Star Wars IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Star Wars IX: The Rise of Skywalker

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Guvernator

13,156 posts

165 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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chris4652009 said:
We enjoyed them both

Edit: We enjoy all of the films in the saga tbh


Edited by chris4652009 on Tuesday 22 October 12:26
I think we can get that you enjoyed them, some of my friends did too but the fact that you enjoyed them does not make them great films. I enjoy lots of crap films, I wouldn't be calling them great though as I know they aren't but accept them for what they are, crap films that I get enjoyment from.



chris watton

22,477 posts

260 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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AshVX220 said:
Just watched the trailer and yes it looks impressive, but with modern effects they always do. The locations looked interesting to be, the "ice asteroid", the star destroyer apparently coming out of the sea etc.



Edited by AshVX220 on Tuesday 22 October 12:02
Just boring eye candy, and yet another one of Abrams' 'Wouldn't it look cool if...' problem is, we have already done this scene in a Star Trek film, with the Enterprise emerging from the sea! Nothing original.

I am betting you will come back from watching it and say how great it was/looked. And then completely forget about it the following week. This seems to be the way of modern 'Blockbusters'

chris4652009

1,572 posts

84 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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Guvernator said:
chris4652009 said:
We enjoyed them both

Edit: We enjoy all of the films in the saga tbh


Edited by chris4652009 on Tuesday 22 October 12:26
I think we can get that you enjoyed them, some of my friends did too but the fact that you enjoyed them does not make them great films. I enjoy lots of crap films, I wouldn't be calling them great though as I know they aren't but accept them for what they are, crap films that I get enjoyment from.
Fair comment

chris4652009

1,572 posts

84 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
chris4652009 said:
amare32 said:
Force Awakens and Last Jedi great films?

Someone needs to make a Spec Savers booking pronto.
We enjoyed them both

Edit: We enjoy all of the films in the saga tbh


Edited by chris4652009 on Tuesday 22 October 12:26
I’m with you, I can enjoy all the films but that’s not to say they were all great.

To be honest, they’re a nostalgia trip for me and I don’t care about switching my brain off to enjoy them-folk getting upset about space bombs in a fantasy film is laughable in itself!
Same here, I'm mid 40s and have loved the franchise since the beginning.

generationx

6,742 posts

105 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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I'll go to the cinema to see it more out of habit than anything else. To quote '3PO: "Here we go again".

I didn't bother with Solo and, having watched it since, I consider that a wise decision.

Carl_Manchester

12,196 posts

262 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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MiniMan64 said:
Rewatched Last Jedi last night and it wasn’t as bad as my memories suggested.

The only jarring element for me was the pointlessness of Snoke.

What’s all the hate for it for?
Because the fanboys like me assumed snoke was Darth Plagueis, they even made Snoke the same race.

When they popped Snoke he went cheaply, too cheaply.

in our heads Snoke was supposed to face off with Luke and we were expecting some sort of explanation right at the end of the film regarding Snoke which did not come.

What we ended up with was a mess as we have absolutely no idea who Snoke was or who trained him even though he was the main baddie for what, four hours of film ?

The whole story arc was left hanging in mid-air.

AshVX220

5,929 posts

190 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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Carl_Manchester said:
MiniMan64 said:
Rewatched Last Jedi last night and it wasn’t as bad as my memories suggested.

The only jarring element for me was the pointlessness of Snoke.

What’s all the hate for it for?
Because the fanboys like me assumed snoke was Darth Plagueis, they even made Snoke the same race.

When they popped Snoke he went cheaply, too cheaply.

in our heads Snoke was supposed to face off with Luke and we were expecting some sort of explanation right at the end of the film regarding Snoke which did not come.

What we ended up with was a mess as we have absolutely no idea who Snoke was or who trained him even though he was the main baddie for what, four hours of film ?

The whole story arc was left hanging in mid-air.
And that is the entire problem with TLJ, not just Snoke, but pretty much every story arc that had been set up in TFA was just thrown away.

p1stonhead

25,545 posts

167 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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Carl_Manchester said:
MiniMan64 said:
Rewatched Last Jedi last night and it wasn’t as bad as my memories suggested.

The only jarring element for me was the pointlessness of Snoke.

What’s all the hate for it for?
Because the fanboys like me assumed snoke was Darth Plagueis, they even made Snoke the same race.

When they popped Snoke he went cheaply, too cheaply.

in our heads Snoke was supposed to face off with Luke and we were expecting some sort of explanation right at the end of the film regarding Snoke which did not come.

What we ended up with was a mess as we have absolutely no idea who Snoke was or who trained him even though he was the main baddie for what, four hours of film ?

The whole story arc was left hanging in mid-air.
And;

They destroyed the mystery behind Reys parents.

They had a 2mph ship race across the universe.

Fuel suddenly existed in Star Wars (wonder where their petrol stations are?)

The casino planet in general

Leila flying through space

Luke tossing the lightsabre and generally being a knob after the entire build up of the force awakens

Shirtless Kylo mind trance thing for ‘reasons’

The ‘comedy’ of Poe at the start

The bombers at the beginning dropping bombs and needing to be ‘above’ the other ship despite gravity not existing in space

Weaponising light speed

The pointless fight on the salt covered planet

Milking the sea moose thing

Phasma having a pretty lacklustre end

Snoke being pointless as previously mentioned

The whole captain not sharing the plan with her crew thing for ‘reasons’ then having to commit suicide

The whole Finn love interest thing

Rey going from living in a desert on her own to lifting 100 massive boulders in the space of what, a week?

The yoda appearance in general





That is literally off the top of my head. I’m sure there are more.


southendpier

5,260 posts

229 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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What about releasing the fathiers (Camel things) at Canto Bight casino. These running amok and smashing up those awful rich aliens fun was "worth it".

A wonderfully powerful scene. Beautiful CGI, a scene that totally fitted in with the film and really kept the pace going.

One has to remember the superb tension caused by the guards running over toward BB-8, but then the thrill and excitement as BB-8 was able to down all the guards by firing gold coins at them out of his firing gold coin 'belly' slot. The incredible juxtaposition of using the very gold that built the casino to bring down the security that protected it was so, very very deep and inspiring.

This is just one amazing piece of cinematic history TLJ gave us, plus these incredible, never to be forgotten places and characters:

Canto Bight
Sea of Cantonica
Fathiers
Cantonica,
Slowen Lo
slicer DJ
Temiri Blagg


there are of course, many, many more scenes just as good as this one.

Halb

53,012 posts

183 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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southendpier said:
C3PO has friends..

aaah..
ffwwiieeeennndddddddd
AshVX220 said:
Tip for Disney, if you're gonna do a trilogy, at least have the same person write the whole thing!

Edited by AshVX220 on Tuesday 22 October 12:02
I think that's a very good bit of advice.

housen

2,366 posts

192 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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new trailer thoughts


Rose looks fat


southendpier

5,260 posts

229 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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housen said:
new trailer thoughts


Rose looks fat


Guvernator

13,156 posts

165 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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housen said:
new trailer thoughts


Rose looks fat

The shoehorned love interest between her and Finn, literally zero chemistry between them leading to one of the most awkward and cringe worthy scenes ever committed to film "saving what we love". In fact pretty much any scene with Rose in, awful dialogue and worse acting but apparently those who point this out are just racist, middle aged white men, threatened by an Asian female actress.

Aaaaargh I'm getting angry all over again. mad

chris4652009

1,572 posts

84 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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southendpier said:
housen said:
new trailer thoughts


Rose looks fat

laugh actual LOL, brilliant

JagLover

42,406 posts

235 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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Guvernator said:
The shoehorned love interest between her and Finn, literally zero chemistry between them leading to one of the most awkward and cringe worthy scenes ever committed to film "saving what we love". In fact pretty much any scene with Rose in, awful dialogue and worse acting but apparently those who point this out are just racist, middle aged white men, threatened by an Asian female actress.

Aaaaargh I'm getting angry all over again. mad
You wacist you

But seriously the Chinese couldn't stand this film, despite having their supposed "heroine" in. If you are going to include a Chinese character to target that market at least have them be well written and serving a purpose

p1stonhead

25,545 posts

167 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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Guvernator said:
housen said:
new trailer thoughts


Rose looks fat

The shoehorned love interest between her and Finn, literally zero chemistry between them leading to one of the most awkward and cringe worthy scenes ever committed to film "saving what we love". In fact pretty much any scene with Rose in, awful dialogue and worse acting but apparently those who point this out are just racist, middle aged white men, threatened by an Asian female actress.

Aaaaargh I'm getting angry all over again. mad
It really really is a TERRIBLE film, star wars or not.

petemurphy

10,122 posts

183 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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looks fking awesome i may have shed a tear at leia

chris4652009

1,572 posts

84 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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petemurphy said:
looks fking awesome i may have shed a tear at leia
I got dust in my eye at C3PO

petemurphy

10,122 posts

183 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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chris4652009 said:
I got dust in my eye at C3PO
ha!

Guvernator

13,156 posts

165 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2019
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JagLover said:
You wacist you

But seriously the Chinese couldn't stand this film, despite having their supposed "heroine" in. If you are going to include a Chinese character to target that market at least have them be well written and serving a purpose
Being able to act would also help, I think she probably competes with boy Anakin for the most wooden actor in Star Wars, at least that kid had an excuse that he was only 8. Seriously, who watched the screen test for Rose and thought, "YES, she nailed it".

Finn is probably my favourite actor in the sequels, so very expressive and made me believe the character was real despite being giving not much to do in the grand scheme of things.

Rey was decent in TFA but seemed to go downhill in TLJ and put on about 10 kilos in between films which jars seeing as TLJ kicks off literally seconds after TFA ends.

Luke - Hamill was solid but his dialogue and character development could have been written by a 10 year old who had never watched a Star Wars movie but instead was given a synopsis of it on a post it note.

Poe again decent in TFA, turned whipping boy in TLJ for no other reason than they seemed to want to have an alpha male to abuse on screen so they could deliver a "political message".

Purple Hair lady - So good I don't even remember her characters name. She shouted at Poe a lot and kept her really clever plan secret. A plan which pretty much amounted to make a run for it at 2mph while being used for target practice by the entire First Order fleet and being responsible for 99% of the Rebels getting wiped out in a turkey shoot. Remind me why her plan was better than Poe's again? Oh yes that's right because "girl power".

Leia - All due respect to Carrie Fisher (RIP) but she was way to ill to be in these films. It pained me to watch her, it just looked like it was a struggle for her to get through some of her scenes. Would have been kinder and made more sense if she was killed in TFA rather than Han or better yet they both went out together.