Bangers and Cash - Yesterday channel
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What a stellar episode. The whole ethos of the thing was summed up for me during the Armstrong extraction process. Tim in the boiler suit behind the wheel, the guy in the red jumper, guess Tim's relation a brother maybe, behind the wheel of the towing Rangie, Derek casually overseeing operations with a brew in hand. Magic.
Then the letter of sale from the previous owner in 1964. Just a different era. What would one of those look like today? All sorts of clauses and additions prompted by chancers.
Herald, cheap, but a lot of the styling extras detracted to my eyes, still beauty in the eye of the beholder and all that. Didn't know those kerb catcher waggly stalks were even a thing.
Question to Mumbles boy, bit cheeky I know. Do you really have a crew in Thornton-le-Dale HQ in parallel to one out on the road collecting the Armstrong and Herald, or is it TV smoke and mirrors and all in the edit?
Then the letter of sale from the previous owner in 1964. Just a different era. What would one of those look like today? All sorts of clauses and additions prompted by chancers.
Herald, cheap, but a lot of the styling extras detracted to my eyes, still beauty in the eye of the beholder and all that. Didn't know those kerb catcher waggly stalks were even a thing.
Question to Mumbles boy, bit cheeky I know. Do you really have a crew in Thornton-le-Dale HQ in parallel to one out on the road collecting the Armstrong and Herald, or is it TV smoke and mirrors and all in the edit?
FiF said:
What a stellar episode. The whole ethos of the thing was summed up for me during the Armstrong extraction process. Tim in the boiler suit behind the wheel, the guy in the red jumper, guess Tim's relation a brother maybe, behind the wheel of the towing Rangie, Derek casually overseeing operations with a brew in hand. Magic.
Then the letter of sale from the previous owner in 1964. Just a different era. What would one of those look like today? All sorts of clauses and additions prompted by chancers.
Herald, cheap, but a lot of the styling extras detracted to my eyes, still beauty in the eye of the beholder and all that. Didn't know those kerb catcher waggly stalks were even a thing.
Question to Mumbles boy, bit cheeky I know. Do you really have a crew in Thornton-le-Dale HQ in parallel to one out on the road collecting the Armstrong and Herald, or is it TV smoke and mirrors and all in the edit?
The kerb catchers are very much an American thing. Quite common in the ‘50s and ‘60s, esp in the custom scene. I agree about the extras on the car - the stone guards on the headlamps, reflectors on the grille and the awful stripe and lettering on the sides, but all easily resolved. I noticed it was sold on by the trader (Morse Classics) without the kerb catchers but otherwise as is apparently.Then the letter of sale from the previous owner in 1964. Just a different era. What would one of those look like today? All sorts of clauses and additions prompted by chancers.
Herald, cheap, but a lot of the styling extras detracted to my eyes, still beauty in the eye of the beholder and all that. Didn't know those kerb catcher waggly stalks were even a thing.
Question to Mumbles boy, bit cheeky I know. Do you really have a crew in Thornton-le-Dale HQ in parallel to one out on the road collecting the Armstrong and Herald, or is it TV smoke and mirrors and all in the edit?
Escort3500 said:
FiF said:
What a stellar episode. The whole ethos of the thing was summed up for me during the Armstrong extraction process. Tim in the boiler suit behind the wheel, the guy in the red jumper, guess Tim's relation a brother maybe, behind the wheel of the towing Rangie, Derek casually overseeing operations with a brew in hand. Magic.
Then the letter of sale from the previous owner in 1964. Just a different era. What would one of those look like today? All sorts of clauses and additions prompted by chancers.
Herald, cheap, but a lot of the styling extras detracted to my eyes, still beauty in the eye of the beholder and all that. Didn't know those kerb catcher waggly stalks were even a thing.
Question to Mumbles boy, bit cheeky I know. Do you really have a crew in Thornton-le-Dale HQ in parallel to one out on the road collecting the Armstrong and Herald, or is it TV smoke and mirrors and all in the edit?
The kerb catchers are very much an American thing. Quite common in the ‘50s and ‘60s, esp in the custom scene. I agree about the extras on the car - the stone guards on the headlamps, reflectors on the grille and the awful stripe and lettering on the sides, but all easily resolved. I noticed it was sold on by the trader (Morse Classics) without the kerb catchers but otherwise as is apparently.Then the letter of sale from the previous owner in 1964. Just a different era. What would one of those look like today? All sorts of clauses and additions prompted by chancers.
Herald, cheap, but a lot of the styling extras detracted to my eyes, still beauty in the eye of the beholder and all that. Didn't know those kerb catcher waggly stalks were even a thing.
Question to Mumbles boy, bit cheeky I know. Do you really have a crew in Thornton-le-Dale HQ in parallel to one out on the road collecting the Armstrong and Herald, or is it TV smoke and mirrors and all in the edit?
FiF said:
The other thing forgot to mention about that Herald, ignoring the extras, I was very impressed about the condition of the standard chrome trim on it, e.g. door handles etc. Wonder if in years to come the grandkids will regret not getting a free classic handed down. Quite sad really.
Lot's of new parts available for old Triumphs from Rimmer Bros. I have no connection except from buying stuff for my TR6.Have to say, I thought the Herald priced about right, there were a couple of dents, bit of corrosion etc.
Don't know where the old guy get his prices of £10-18K (TR6 maybe?)
Typical though that it went to trade and with a little bit of work flipped for ???
Armstrong Sidelely, just not my cup of tea, i guessed about £1500. Was the "restorer" going to powder coat the chassis? Really?
Ariel bike must rank as the most ugly bike ever made. When you compare with say a Red Hunter.
Don't know where the old guy get his prices of £10-18K (TR6 maybe?)
Typical though that it went to trade and with a little bit of work flipped for ???
Armstrong Sidelely, just not my cup of tea, i guessed about £1500. Was the "restorer" going to powder coat the chassis? Really?
Ariel bike must rank as the most ugly bike ever made. When you compare with say a Red Hunter.
Thanks for the kind comments. Even though I have seen every frame 100 times over I still watch them when they go out for the first time. This episode is a favourite because of the recurring ‘my dad’s car’ theme. My passion for cars is totally related to the memory of my fathers Sunbeam Rapier convertible 619 UMY. White, with a red flash. Very glamorous in Aberystwyth in the early ‘60s.
The Armstrong & Herald were the same story - much more than cars. A privilege to film.
The Armstrong & Herald were the same story - much more than cars. A privilege to film.
FiF said:
What a stellar episode. The whole ethos of the thing was summed up for me during the Armstrong extraction process. Tim in the boiler suit behind the wheel, the guy in the red jumper, guess Tim's relation a brother maybe, behind the wheel of the towing Rangie, Derek casually overseeing operations with a brew in hand. Magic.
Then the letter of sale from the previous owner in 1964. Just a different era. What would one of those look like today? All sorts of clauses and additions prompted by chancers.
Herald, cheap, but a lot of the styling extras detracted to my eyes, still beauty in the eye of the beholder and all that. Didn't know those kerb catcher waggly stalks were even a thing.
Question to Mumbles boy, bit cheeky I know. Do you really have a crew in Thornton-le-Dale HQ in parallel to one out on the road collecting the Armstrong and Herald, or is it TV smoke and mirrors and all in the edit?
Firstly, apologies if I get the quote thing wrong again - I am being a bit slow on how to answer specific points.Then the letter of sale from the previous owner in 1964. Just a different era. What would one of those look like today? All sorts of clauses and additions prompted by chancers.
Herald, cheap, but a lot of the styling extras detracted to my eyes, still beauty in the eye of the beholder and all that. Didn't know those kerb catcher waggly stalks were even a thing.
Question to Mumbles boy, bit cheeky I know. Do you really have a crew in Thornton-le-Dale HQ in parallel to one out on the road collecting the Armstrong and Herald, or is it TV smoke and mirrors and all in the edit?
Excellent spot with the shot you mention with the tea, it is a classic of the Derek genre. They have all got very used to us filming now, not that Derek was ever troubled by it. I too was transfixed by the previous owner letter, the glorious handwriting said it all.
Re the filming question - yes we usually do have someone at base whilst another is out. Clearly there is a bit of licence involved with the phrase’ ‘meanwhile back at the garage....’ it is not going to be exactly at the same time but it might be, could be the same day, sometimes not. It is an observational programme though, we never get too involved in planning things as it would lose authenticity. In other words - we wing it and what you see is what happened. Good question.
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