BBC Top Gear Thread 2021/2022

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Zetec-S

5,890 posts

94 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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Another good episode, so far this has been the best series for a while (and I'd probably include 1 or 2 of the later CHM series in that).

- Shame about the Baja, never really got going. I hope they have another crack at it next year.
- The Megane was an interesting feature. When it was first mentioned on PH I laughed at the price along with everyone else, but watching that I can see an odd appeal to it. Although if I had that sort of money then I'd get the Cayman, but it would be a closer decision than I initially thought.
- SIARFC back again, a bit boring but I can live with it. Hopefully they'll dip in and out depending on what else they have on the show that week.

Also, is it just me or does the Gallardo look really dated in comparison with it's supercar contemporaries of that era?

Rumblestripe

2,956 posts

163 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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Zetec-S said:
- The Megane was an interesting feature. When it was first mentioned on PH I laughed at the price along with everyone else, but watching that I can see an odd appeal to it.
No seeing it moving convinced me that it just looks like a Halfords special. It's too garish to even qualify for "sleeper" status.

Cayman or Megane?

If you take more than a nanosecond to choose you either already have a super/hypercar in the garage or you were dropped on your head by the midwife.

No surprise that Harris should be able to beat the other two in the Cayman/Gallardo. Put the Stig in the other two and see how big the difference is.

Zetec-S

5,890 posts

94 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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Rumblestripe said:
No seeing it moving convinced me that it just looks like a Halfords special. It's too garish to even qualify for "sleeper" status.

Cayman or Megane?

If you take more than a nanosecond to choose you either already have a super/hypercar in the garage or you were dropped on your head by the midwife.
I wouldn't have said it was "garish". Surely if anything was garish last night it was the bright yellow Porsche with the big rear wing wink

But anyway, one of the great things about living in a country like the UK is the amount of choice we have, and the freedom to make your own decisions. I can't understand why someone would choose to live "oop north", go on holiday to some god-awful "brits abroad" resort in Tenerife, wear red trousers, or be a vegan. But thankfully people are allowed to do so* smile

* ok, maybe we should draw the line at red trousers

Riley Blue

20,980 posts

227 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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Made me smile when the word 'refined' was used to describe what had been done to the Megane.

otolith

56,201 posts

205 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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ChocolateFrog said:
It's hideous.

I never went in for the Bangle era cars look terrible mantra. Yes the E65, especially from the rear was no looker but it had to follow 2 of the best looking full size saloons ever made.

I think even the most ardent Bangle hater would like to see him return, the current BMW design trend is hideously hilarious. It'll be a sad day when they ruin the M2, currently their best looking car I think.
The Bangle boot lid was an abortion, but not all of his work was so bad. The thing they are currently doing with the grilles I still have trouble accepting as not actually some sort of parody.

otolith

56,201 posts

205 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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DonkeyApple said:
Laurence is the son of James Fox another old English actor and is arguably only really known for being in an Inspector Morse spin-off and being married to Billie Piper at some point.
Also, more recently, for being notoriously gammony on Question Time, much to the delight of PH's more pork-appreciative members.

DoubleD

22,154 posts

109 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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Rumblestripe said:
Zetec-S said:
- The Megane was an interesting feature. When it was first mentioned on PH I laughed at the price along with everyone else, but watching that I can see an odd appeal to it.
No seeing it moving convinced me that it just looks like a Halfords special. It's too garish to even qualify for "sleeper" status.

Cayman or Megane?

If you take more than a nanosecond to choose you either already have a super/hypercar in the garage or you were dropped on your head by the midwife.

No surprise that Harris should be able to beat the other two in the Cayman/Gallardo. Put the Stig in the other two and see how big the difference is.
I imagine that Harris was more interested in how it drove rather than what badge it had on it.



JustALooseScrew

1,154 posts

68 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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DonkeyApple said:
... an Inspector Morse spin-off and being married to Billie Piper at some point...
That is nothing to be proud of. hehe

I found last nights program less then entertaining, I much prefer Freddy, Paddy and Harris larking about.

I really do hope they stop trying to turn this back into a program about cars. I'm far more entertained watching them acting like dheads and struggling through scripted challenges and leaving me hearing one liners that make me laugh.

Each to their own I guess.

Without a doubt the TG researchers are reading this thread, I'd like to offer up the opportunity for me and my son to get involved in a crazy stupid challenge - I have some ideas - you can contact me via my PH profile. biggrinthumbup

Fundoreen

4,180 posts

84 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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A mixed bag yesterday.
They made the mistake of trusting some blustering americans to prepare the baja car cos its an american event.
They always sound like they know what they are doing I guess.
Crappy celeb bit returns. Maybe cos they had to fill some time. Probably recorded before fox showed everyone he was a git.
Megan bit was fun. Yes its pricey but thats for the full spec.
You dont think you are going to laugh then paddy plows through all the traffic cones.
They need more episodes a year and could probably show them in 2 blocks in the year. All the other regular BBC showbiz stuff is never ending. Graham norton is probably on 300 times a year. You feel like you're stuck in that caravan with him.


zebra

4,555 posts

215 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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DonkeyApple said:
chrispmartha said:
DonkeyApple said:
I would prefer that secondary sales advertising slot to be filled on the BBC with something more high brow such as short explanations of how things work like turbos, gearboxes things like that. Just 7 mins of nerd indulgence.
Sounds absolutely riveting ;-)
The important benefit would be that it would reverse the awful trend of men going to make the tea during the ad break and get women back in the kitchen. wink
No it wouldn’t. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence who posts on this site should know how turbos and gearboxes work, so they’d still be going to the kitchen to make the brews.

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,100 posts

213 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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Rumblestripe said:
No surprise that Harris should be able to beat the other two in the Cayman/Gallardo. Put the Stig in the other two and see how big the difference is.
This

otolith

56,201 posts

205 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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zebra said:
DonkeyApple said:
chrispmartha said:
DonkeyApple said:
I would prefer that secondary sales advertising slot to be filled on the BBC with something more high brow such as short explanations of how things work like turbos, gearboxes things like that. Just 7 mins of nerd indulgence.
Sounds absolutely riveting ;-)
The important benefit would be that it would reverse the awful trend of men going to make the tea during the ad break and get women back in the kitchen. wink
No it wouldn’t. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence who posts on this site should know how turbos and gearboxes work, so they’d still be going to the kitchen to make the brews.
Would they, though, or would they be staying in situ to stop their bored partners changing the channel?

zebra

4,555 posts

215 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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otolith said:
zebra said:
DonkeyApple said:
chrispmartha said:
DonkeyApple said:
I would prefer that secondary sales advertising slot to be filled on the BBC with something more high brow such as short explanations of how things work like turbos, gearboxes things like that. Just 7 mins of nerd indulgence.
Sounds absolutely riveting ;-)
The important benefit would be that it would reverse the awful trend of men going to make the tea during the ad break and get women back in the kitchen. wink
No it wouldn’t. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence who posts on this site should know how turbos and gearboxes work, so they’d still be going to the kitchen to make the brews.
Would they, though, or would they be staying in situ to stop their bored partners changing the channel?
Valid point, well made.

Either way it would make cr*p tv for all viewers.


TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,100 posts

213 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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zebra said:
otolith said:
zebra said:
DonkeyApple said:
chrispmartha said:
DonkeyApple said:
I would prefer that secondary sales advertising slot to be filled on the BBC with something more high brow such as short explanations of how things work like turbos, gearboxes things like that. Just 7 mins of nerd indulgence.
Sounds absolutely riveting ;-)
The important benefit would be that it would reverse the awful trend of men going to make the tea during the ad break and get women back in the kitchen. wink
No it wouldn’t. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence who posts on this site should know how turbos and gearboxes work, so they’d still be going to the kitchen to make the brews.
Would they, though, or would they be staying in situ to stop their bored partners changing the channel?
Valid point, well made.

Either way it would make cr*p tv for all viewers.
Yes. It would be like Top Gear back before the CHM era. An utter snooze-fest.

HARTLEYHARE1

588 posts

130 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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The baja was good fun, poorly run team obviously but still good tv

Another good episode

Johnspex

4,343 posts

185 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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otolith said:
zebra said:
DonkeyApple said:
chrispmartha said:
DonkeyApple said:
I would prefer that secondary sales advertising slot to be filled on the BBC with something more high brow such as short explanations of how things work like turbos, gearboxes things like that. Just 7 mins of nerd indulgence.
Sounds absolutely riveting ;-)
The important benefit would be that it would reverse the awful trend of men going to make the tea during the ad break and get women back in the kitchen. wink
No it wouldn’t. Anyone with a modicum of intelligence who posts on this site should know how turbos and gearboxes work, so they’d still be going to the kitchen to make the brews.
Would they, though, or would they be staying in situ to stop their bored partners changing the channel?
That would suggest that partners were allowed access to the remote, and it also raises the question why isn't the partner making the tea in the first place.

irocfan

40,538 posts

191 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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Steve vRS said:
The same Tiff that shunted Nigel Mansell into a bridge?
Was that actually Tiff's fault though?



Otispunkmeyer said:
it was killed before it even started by what appeared to be poor prep. Either that or Harris wasn’t driving it with half an eye on mechanical sympathy..... but flat battery, no GPS at the start and frazzled power steering within 70mi kinda hints at the former.

A shame. I hope they go back and have another go. In a proper Baja truck!!
from what I understand it's likely to be a little from column A and a little from column B. Good driver no doubt - a little less than mechanically sympathetic is also apparently true



NGRhodes said:
That Buggy was not ready for the Baja 1000 (poor preparation or bad luck), I suspect the way Chris reacted to the smoke that there had been a failure of some kind off camera (possibly when the practice Buggy was different ?)
might that have something to do with his (relatively) recent incident with the Alpine?

marky911

4,417 posts

220 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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I was surprised how desperate he was to get out at the sight of smoke.
What was the Alpine incident? It will probably explain it.

Onto a different matter. £72k for a Renault hatchback. rofl

GT4 was the best car of that trio. Lambo sounded the best but value for money and ability to stand up to proper track abuse then the GT4 was by far the pick of the bunch.





NGRhodes

1,291 posts

73 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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irocfan said:
Steve vRS said:
The same Tiff that shunted Nigel Mansell into a bridge?
Was that actually Tiff's fault though?
TIff braked, locked and shunted Mansell. Pure accident.

Randy Winkman

16,169 posts

190 months

Monday 17th February 2020
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NGRhodes said:
irocfan said:
Steve vRS said:
The same Tiff that shunted Nigel Mansell into a bridge?
Was that actually Tiff's fault though?
TIff braked, locked and shunted Mansell. Pure accident.
This one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVvebZwmLKU