BBC Top Gear Thread 2021/2022

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Doofus

25,829 posts

174 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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sandman77 said:
Doofus said:
Did they say that he'd achieved "Three, yes THREE" F1 wins? Is that a lot? Sounds pretty mediocre to me.
That comment I can live with but they also said he used to beat Michael Schumacher.
For somebody (me) who has zero interest in F1 it's all meaningless. I just wondered if three wins over ten years was a lot. Apparently it is.

I wish my job required so little success. wink

ddom

6,657 posts

49 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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AnotherClarkey said:
Only 55-odd drivers have ever won more than 3 F1 GPs out of about 775 that have driven in the championship. I think that merits more than 'pretty mediocre' status.
Not on PH biggrin

Podie

46,630 posts

276 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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AnotherClarkey said:
Doofus said:
Did they say that he'd achieved "Three, yes THREE" F1 wins? Is that a lot? Sounds pretty mediocre to me.
Only 55-odd drivers have ever won more than 3 F1 GPs out of about 775 that have driven in the championship. I think that merits more than 'pretty mediocre' status.
He also finished 2nd in the WDC in '97 and 3rd in '99.

ddom

6,657 posts

49 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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Podie said:
He also finished 2nd in the WDC in '97 and 3rd in '99.
What a loser rofl

Bonefish Blues

26,791 posts

224 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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ddom said:
Podie said:
He also finished 2nd in the WDC in '97 and 3rd in '99.
What a loser rofl
He had a touch of the Bottas, perhaps?

thegreenhell

15,389 posts

220 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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sandman77 said:
That comment I can live with but they also said he used to beat Michael Schumacher.
He was generally considered to be quicker than Schumacher when they were teammates in the Mercedes sportscar team prior to F1, and it was that reputation that landed him the Williams drive. Unfortunately he failed to deliver on that promise and was dropped after two seasons.

FiF

44,115 posts

252 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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According to the statistical study by Sheffield University Methods Institute and as published in Journal of Quantitative Analysis, Heinz-Harald Frentzen was rated 42, so in the top 50. Stirling was rated 29, no doubt suffering greatly due to career being cut short after his Goodwood shunt.

Frankly anyone on here, unless they are or have been F1 drivers, or at minimum world class competitors in another top line formula, are in no position to make disparaging comments, even of back markers, as 99+% of us wouldn't get a lap in without spinning, even if not trying that hard.

speedking31

3,556 posts

137 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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Pericoloso said:
All on open public roads too.
The Mille Miglia was on borrowed time in 1955 , everyone knew the cars were way too fast by then.
The fatal crash in Guidizzolo in 1957 obviously was the last straw !
Won't somebody think of the chickens!

C70R

17,596 posts

105 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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FiF said:
According to the statistical study by Sheffield University Methods Institute and as published in Journal of Quantitative Analysis, Heinz-Harald Frentzen was rated 42, so in the top 50. Stirling was rated 29, no doubt suffering greatly due to career being cut short after his Goodwood shunt.

Frankly anyone on here, unless they are or have been F1 drivers, or at minimum world class competitors in another top line formula, are in no position to make disparaging comments, even of back markers, as 99+% of us wouldn't get a lap in without spinning, even if not trying that hard.
I don't think the vociferous defence of HFF is warranted after one post in a long thread called him "mediocre", but thanks for sharing that anyway...

Doofus

25,829 posts

174 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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C70R said:
I don't think the vociferous defence of HFF is warranted after one post in a long thread called him "mediocre", but thanks for sharing that anyway...
I didn't call him mediocre. I said (knowing fk all about F1) that winning just three times in ten years seemed like it might be mediocre.

warch

2,941 posts

155 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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Doofus said:
I didn't call him mediocre. I said (knowing fk all about F1) that winning just three times in ten years seemed like it might be mediocre.
Well done, now you've unleashed the full fury of the F1 geeks.

Back on topic I quite enjoyed last night's episode not exactly a classic but not bad considering the current filming constraints. I see there are less complaints about Paddy McGuiness's driving ability this week.


ddom

6,657 posts

49 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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C70R said:
I don't think the vociferous defence of HFF is warranted after one post in a long thread called him "mediocre", but thanks for sharing that anyway...
Stunning contribution. Thanks for sharing.

Doofus

25,829 posts

174 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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warch said:
Well done, now you've unleashed the full fury of the F1 geeks.
And I've been back-pedalling ever since. An innocent question is never an innocent question when it annoys nerds.

slopes

38,829 posts

188 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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warch said:
Doofus said:
I didn't call him mediocre. I said (knowing fk all about F1) that winning just three times in ten years seemed like it might be mediocre.
Well done, now you've unleashed the full fury of the F1 geeks.

Back on topic I quite enjoyed last night's episode not exactly a classic but not bad considering the current filming constraints. I see there are less complaints about Paddy McGuiness's driving ability this week.
I think this line up is great, Flintoff is nuts - see the bungee jumping the car off the dam for example, Harris is just Harris and McGuiness is living up to his persona but it's the best line up since CHM buggered off, no complaints from me so far.
Yes some of the episodes have been poor but then that was the case with CHM too.

Bonefish Blues

26,791 posts

224 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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Doofus said:
C70R said:
I don't think the vociferous defence of HFF is warranted after one post in a long thread called him "mediocre", but thanks for sharing that anyway...
I didn't call him mediocre. I said (knowing fk all about F1) that winning just three times in ten years seemed like it might be mediocre.
That's not quite what you said.

Doofus

25,829 posts

174 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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Bonefish Blues said:
Doofus said:
C70R said:
I don't think the vociferous defence of HFF is warranted after one post in a long thread called him "mediocre", but thanks for sharing that anyway...
I didn't call him mediocre. I said (knowing fk all about F1) that winning just three times in ten years seemed like it might be mediocre.
That's not quite what you said.
I don't care, and neither shuold you, FFS. rolleyes

Its Just Adz

14,117 posts

210 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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Really good episode I thought, that Bentley was amazing

Coley88

2,946 posts

192 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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Personally. I’m really enjoying this season.

Vastly better than the CE & MLB days.

Harris is a class act, he’s the glue holding it together at present, it wouldn’t be the same without him.

Bonefish Blues

26,791 posts

224 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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Doofus said:
Bonefish Blues said:
Doofus said:
C70R said:
I don't think the vociferous defence of HFF is warranted after one post in a long thread called him "mediocre", but thanks for sharing that anyway...
I didn't call him mediocre. I said (knowing fk all about F1) that winning just three times in ten years seemed like it might be mediocre.
That's not quite what you said.
I don't care, and neither shuold you, FFS. rolleyes
I don't really I was just pointing out that your memory had rather failed you on this occasion smile

J4CKO

41,622 posts

201 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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Is it me or did the chair on the roof thing look properly sketchy.