Star Wars IX: The Rise of Skywalker
Discussion
I watched this tonight, only 11 people in the cinema screen including ourselfs.
Over the Christmas period I managed to watch episodes 1 to 6 which made the whole Palpatine story fresh in my mind, I understood all the connections of various family's, who's kid is whos, who is this person etc so I understood most of it. My son was so confused as he has only watched the newer versions from ep7 but due to his age he is only interested in the new stuff.
I thought the film was good it seemed like a big reunion of past and present characters. I have 2 questions that I didn't quite manage to understand. If some one could answer them for me I would be grateful.
What did Finn have to tell Rey? I may have missed this during the film.
When Ben/Kylo Ren brought Rey back to life he disappeared, was he already dead? Like how Leia disappeared too?
Over the Christmas period I managed to watch episodes 1 to 6 which made the whole Palpatine story fresh in my mind, I understood all the connections of various family's, who's kid is whos, who is this person etc so I understood most of it. My son was so confused as he has only watched the newer versions from ep7 but due to his age he is only interested in the new stuff.
I thought the film was good it seemed like a big reunion of past and present characters. I have 2 questions that I didn't quite manage to understand. If some one could answer them for me I would be grateful.
What did Finn have to tell Rey? I may have missed this during the film.
When Ben/Kylo Ren brought Rey back to life he disappeared, was he already dead? Like how Leia disappeared too?
Edited by Chuffedmonkey on Saturday 18th January 00:27
Chuffedmonkey said:
What did Finn have to tell Rey? I may have missed this during the film.
When Ben/Kylo Ren brought Rey back to life he disappeared, was he already dead? Like how Leia disappeared too?
That he’s force sensitive. Disclosed by JJ Abrams in an interviewWhen Ben/Kylo Ren brought Rey back to life he disappeared, was he already dead? Like how Leia disappeared too?
Edited by Chuffedmonkey on Saturday 18th January 00:27
He has to give her all of his life force to recover her. Her healing the snake in the cave was the first mention of this Jedi power. I’d assumed she was so far gone that he needed to empty himself. Then his body disappears in the style of a dead Jedi.
BlackWidow13 said:
That he’s force sensitive. Disclosed by JJ Abrams in an interview
He has to give her all of his life force to recover her. Her healing the snake in the cave was the first mention of this Jedi power. I’d assumed she was so far gone that he needed to empty himself. Then his body disappears in the style of a dead Jedi.
He has to give her all of his life force to recover her. Her healing the snake in the cave was the first mention of this Jedi power. I’d assumed she was so far gone that he needed to empty himself. Then his body disappears in the style of a dead Jedi.
BlackWidow13 said:
That he’s force sensitive. Disclosed by JJ Abrams in an interview
He has to give her all of his life force to recover her. Her healing the snake in the cave was the first mention of this Jedi power. I’d assumed she was so far gone that he needed to empty himself. Then his body disappears in the style of a dead Jedi.
Finn did sense when Rey fell/died, so makes sense. I wonder but cant see the Star Wars saga continuing with the Finn/Rey characters.He has to give her all of his life force to recover her. Her healing the snake in the cave was the first mention of this Jedi power. I’d assumed she was so far gone that he needed to empty himself. Then his body disappears in the style of a dead Jedi.
Halb said:
....THat's one of the main troubles with thee films. They'll be forgotten in ten years, forget 40.
I don't think the originals lasted 40yrs as a result of their cast iron plot etc...
Saw this last night. I thought it was OK, but nothing more. A decent enough Star Wars film and a nice cinematic distraction.
I do think the franchise has come to an end though now...am wondering if it really did after the original trilogy really. (Though I liked Solo, and Rogue One was OK).
There is not a chance, however, that Disney will not be milking it for all its worth. Another half dozen movies at least.
Halb said:
Murph7355 said:
I don't think the originals lasted 40yrs as a result of their cast iron plot etc...
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I do, along with the style and panache it was delivered..
(oscar nomination losing out to Annie Hall and a screen writers guild award.)
Edited by Halb on Sunday 19th January 00:07
It was something totally new at the time. A bit like the original Matrix it gained huge popularity and its place in folklore before it was dissected to the nth degree like the modern ones have been. Rose tinted spectacles and all that.
I was a wide eyed 7yr old when the first one came out. Mum and dad took me and a few mates to the cinema for each of the releases of the first three. I'm very fond of them and they have a special place in my memory bank...but if they were released now (and something akin to the originals had raised the bar in their place) I'm not sure they would last that long
Murph7355 said:
Not convinced.
It was something totally new at the time. A bit like the original Matrix it gained huge popularity and its place in folklore before it was dissected to the nth degree like the modern ones have been. Rose tinted spectacles and all that.
I was a wide eyed 7yr old when the first one came out. Mum and dad took me and a few mates to the cinema for each of the releases of the first three. I'm very fond of them and they have a special place in my memory bank...but if they were released now (and something akin to the originals had raised the bar in their place) I'm not sure they would last that long
YOu don't need to be, but that's why it lasted. Nothing to do with 'rose tints.' It's good (and as good as anything else back then) that's why it got the awards it did, a the AFI, Saturn, guilds, library of COngress and others etc they speak for themselves; why it became iconic and spawned an industry. It's cool to knock it now and throw shade with the typical rose-tinted sIt was something totally new at the time. A bit like the original Matrix it gained huge popularity and its place in folklore before it was dissected to the nth degree like the modern ones have been. Rose tinted spectacles and all that.
I was a wide eyed 7yr old when the first one came out. Mum and dad took me and a few mates to the cinema for each of the releases of the first three. I'm very fond of them and they have a special place in my memory bank...but if they were released now (and something akin to the originals had raised the bar in their place) I'm not sure they would last that long
t. Lightening in a bottle, and it's franchise (like many others) has only been able to pump out pale imitations.Halb said:
BlackWidow13 said:
That he’s force sensitive. Disclosed by JJ Abrams in an interview
He has to give her all of his life force to recover her. Her healing the snake in the cave was the first mention of this Jedi power. I’d assumed she was so far gone that he needed to empty himself. Then his body disappears in the style of a dead Jedi.
He has to give her all of his life force to recover her. Her healing the snake in the cave was the first mention of this Jedi power. I’d assumed she was so far gone that he needed to empty himself. Then his body disappears in the style of a dead Jedi.
You're a very bad man Halb (so I am I, I sniggered too!)! stumpage said:
At the end of The Last Jedi a young boy reaches for a broom and it moves into his hand by (I assume) the force.
What happened to him?
he swept the floor....probably he'll get a 6 movie backstory (along with Chewies Medal trilogiy) in the near future.What happened to him?
seems JJ and his TFA writers did have ideas for the end result of what he put up on the screen, (abbreviated quote) "....and then Rian made his movie, and im a great fan of Rian , and i was asked to come back to do the final one...and picked up the threads of what we started....." so i wonder if (a) JJ didnt share the vision with Rian, (b) he did and Rian ignored it (c) Rian didnt ask anyone and just did hsi own thing.
Has Rian ever said what he thought should continue on from his TLJ and where he thought it would go?
recent rumours are Jar Jar is back for the obi wan series.....why, who knows.....
rider73 said:
stumpage said:
At the end of The Last Jedi a young boy reaches for a broom and it moves into his hand by (I assume) the force.
What happened to him?
he swept the floor....probably he'll get a 6 movie backstory (along with Chewies Medal trilogiy) in the near future.What happened to him?
seems JJ and his TFA writers did have ideas for the end result of what he put up on the screen, (abbreviated quote) "....and then Rian made his movie, and im a great fan of Rian , and i was asked to come back to do the final one...and picked up the threads of what we started....." so i wonder if (a) JJ didnt share the vision with Rian, (b) he did and Rian ignored it (c) Rian didnt ask anyone and just did hsi own thing.
Has Rian ever said what he thought should continue on from his TLJ and where he thought it would go?
recent rumours are Jar Jar is back for the obi wan series.....why, who knows.....
funkyrobot said:
The most bizarre thing about all of this is the fact that everything was allowed to become so fragmented. Someone at the top should have taken control and made sure everything was consistent.
Quite a major failing on the part of the senior bods really.
Unless I have this wrong.
That's definitely the problem, even after the success of the OT, when all the spin-off and expanded universe stuff was coming out (comics, novels etc) Lucasfilm actually had people to read through all the stuff and approve it so that none of it contradicted what went before or was in the pipeline.Quite a major failing on the part of the senior bods really.
Unless I have this wrong.
Disney's complete lack of foresight and overall control, ensuring that it flowed properly have cause the problems the franchise now faces.
https://qz.com/1169393/disneys-star-wars-films-hav...
Hardly a problem for Disney, eh? They've made a profit from their acquisition of the franchise and will continue to reap more - and that is regardless of what certain fans would like to think. The fact is Disney has recouped its investment and then some - so a success.
Most people who watch these movies don't buy comics to read and then get mighty cross when a scriptwriter and the production team for the movie decides to go down a different path. Most couldn't give a stuff that it isn't altogether consistent. The so-called True Fans need to remember that - they never owned the story.
My kids grew up as fans of Star Wars - they've seen them dozens of times. Not once did they want the comics or toys, not even the lego. They still, like me who saw the original in a drive-in theatre when it was released, enjoy each and every movie and while we might prefer some over others, overall, we liked them enough to continue going to see what Disney produces next. My son prefers the Star Wars franchise over Marvel - he's actually not much of a fan of that. My daughter is the opposite. I like them both but would give the edge to Star Wars.
Hardly a problem for Disney, eh?
They've made a profit from their acquisition of the franchise and will continue to reap more - and that is regardless of what certain fans would like to think. The fact is Disney has recouped its investment and then some - so a success. Most people who watch these movies don't buy comics to read and then get mighty cross when a scriptwriter and the production team for the movie decides to go down a different path. Most couldn't give a stuff that it isn't altogether consistent. The so-called True Fans need to remember that - they never owned the story.
My kids grew up as fans of Star Wars - they've seen them dozens of times. Not once did they want the comics or toys, not even the lego. They still, like me who saw the original in a drive-in theatre when it was released, enjoy each and every movie and while we might prefer some over others, overall, we liked them enough to continue going to see what Disney produces next. My son prefers the Star Wars franchise over Marvel - he's actually not much of a fan of that. My daughter is the opposite. I like them both but would give the edge to Star Wars.
This is from a year ago, but Disney may have recouped a quarter of what they spent.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/2018/06/04/disn...
THe toys stated to flop post Last Jedi. Not sure how the toy deals work, they sell the rights for a bundle to kenner or someone? Or get a percentage? Both?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/2018/06/04/disn...
THe toys stated to flop post Last Jedi. Not sure how the toy deals work, they sell the rights for a bundle to kenner or someone? Or get a percentage? Both?
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