBBlat]

SWoll said:

Another to add to the list of recent shows/movies that should have been good fun but instead have fallen foul to current trends in the media and seem more concerned with their 'message' than good writing and actually entertaining the audience.

So which incarnation of trek are you talking about here, as that spin can be put on all of them from TOS on?

As a long time sc-fi fan I'm enjoying Picard.

[Carl_Manchester]

Rumblestripe said:

frisbee said:

It's great.

And the nerd rage is the cherry on top!

This.

It's enjoyable. A little slow perhaps but it's holding my interest. There are a few niggles like the Chateau now appearing as a "holodeck" within the ship is a lazy set design cop out, which is a shame as I quite like the look of the rest of the ship including the rather utilitarian bridge area. I guess we now have 7 along as the murderous killing machine. "Bourbon straight up" Ooh she's hard! A bit stale perhaps but we get the picture.

A special thanks to everyone who contributes to this thread to tell us they stopped watching after three nano seconds of episode one. Well done. And thanks for letting us know. Really...

our house is really enjoying Picard.

[TPSA7514]

Carl_Manchester said:

our house is really enjoying Picard.

Sounds like your house is a very very very fine house
The end of the day it's just a TV show. I am currently catching episodes of Discovery at stupid o'clock (UK time).
It's interesting

[Timperley]

Yes, have enjoyed Picard so far, and Discovery too. Looking forward to the third series of the latter.

[Catatafish]

Pretty good plot device introduced this week, which would have been quite useful to evacuate Romulus. Did Kurtzmann just self destruct his own premise and disappear up his own singularity?

Hats off to the guy. He's earned a fortune producing absolute dross.

[Morningside]

Still enjoying it. Some obvious directions in places but it's still watchable.

[AlexC1981]

I thought it was a solid episode, I'm enjoying seeing the story come together.

Catatafish said:

Pretty good plot device introduced this week, which would have been quite useful to evacuate Romulus. Did Kurtzmann just self destruct his own premise and disappear up his own singularity?

Hats off to the guy. He's earned a fortune producing absolute dross.

There has been more than one episode of Star Trek where advanced alien long distance transporter technology has been used. It isn't a new plot device just for this episode.

The one on the Borg cube does not appear suitable for transporting hundreds of thousands of people at a time and anyway, they probably did not know about it or have access to it 12 years ago.

[sparks_190e]

Okay. Episode 6 was good. Not great, but pretty good.

[Catatafish]

AlexC1981 said:

I thought it was a solid episode, I'm enjoying seeing the story come together.

Catatafish said:

Pretty good plot device introduced this week, which would have been quite useful to evacuate Romulus. Did Kurtzmann just self destruct his own premise and disappear up his own singularity?

Hats off to the guy. He's earned a fortune producing absolute dross.

There has been more than one episode of Star Trek where advanced alien long distance transporter technology has been used. It isn't a new plot device just for this episode.

The one on the Borg cube does not appear suitable for transporting hundreds of thousands of people at a time and anyway, they probably did not know about it or have access to it 12 years ago.

...and Picard/Sisko previously destroyed such portals at any cost to stop them falling into enemy hands.

The borg could assimilate anywhere without opposition, yet they couldn't be bothered?

You can join the dots to dots to explain the contrivances, so why not say that instead of building thousands of ships, they built thousands of these gateways and evacuated in a couple of days...

Edited by Catatafish on Friday 28th February 09:35

[rider73]

Catatafish said:

AlexC1981 said:

I thought it was a solid episode, I'm enjoying seeing the story come together.

Catatafish said:

Pretty good plot device introduced this week, which would have been quite useful to evacuate Romulus. Did Kurtzmann just self destruct his own premise and disappear up his own singularity?

Hats off to the guy. He's earned a fortune producing absolute dross.

There has been more than one episode of Star Trek where advanced alien long distance transporter technology has been used. It isn't a new plot device just for this episode.

The one on the Borg cube does not appear suitable for transporting hundreds of thousands of people at a time and anyway, they probably did not know about it or have access to it 12 years ago.

...and Picard/Sisko previously destroyed such portals at any cost to stop them falling into enemy hands.

The borg could assimilate anywhere without opposition, yet they couldn't be bothered?

You can join the dots to dots to explain the contrivances, so why not say that instead of building thousands of ships, they built thousands of these gateways and evacuated in a couple of days...

Edited by Catatafish on Friday 28th February 09:35

dont worry about all this nonsense - add lens flares, an f-bomb and and keep the thing going, no one will notice
(the same way Discovery went)

[ChocolateFrog]

I'm coming to the conclusion it's a bit st.

I'm not invested in any of the characters.

Best bit was the nod to Voyager and the Spacial Trajector.

[dudleybloke]

It's actually a Samurai Jack prequel series

[Sophisticated Sarah]

ChocolateFrog said:

I'm coming to the conclusion it's a bit st.

I'm not invested in any of the characters.

Best bit was the nod to Voyager and the Spacial Trajector.

It’s 6 episodes in now? I feel like we’ve had half an episode of content stretched to fill the time.

It’s interesting, but there’s a lot of filler. Unfortunately they make these shows to make money rather than entertain so drag them out.

[Flip Martian]

Sophisticated Sarah said:

It’s 6 episodes in now? I feel like we’ve had half an episode of content stretched to fill the time.

It’s interesting, but there’s a lot of filler. Unfortunately they make these shows to make money rather than entertain so drag them out.

I wonder if this is a consequence of having 1 story across 10 episodes, rather than the old style "film a story a week" and maybe having writers who really aren't up to the job.

[768]

I'm still watching, but barely paying any attention. Hoping it picks up.

[irocfan]

personally I felt that E6 was a lot better than E5 (not that that would've been hard!). As said previously, not great but still enjoyable

[ben5575]

768 said:

I'm still watching, but barely paying any attention. Hoping it picks up.

Exactly my thoughts. Looked up from the laptop a couple of times through the episode, but that's about it. Only still here through loyalty.