Patrick Stewart to return as Picard
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Catatafish said:
...and Picard/Sisko previously destroyed such portals at any cost to stop them falling into enemy hands.
The borg could assimilate anywhere without opposition, yet they couldn't be bothered?
You can join the dots to dots to explain the contrivances, so why not say that instead of building thousands of ships, they built thousands of these gateways and evacuated in a couple of days...
I don't really think about the show in that level of detail whist I'm watching it The borg could assimilate anywhere without opposition, yet they couldn't be bothered?
You can join the dots to dots to explain the contrivances, so why not say that instead of building thousands of ships, they built thousands of these gateways and evacuated in a couple of days...
Edited by Catatafish on Friday 28th February 09:35
but who knows why the borg do what they do? Why do they only ever send one cube? Transporters can be blocked by "dampening fields" or whatever. Perhaps they can't replicate the borg technology. When Voyager acquired a transwarp coil they could only use it for so long. And anyway, the simplest explanation is they didn't have access or know about the transporter 12 years ago.
I find my self skipping through the dull parts, now. It's not as if they're even plot exposition or character building - they're just padding.
Although, having said that, where was seven of nine in this week's episode? Did I skip through something important? Do I even care any more...?
I think my biggest disappointment is that there's nothing fundamentally new in it. Just lots of well-trodden generic sci-fi tropes mushed together with the odd bit of Picard. None of the character or soul of Star Trek...
Although, having said that, where was seven of nine in this week's episode? Did I skip through something important? Do I even care any more...?
I think my biggest disappointment is that there's nothing fundamentally new in it. Just lots of well-trodden generic sci-fi tropes mushed together with the odd bit of Picard. None of the character or soul of Star Trek...
kowalski655 said:
They do seem to be bouncing about locations a lot,even with transporter tech it's:"go to a planet,do something in 1 episode,next planet rinse, repeat"!
Who is the Hugh bloke?
To be fair, that's 60 years of Star Trek summed up to a T.Who is the Hugh bloke?
Why expect more from Star Trek:Picard?
Corso Marche said:
kowalski655 said:
They do seem to be bouncing about locations a lot,even with transporter tech it's:"go to a planet,do something in 1 episode,next planet rinse, repeat"!
Who is the Hugh bloke?
Hugh was a Borg drone, rescued by the TNG crew who had been separated from the Collective.Who is the Hugh bloke?
The plan was to infect him with a virus so that when he was reassimilated by the Borg would damage their collective link and make them a lot less dangerous.
Star Fleet thought it was a great idea and Picard did too, at least initially.
cologne2792 said:
Hugh was a Borg drone, rescued by the TNG crew who had been separated from the Collective.
The plan was to infect him with a virus so that when he was reassimilated by the Borg would damage their collective link and make them a lot less dangerous.
Star Fleet thought it was a great idea and Picard did too, at least initially.
Hugh also appeared later on when Data teamed up with Lore, at which point we found out Hugh was leading a group of ‘rebel’ Borg. So it does all tie inThe plan was to infect him with a virus so that when he was reassimilated by the Borg would damage their collective link and make them a lot less dangerous.
Star Fleet thought it was a great idea and Picard did too, at least initially.
AlexC1981 said:
I don't really think about the show in that level of detail whist I'm watching it but who knows why the borg do what they do? Why do they only ever send one cube? Transporters can be blocked by "dampening fields" or whatever.
Perhaps they can't replicate the borg technology. When Voyager acquired a transwarp coil they could only use it for so long. And anyway, the simplest explanation is they didn't have access or know about the transporter 12 years ago.
You do understand that we're discussing the episode AFTER watching it though? I wasn't posting during the episode... thoughts ... can... happen... after. but who knows why the borg do what they do? Why do they only ever send one cube? Transporters can be blocked by "dampening fields" or whatever. Perhaps they can't replicate the borg technology. When Voyager acquired a transwarp coil they could only use it for so long. And anyway, the simplest explanation is they didn't have access or know about the transporter 12 years ago.
The Borg aren't real - the writers make them 'do' their stuff. Stories have to be contrived to some degree to create drama. There's a continuous spectrum of how well this is done. From lashed together drivel to award winning, gripping films and TV. I don't think Picard is on course for any awards, unless there's a category of best generic space fighting squad with old geezer lurking in the background.
Patrick Stewart went through the magic door. Presumably a lazy way to get him into Riker's cottage for earl grey. It's fine if your brain forgets about the magic door immediately, but if not, it's a complete WTF. One of about a thousand WTFs presented during this series so far.
Guvernator said:
They've used countless magic doors and all sorts of pseudo science hand waving in every series of Star Trek to date so I'm not sure why people are using that to pick holes in this one, it's pretty much a Star Trek tradition.
+ this one comes from the Sikarians (Voyager - Hugh mentions the Borg assimilated them), so at least it sits within canon 
) Lentilist said:
I'm wanting to enjoy it, I really am, but it's hard work. Just not relating to any of the characters in the way I have in previous iterations. Few little things in Picard (Maddox and Data, primarily) have made me dip back into TNG, and it's striking how much better it is.
Lentilist, spot on. Im trying to like it as I loved most of the different Star Trek chapters but its quite challenging. What it has done has got me watching TNG episodes again. :-) Taken me back to my university years when I religiously watched them.The one thing that gets me about Picard is that there's clearly enough characters who could've had far more development and filled it out to a 24 episode season, which would've also allowed for better storytelling and reduced the need for speed and convenience in many aspects of the story so far.
I'm still enjoying it very much, but feel it could've also been much more. Whether it would've made a return on investment for a long-season tv show is another question however.
Anyway, enjoyed this week's episode also, but more darkness so presumably there'll be grumbling about it not being ST etc.
I'm still enjoying it very much, but feel it could've also been much more. Whether it would've made a return on investment for a long-season tv show is another question however.
Anyway, enjoyed this week's episode also, but more darkness so presumably there'll be grumbling about it not being ST etc.
Corso Marche said:
The one thing that gets me about Picard is that there's clearly enough characters who could've had far more development and filled it out to a 24 episode season, which would've also allowed for better storytelling and reduced the need for speed and convenience in many aspects of the story so far.
I'm still enjoying it very much, but feel it could've also been much more. Whether it would've made a return on investment for a long-season tv show is another question however.
Anyway, enjoyed this week's episode also, but more darkness so presumably there'll be grumbling about it not being ST etc.
Also very handy how Picard told Hugh the planet they wanted to go to and they landed/arrived within a few hundred yards of Will & Deanna’s house!I'm still enjoying it very much, but feel it could've also been much more. Whether it would've made a return on investment for a long-season tv show is another question however.
Anyway, enjoyed this week's episode also, but more darkness so presumably there'll be grumbling about it not being ST etc.
MissChief said:
Also very handy how Picard told Hugh the planet they wanted to go to and they landed/arrived within a few hundred yards of Will & Deanna’s house!
Yes, because what teh story needed was a long episode of Picard and Soji catching the train to Ryker's house, perhaps a taxi to the station or they materialised in the middle of a desert and died of dehydration before they could find help, THE END. This isn't exactly a plot contrivance new to story telling. Gassing Station | TV, Film, Video Streaming & Radio | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff