BBC Top Gear Thread 2021/2022

[Doofus]

DonkeyApple said:

So you’re saying that there is enough content that you wish to watch being broadcast on terrestrial TV and via iPlayer to justify paying £10/ month to access it as you would pay a similar monthly amount to access Sky, Netflix, Amazon etc?

If there isn’t enough content for that £10/month why would you continue paying it like a gym membership that you never use?

Incidentally, the money raised from the license fee sales doesn’t go to the Trust, it goes to central Govt. central Govt has a separate agreement with the Trust as to how much money from the whole taxpayer pot is allocated to it. It’s disconnected in the same manner as VED is.

So why does the BBC make a point of running taglines that help people to confuse themselves as to how the flow of money works?

I get value from £10 per month (if that's what it costs), yes.

[Blown2CV]

DonkeyApple said:

Driver101 said:

nickwilcock said:

Woeful. What a waste of licence payers' money.

After every episode of TG for ages you've come on to tell us how abysmal it is. Yet you still watch every single week without fail.

I still can't understand why so many people dedicate so much time to a TV show they hate. It's a weird obsession.

Again the people who don't like it are calling it a waste of money and demand for it to be dropped. How can you keep ignoring the fact that it's still watched and enjoyed by millions?

I can’t understand why so many people still pay the license fee when they no longer need to.

if you don't watch broadcast TV and never watch iPlayer then yea fine legally... however i'd argue that morally you should be able to say that you never ever watch BBC content in any capacity if you really want to skip paying the license fee.

[DonkeyApple]

Doofus said:

DonkeyApple said:

So you’re saying that there is enough content that you wish to watch being broadcast on terrestrial TV and via iPlayer to justify paying £10/ month to access it as you would pay a similar monthly amount to access Sky, Netflix, Amazon etc?

If there isn’t enough content for that £10/month why would you continue paying it like a gym membership that you never use?

Incidentally, the money raised from the license fee sales doesn’t go to the Trust, it goes to central Govt. central Govt has a separate agreement with the Trust as to how much money from the whole taxpayer pot is allocated to it. It’s disconnected in the same manner as VED is.

So why does the BBC make a point of running taglines that help people to confuse themselves as to how the flow of money works?

I get value from £10 per month (if that's what it costs), yes.

So do I which is why I don't complain about some of the total cr4p on all those Freeview channels which is clearly not aimed at me but other consumers, just like I don't complain about stuff I have no interest in or don't like on Prime or Netflix.

If Freeview didn't have £10/month worth of content for me then I would simply stop paying the license fee as I would stop watching Freeview/terrestial channels as they were broadcast and just use their on demand services for free, with the exception of iPlayer which wouldn't be legally available.

[Emeye]

I kicked Sky into touch a few months ago as I realised we hardly ever watched it, never mind anything on the BBC. I was keeping it going just for the F1 which no longer felt like it was worth £30 per month.

For the first time since Chris Evans Top Gear I cant be arsed watching it any more, so I assume I can stop paying my licence fee as the family only ever watch stuff on Netflix, Amazon Prime and Youtube?

[Jim on the hill]

Really like Chris Harris but the chavy lad stuff from McGuiness and Flintoff is cringe worthy most of the time.

They are all much better than Evans though.

[DonkeyApple]

Emeye said:

I kicked Sky into touch a few months ago as I realised we hardly ever watched it, never mind anything on the BBC. I was keeping it going just for the F1 which no longer felt like it was worth £30 per month.

For the first time since Chris Evans Top Gear I cant be arsed watching it any more, so I assume I can stop paying my licence fee as the family only ever watch stuff on Netflix, Amazon Prime and Youtube?

Yup. Just unplug the aerial etc. The license is purely for if you want to watch broadcast TV or iPlayer. No need to even convert to being a Freeman of the Land and shouting at pigeons about the fascist agenda.

This is the whole problem the govt face with the current TV License and why it will ultimately evolve into a media license, fewer people have a need to purchase it every day as how we consume media continues to evolve rapidly.

[DonkeyApple]

Blown2CV said:

DonkeyApple said:

Driver101 said:

nickwilcock said:

Woeful. What a waste of licence payers' money.

After every episode of TG for ages you've come on to tell us how abysmal it is. Yet you still watch every single week without fail.

I still can't understand why so many people dedicate so much time to a TV show they hate. It's a weird obsession.

Again the people who don't like it are calling it a waste of money and demand for it to be dropped. How can you keep ignoring the fact that it's still watched and enjoyed by millions?

I can’t understand why so many people still pay the license fee when they no longer need to.

if you don't watch broadcast TV and never watch iPlayer then yea fine legally... however i'd argue that morally you should be able to say that you never ever watch BBC content in any capacity if you really want to skip paying the license fee.

Why? It’s the great confusion. What is the true link between the BBC and the fee that you pay?

[Doofus]

DonkeyApple said:

Why? It’s the great confusion. What is the true link between the BBC and the fee that you pay?

Regardless of transparency, the 'true link' is that you legally have to buy a tv license to watch BBC television.

The argument about specifically how it's funded is for to have with the government, not the viewers.

[anonymous-user]

I thought it was ok, standard stuff, but made me smile.

As for the BBC, they could disappear tomorrow, insidious old boys club.

[Doofus]

yonex said:

As for the BBC, they could disappear tomorrow, insidious old boys club.

In what way insidious?

[DonkeyApple]

Doofus said:

DonkeyApple said:

Why? It’s the great confusion. What is the true link between the BBC and the fee that you pay?

Regardless of transparency, the 'true link' is that you legally have to buy a tv license to watch BBC television.

The argument about specifically how it's funded is for to have with the government, not the viewers.

Yup but if you don’t think it represents value then you don’t have to pay it. People seem to still think that there is some kind of law that they have to pay the license fee when obviously it is just a fee for access to a service, exactly like Prime or Netflix and if you don’t want that service then you don’t have to pay the fee.

And if someone does think the £10/month fee is good value for access to the content they do enjoy why on earth would they rant about one show that they don’t like. You don’t get that logic with the other monthly fees to access content because it simply isn’t logical.

Some people seem to be confused and think they own something like they do with the NHS or benefit entitlements. It’s just a simple product offer. Want access to Freeview channels, content as it is broadcast, and iPlayer then pay a monthly fee. Don’t want that then what kind of lunatic still pays the fee?

[DonkeyApple]

Doofus said:

In what way insidious?

Their overt lack of support for aged WASPs. Have you seen BBC Three? It openly discriminates in favour of young people. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg. Entire radio stations that don’t broadcast the Goon Show on repeat. People from the colonies polluting EastEnders. And then there is the management, bunch of liberal tossers who refuse to broadcast documentaries about nazi shark attacks and have turned Salford into a temple for homosexuality and other deviances.

[Doofus]

DonkeyApple said:

Doofus said:

DonkeyApple said:

Why? It’s the great confusion. What is the true link between the BBC and the fee that you pay?

Regardless of transparency, the 'true link' is that you legally have to buy a tv license to watch BBC television.

The argument about specifically how it's funded is for to have with the government, not the viewers.

Stuff

Agreed. For some reason I had thought you were having a go at me, while I had thought I was (sort of) agreeing with you.

[DonkeyApple]

Doofus said:

DonkeyApple said:

Doofus said:

DonkeyApple said:

Why? It’s the great confusion. What is the true link between the BBC and the fee that you pay?

Regardless of transparency, the 'true link' is that you legally have to buy a tv license to watch BBC television.

The argument about specifically how it's funded is for to have with the government, not the viewers.

Stuff

Agreed. For some reason I had thought you were having a go at me, while I had thought I was (sort of) agreeing with you.

No, not having a go at you at all.

Just having a ramble about how if more people understood what the TV license was actually for they could make a clearer decision as to whether they thought they should be paying it.

[simonrockman]

I enjoyed it. But I mourn the loss of motoring programmes. For a brief moment, we had TG and TGT both as car shows, both reviewing new cars, doing fast laps and the occasional race.

Now we have two travel shows where cars usually, but not always, feature. How long before they start giving cooking tips and looking at antiques?

Fortunately, we have a whole You Tube of cars to goggle at.

[Jim on the hill]

simonrockman said:

I enjoyed it. But I mourn the loss of motoring programmes. For a brief moment, we had TG and TGT both as car shows, both reviewing new cars, doing fast laps and the occasional race.

Now we have two travel shows where cars usually, but not always, feature. How long before they start giving cooking tips and looking at antiques?

Fortunately, we have a whole You Tube of cars to goggle at.

The Grand Tour was always meant to be about travel as the three of them love it and so do most the viewers.

[anonymous-user]

Same formula but I enjoyed it, particularly when the Renault lived up to my expectations exactly...

Surely they didn’t leave it on the mountain? The eco-mentalist lefties at the BBC would surely be up in arms!

[AlexRS2782]

Schmed said:

Same formula but I enjoyed it, particularly when the Renault lived up to my expectations exactly...

Surely they didn’t leave it on the mountain? The eco-mentalist lefties at the BBC would surely be up in arms!

Fairly sure someone posted a few pages back that Chris Harris had tweeted shortly after the show that he was organising for the R4 to be brought back and get it fixed / running again.

[LuS1fer]

AlexRS2782 said:

Fairly sure someone posted a few pages back that Chris Harris had tweeted shortly after the show that he was organising for the R4 to be brought back and get it fixed / running again.

Or at least become a prop in the TG studio as most do.

[DonkeyApple]

LuS1fer said:

Or at least become a prop in the TG studio as most do.

I’d noticed they had started to return Harry’s cars as they collected their own.