BBC Top Gear Thread 2021/2022

[WestyCarl]

trickywoo said:

If you decide to climb up a ladder in wellies and then fall off because of that decision yes.

Where has personal responsibility gone? Did you know that if a postman takes a van out from the garage with bald tyres its on them?

There is obviously third party negligence which is a different matter. Seems unlikely in this particular case to me.

So without any knowledge (unless you have an inside sccop) this accident was his fault and the BBC / Morgan Cars bear no responsibility at all......

[TTmonkey]

Fred is what, 6’4” or so, and bulky high up….. and he’s got a massive head if you remember then trying to fit a helmet on him once…! so probably the worst build for driving a Morgan 3 wheeler. CoG was probably way too high.

I heard he’s at least bust his jaw, but if that’s the case he’s probably done far more soft tissue damage. I’m sure if it was minor we would have seen him showing off his battle damage.


Hope he’s ok.

[carlo996]

FF's employment contract will have been written by a legal professional. If the BBC were to allow any of the guys carrying out stunts to do this without some serious disclaimers then I would be amazed. it would be very unusual for a presenter to sue the corporation, given that the stunts were carried out willingly and that FF has form for pushing the boundaries. I think it wouldn't go well for him.

[carlo996]

ajap1979 said:

trickywoo said:

ajap1979 said:

Fundoreen said:

All the silence probably means he's going down the 'had an accident that wasn't your fault?' route.

It's this unfortunately. He's suing them.

He doesn't need the money though so whats the motive?

Everyone should just move on.

Emotional and physical trauma apparently.

Source?

[Common Porpoise]

said:

Is driving a three wheeled clown conveyance around a purpose made track now classed a "stunt"? Makes Sense tbh.

[ajap1979]

carlo996 said:

ajap1979 said:

trickywoo said:

ajap1979 said:

Fundoreen said:

All the silence probably means he's going down the 'had an accident that wasn't your fault?' route.

It's this unfortunately. He's suing them.

He doesn't need the money though so whats the motive?

Everyone should just move on.

Emotional and physical trauma apparently.

Source?

Can't reveal that unfortunately, but let's just say it's common knowledge within the corporation.

[Blown2CV]

he did that TV programme about being bulimic didn't he? He's suffered with mental health issues at times, but i am not sure it's the main reason with this.

[trickywoo]

ajap1979 said:

Emotional and physical trauma apparently.

If I flipped my motorbike on the way to work due to overestimating my ability I’d have emotional and physical trauma also. Do you know how many people I would expect to pay me out?

[WestyCarl]

trickywoo said:

ajap1979 said:

Emotional and physical trauma apparently.

If I flipped my motorbike on the way to work due to overestimating my ability I’d have emotional and physical trauma also. Do you know how many people I would expect to pay me out?

And I'm sure iof Freddie crashed on the way to work he would think the same.

[Blackpuddin]

MDifficult said:

Blackpuddin said:

It needed to be raised, he was short on personality.

Again, with the benefit of some hindsight I think that's a little unfair. The stuff he did before and since TG shows the guy is chock-full of personality (but you have to be on Youtube to see any of it). I think he probably felt he needed to 'tone it down' for the big job on the BBC and maybe went a little too far but he's a good egg.

More than happy to give you benefit of the doubt on that as I've studiously avoided watching anything with him in it since he left TG.

[Blackpuddin]

Common Porpoise said:

said:

Is driving a three wheeled clown conveyance around a purpose made track now classed a "stunt"? Makes Sense tbh.

I'd say driving a three-wheeler becomes a stunt activity at a surprisingly low speed.

[Blackpuddin]

Common Porpoise said:

I came here to say that after watching Tiff's close shave on fifth gear a few years back I don't think Morgans have any business being on a track whatsoever. They aren't proper cars and should not be driven hard under any circumstances, if things go wrong you are in deep trouble.

100 percent this.

[Blackpuddin]

Unfortunately we (and TV presenters) have been conditioned into thinking you can take major liberties with any car and you'll be OK but a Morgan three-wheeler doesn't fit that template.

[Pflanzgarten]

Blackpuddin said:

Common Porpoise said:

I came here to say that after watching Tiff's close shave on fifth gear a few years back I don't think Morgans have any business being on a track whatsoever. They aren't proper cars and should not be driven hard under any circumstances, if things go wrong you are in deep trouble.

100 percent this.

I assume you're meaning Morgan 3 wheelers rather than Morgans as a whole?

[Blackpuddin]

Pflanzgarten said:

Blackpuddin said:

Common Porpoise said:

I came here to say that after watching Tiff's close shave on fifth gear a few years back I don't think Morgans have any business being on a track whatsoever. They aren't proper cars and should not be driven hard under any circumstances, if things go wrong you are in deep trouble.

100 percent this.

I assume you're meaning Morgan 3 wheelers rather than Morgans as a whole?

Of course.

[S600BSB]

Hope FF is OK, but definitely time to put TG out of its misery.

[G Thang]

It'll be an insurance claim, a few million I would think. His solicitors will have told him not to say anything.

[Common Porpoise]

Pflanzgarten said:

I assume you're meaning Morgan 3 wheelers rather than Morgans as a whole?

I was talking about the three wheeled things but having driven an aero 8 i assume they are all diabolical. Why would you ever choose something so unsuitable for the task?

[Pflanzgarten]

Common Porpoise said:

Pflanzgarten said:

I assume you're meaning Morgan 3 wheelers rather than Morgans as a whole?

I was talking about the three wheeled things but having driven an aero 8 i assume they are all diabolical. Why would you ever choose something so unsuitable for the task?

The task of what though? Top Gear drive almost all the cars on the show on the test track, that doesn’t mean they’re track cars.

[toastyhamster]

Common Porpoise said:

Pflanzgarten said:

I assume you're meaning Morgan 3 wheelers rather than Morgans as a whole?

I was talking about the three wheeled things but having driven an aero 8 i assume they are all diabolical. Why would you ever choose something so unsuitable for the task?

Is it just he new ones? My Dad used to take me to Cadwell to watch vintage bike racing (on the back of his Vincent!), Morgan 3 wheelers ran in the sidecar class and they used to hammer round the club hairpin at a fair lick and never looked like tipping. I seem to remember reading they were quite popular race cars back in the day. The only sidecar we saw flip was (I think I recall) a Velocette sidecar with two ladies piloting it who lets say, had plenty of natural cushion to help their fall when the sidecar wheel dug in and they gently tipped over.