BBC Top Gear Thread 2021/2022

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Bluedot

3,596 posts

108 months

Sunday 3rd July 2022
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Decent show that, any idea where the hill climbing stuff was all filmed ?
Didn't really know about the future fuels either, the synthetic fuel was a real eye opener especially.

200Plus Club

10,773 posts

279 months

Sunday 3rd July 2022
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Pretty good way to end the series

Willhire89

1,329 posts

206 months

Sunday 3rd July 2022
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Bluedot said:
Decent show that, any idea where the hill climbing stuff was all filmed ?
VSCC Herefordshire Trial

cjs racing.

2,469 posts

130 months

Sunday 3rd July 2022
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Bluedot said:
the synthetic fuel was a real eye opener especially.
I wasn't aware of synthetic fuel.

But with governments pushing for electric cars, and manufacturers making electrics, is it something that will always remain highly priced, and instead of pumping it into our cars, we will be buy it in 30 years, off the shelf of motor factors, in 5 gallon recyclable containers, to run our classic cars on

Johnspex

4,343 posts

185 months

Sunday 3rd July 2022
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That was pretty good!
I prefer Paddy to Freddie too. He just seems to need a bit of toughening up.
He did sound quite frightened during a part of the trial thing when FF was driving.


By the by, did CH say Porsh the first time and Porshah after?

ZX10R NIN

27,642 posts

126 months

Sunday 3rd July 2022
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cjs racing. said:
Bluedot said:
the synthetic fuel was a real eye opener especially.
I wasn't aware of synthetic fuel.

But with governments pushing for electric cars, and manufacturers making electrics, is it something that will always remain highly priced, and instead of pumping it into our cars, we will be buy it in 30 years, off the shelf of motor factors, in 5 gallon recyclable containers, to run our classic cars on
Not sure if there are any clips of it out there yet but Seb Vettel was doing some laps in his V10 Williams F1 car today at Silverstone which was running on Sythetic Fuel.

pquinn

7,167 posts

47 months

Sunday 3rd July 2022
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Production processes may have changed but synthetic fuel is far from a new thing, the Germans were making loads at one point to make up for their lack of oil supplies.

The newer projects have been running for a while too.

WarrenB

2,417 posts

119 months

Sunday 3rd July 2022
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cjs racing. said:
Bluedot said:
the synthetic fuel was a real eye opener especially.
I wasn't aware of synthetic fuel.

But with governments pushing for electric cars, and manufacturers making electrics, is it something that will always remain highly priced, and instead of pumping it into our cars, we will be buy it in 30 years, off the shelf of motor factors, in 5 gallon recyclable containers, to run our classic cars on
I had the same thoughts. Instead of mandating that internal combustion engined cars are no longer to be sold after 2030, why not make a push for greener fuels and/or cleaner combustion engines for the same date. Manufacturers would still be developing the ICE and not pushing inferior electric vehicles.

Hydrogen interests me and I think that has a future, but of all the electric cars they showed the only one that interests me even slightly was the Mach-E and that's only because I like the way it looks. I just find them all dull. Massive acceleration is fun, but without sound it just seems pointless.

Antony Moxey

8,090 posts

220 months

Sunday 3rd July 2022
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What a superb episode to end the series on, from Paddy nearly hitting that car at end of the first trial hill to Chris in the rally car to Paddy’s reaction to the Defender. If you didn’t like that episode then Top Gear really isn’t for you.

BossHogg

6,022 posts

179 months

Sunday 3rd July 2022
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The synthetic fuel is very interesting indeed, especially if it can be mass produced in this country to bring the price right down.

LuS1fer

41,140 posts

246 months

Sunday 3rd July 2022
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BossHogg said:
The synthetic fuel is very interesting indeed, especially if it can be mass produced in this country to bring the price right down.
Until they add synthetic fuel duty and VAT. 🤯

BossHogg

6,022 posts

179 months

Sunday 3rd July 2022
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That goes without saying, but there will be no import taxes, and it will be a whole lot greener, we can continue to drive our old cars. I certainly won't be able to afford an electric car.

jhonn

1,567 posts

150 months

Sunday 3rd July 2022
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Yep, I enjoyed that, the missus and MIL were in the room when it was on and it held their attention too. I could identify with Paddy when he was enthusing about the acceleration of the Defender, there's a sense of joy and amazement of taking something that is interesting and characterful and making it go so much faster than it was ever intended to. Though not a BMW fan I thought the M series slot was interesting and well done.
Roll on the next series, any idea when's it scheduled?

Evanivitch

20,143 posts

123 months

Sunday 3rd July 2022
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WarrenB said:
I had the same thoughts. Instead of mandating that internal combustion engined cars are no longer to be sold after 2030, why not make a push for greener fuels and/or cleaner combustion engines for the same date. Manufacturers would still be developing the ICE and not pushing inferior electric vehicles.
They've been doing that for the last 30 years (Euro 1)...

And after industry spending billions lobbying in fighting it, billions in fraud by industry and the huge cost of catalysts (and their theft) the industry themselves have made the business decision that trying to meet stricter Euro 7 standards on low-profit margin cars is unviable and that the future is electric.

Synthetic fuels still cause localised pollution. They still require immense amounts of electricity to generate, which has to come from fossil, Renewables or nuclear.

MDifficult

2,055 posts

186 months

Sunday 3rd July 2022
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I’m obviously biased but… best episode for years. Absolute cracker.

Tannedbaldhead

2,952 posts

133 months

Sunday 3rd July 2022
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Johnspex said:
By the by, did CH say Porsh the first time and Porshah after?
Perhaps it's a BBC Derry/Londonderry thing.

BadOrangePete

632 posts

45 months

Sunday 3rd July 2022
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Great episode that, the vintage trails looked fun! Decent piece on alternative fuels too.

CH would have been ideal for the M--car feature but otherwise no complaints thumbup

Mikebentley

6,124 posts

141 months

Sunday 3rd July 2022
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Thought that was a great show. Loved the pinkish Porsche. Those front discs on the Aventador were glowing nicely.

Mercdriver

2,027 posts

34 months

Sunday 3rd July 2022
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MDifficult said:
I’m obviously biased but… best episode for years. Absolute cracker.
Totally agree, think the improvement is down to many shorter segments instead of a forty minute section. Plus it gives more chance of appealing to a younger or older audience.

The complaints on here are spilt between older and younger viewers who have different expectations of the programme.

Will still keep watching though the good programmes, to me, make it worthwhile watching the poor programmes.

hairykrishna

13,184 posts

204 months

Sunday 3rd July 2022
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BossHogg said:
That goes without saying, but there will be no import taxes, and it will be a whole lot greener, we can continue to drive our old cars. I certainly won't be able to afford an electric car.
It's hugely energy intensive and it's never going to be cheap enough, or produced on a large enough scale, to somehow make it a cheaper alternative to electric cars. It's a way that people can continue to drive classics and that's basically the reason Porsche are chucking money at it.