Bangers and Cash - Yesterday channel
Discussion
aeropilot said:
52classic said:
+1 on that Aston, it just seemed to vanish into the ether!
Date of the auction would be a help if we want to pontificate about values.
Its almost impossible to tell, as the editing is now so mixed up, each episode could be mix n match from across a huge time frame.Date of the auction would be a help if we want to pontificate about values.
At one point Dave moaned about the heat, so likely it was on one of the few hot days last summer that snippet was filmed, but who knows for the rest.....
The editing was piss poor regarding the Aston as well, as at one point the film showed the dusty DBS, but the narrator mentioned DB6, and then they cut to Derek's DB6, and then to Derek talking about the DBS but standing next to his own V8 (with the ghastly wire wheels)......
Liked the Ro80 though, looked to be in nice condition....but very much a niche market. I would have expected them to be bought and sold within the small circle of the owners club rather than a commercial auction......which is why it probably only hit 10k.
daqinggregg said:
There is so mush tripe, spoken and written about these cars from people who don’t have a clue what they are talking about.
The 208 GT4 was sold only in Italy and was designed to avoid punitive new Italian taxes on cars with engine capacities of more than 2.0 litres. The Ferrari engine is one of several 2.0-litre V8s to be produced, all by Italian makers. Yet its 1990.64 cc capacity undercut rivals, if only by a few cubic millimetres. It still remains the lowest capacity V8 road car ever built.
Yep it was a slow old donkey.
Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h (62mph) in a brisk 7.7 seconds, and maximum speed was 220 km/h (137 mph). Its little V8 still sang to a heady and musical 7700 rpm.
I think it’s safe to say, it was a master class in design and engineering.
The 208 was also sold in Portugal. The 208 GT4 was sold only in Italy and was designed to avoid punitive new Italian taxes on cars with engine capacities of more than 2.0 litres. The Ferrari engine is one of several 2.0-litre V8s to be produced, all by Italian makers. Yet its 1990.64 cc capacity undercut rivals, if only by a few cubic millimetres. It still remains the lowest capacity V8 road car ever built.
Yep it was a slow old donkey.
Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h (62mph) in a brisk 7.7 seconds, and maximum speed was 220 km/h (137 mph). Its little V8 still sang to a heady and musical 7700 rpm.
I think it’s safe to say, it was a master class in design and engineering.
I've not used Wiki.
WPA said:
biggbn said:
Derek's comments that 'its all Audi' about the RO80 was entirely wrong wasn't it? If he meant it feels like an early Audi, I can get that, but he seemed to be saying it had Audi seats etc...?
RO80 was designed well before the Audi takeover, the K70 which became a Volkswagen had input from VW but RO80 was nothing to do with them.In fact the merger of Auto Union and NSU in turn led to Audi being formed.
biggbn said:
WPA said:
biggbn said:
Derek's comments that 'its all Audi' about the RO80 was entirely wrong wasn't it? If he meant it feels like an early Audi, I can get that, but he seemed to be saying it had Audi seats etc...?
RO80 was designed well before the Audi takeover, the K70 which became a Volkswagen had input from VW but RO80 was nothing to do with them.In fact the merger of Auto Union and NSU in turn led to Audi being formed.
biggbn said:
WPA said:
biggbn said:
Derek's comments that 'its all Audi' about the RO80 was entirely wrong wasn't it? If he meant it feels like an early Audi, I can get that, but he seemed to be saying it had Audi seats etc...?
RO80 was designed well before the Audi takeover, the K70 which became a Volkswagen had input from VW but RO80 was nothing to do with them.In fact the merger of Auto Union and NSU in turn led to Audi being formed.
aeropilot said:
biggbn said:
WPA said:
biggbn said:
Derek's comments that 'its all Audi' about the RO80 was entirely wrong wasn't it? If he meant it feels like an early Audi, I can get that, but he seemed to be saying it had Audi seats etc...?
RO80 was designed well before the Audi takeover, the K70 which became a Volkswagen had input from VW but RO80 was nothing to do with them.In fact the merger of Auto Union and NSU in turn led to Audi being formed.
Or, as Derek says, 'it's all Audi this'....
biggbn said:
aeropilot said:
biggbn said:
WPA said:
biggbn said:
Derek's comments that 'its all Audi' about the RO80 was entirely wrong wasn't it? If he meant it feels like an early Audi, I can get that, but he seemed to be saying it had Audi seats etc...?
RO80 was designed well before the Audi takeover, the K70 which became a Volkswagen had input from VW but RO80 was nothing to do with them.In fact the merger of Auto Union and NSU in turn led to Audi being formed.
Or, as Derek says, 'it's all Audi this'....
Red9zero said:
aeropilot said:
No way will the ex-Ronnie Petersen Elan get anywhere near £60k.....
Surprised Derek didn't say his prices were a bit hopeful.nicanary said:
aeropilot said:
No way will the ex-Ronnie Petersen Elan get anywhere near £60k.....
The vendor should have taken the £44k offered at the first auction. That's big money for that model.WPA said:
They kept saying JPS Esprit but I am sure they did both a JPS and world champions editions.
I believe the standard JPS car had silver wheels.
Nope, gold wheels were standard on the JPS, and there were no separate JPS and World Champion editions.I believe the standard JPS car had silver wheels.
From fading memory, there was around 90 odd sold in UK, and about 40 odd sold in the ROW.
aeropilot said:
WPA said:
They kept saying JPS Esprit but I am sure they did both a JPS and world champions editions.
I believe the standard JPS car had silver wheels.
Nope, gold wheels were standard on the JPS, and there were no separate JPS and World Champion editions.I believe the standard JPS car had silver wheels.
From fading memory, there was around 90 odd sold in UK, and about 40 odd sold in the ROW.
WPA said:
aeropilot said:
WPA said:
They kept saying JPS Esprit but I am sure they did both a JPS and world champions editions.
I believe the standard JPS car had silver wheels.
Nope, gold wheels were standard on the JPS, and there were no separate JPS and World Champion editions.I believe the standard JPS car had silver wheels.
From fading memory, there was around 90 odd sold in UK, and about 40 odd sold in the ROW.
One of the guys that used to come to the Herts meet back in the mid 80's had one, and it was just like the one on the show, with the same graphics, and the gold fabric seat trim, gold wheels etc. Can't remember what number it was though....40-something rings a bell....? He was the 2nd owner.
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