Bangers and Cash - Yesterday channel

[pingu393]

andyA700 said:

I liked the red Tribute car, but I think this is how it should have been done. The larger engine, the seats and particularly the wheels make a huge difference.

https://www.carscoops.com/2022/06/is-this-bmw-z3-b...

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[romft123]

The " faux Ferrari" guy.....Can you believe the BS he came out with......Its not a "tribute" at all you wazzock. Its a feckin BMW with a bit of bent metal on top.

[romft123]

biggbn said:

PinkTornado said:

I don't know how people can put a 'Ferrari' badge on something that just isn't- it's a BMW, and will always be a BMW.

Even the guy who bought it seemed like he was trying too hard to convince us IMO- what you've got there mate is a fairly gutless shopping car with a pretend fancy body on it. Woo.

Every week I play a game where I have to choose one of the cars shown- this week, I honestly didn't want a single one of them. The show is just becoming background to me now.

It had the Tribute badge on it, the new owner made the point that he's not trying to pass it off as anything else. Reqlly don't see the problem. It actually looked like a nice car, decent proportions, nice interior. Still, each to their own.

FERRARI slapped in the middle so all can see it. Large prancing horse on the front, little tribute badge in the lower left corner.....PURE BS

[Geoff-agmsd]

That one was owned by me , i did the interior work , the dealer who bought it off me put the badges on , https://www.carscoops.com/2022/06/is-this-bmw-z3-b... .

[Legacywr]

tim0409 said:

The “Ferrari” wasn’t for me, but the chap who bought it clearly loves it and will get a lot of daily enjoyment from it, and I suppose that’s all that matters.

I thought the car suited him perfectly…

[pingu393]

PositronicRay said:

daqinggregg said:

Clearly it’s not going to fool anyone with knowledge of classics, but it seems the chap enjoyed building it and fair play to him.

Bit I didn’t understand, why use a 1.9 as base, when there is a 3.0 available.

I suspect the longer engine would give bonnet clearance issues.

There are no clearance issues on any Z3 other than the M. The M has larger brakes, so the 15" wheels he had won't fit.

[pingu393]

biggbn said:

It had the Tribute badge on it, the new owner made the point that he's not trying to pass it off as anything else. Reqlly don't see the problem. It actually looked like a nice car, decent proportions, nice interior. Still, each to their own.

It had the Ferrari name on the rear and there are prancing horses all over it, as well as a Ferrari badge on the front.

[pingu393]

romft123 said:

The " faux Ferrari" guy.....Can you believe the BS he came out with......Its not a "tribute" at all you wazzock. Its a feckin BMW with a bit of bent metal on top.

The only metal on it will be BMW metal

[pingu393]

romft123 said:

The " faux Ferrari" guy.....Can you believe the BS he came out with......Its not a "tribute" at all you wazzock. Its a feckin BMW with a bit of bent metal on top.

Tribute is the company who made the body. Clever use of words to confuse the unwary .

http://www.tributeautomotive.co.uk

The site is not https. I can't access it, so I don't even know if the site still exists, but the company does.

[biggbn]

pingu393 said:

biggbn said:

It had the Tribute badge on it, the new owner made the point that he's not trying to pass it off as anything else. Reqlly don't see the problem. It actually looked like a nice car, decent proportions, nice interior. Still, each to their own.

It had the Ferrari name on the rear and there are prancing horses all over it, as well as a Ferrari badge on the front.

Alongside one that clearly says Tribute. Hey, each to their own. It's a Tribute car, and a good one for the money. I can see your point if there was nothing suggesting it was a 'fake' but it was on the back panel, clear as day.

I do wonder about all of this, some restorations have a tiny percentage of 'original' metal in them...they are surely also fake? Eagle E types and the like? Built from donor cars and modernised...restomods? Modern engines etc... I've always been of the mind that once you buys something, you don't owe anybody anything, it's yours to do what you want with, so I've no problem with any of the above, or kit cars, fakes, replicas whatever. Each to their own.

[biggbn]

romft123 said:

The " faux Ferrari" guy.....Can you believe the BS he came out with......Its not a "tribute" at all you wazzock. Its a feckin BMW with a bit of bent metal on top.

Tribute is the name of the kit manufacturer. Wazzock you say?

[pingu393]

biggbn said:

pingu393 said:

biggbn said:

It had the Tribute badge on it, the new owner made the point that he's not trying to pass it off as anything else. Reqlly don't see the problem. It actually looked like a nice car, decent proportions, nice interior. Still, each to their own.

It had the Ferrari name on the rear and there are prancing horses all over it, as well as a Ferrari badge on the front.

Alongside one that clearly says Tribute. Hey, each to their own. It's a Tribute car, and a good one for the money. I can see your point if there was nothing suggesting it was a 'fake' but it was on the back panel, clear as day.

I do wonder about all of this, some restorations have a tiny percentage of 'original' metal in them...they are surely also fake? Eagle E types and the like? Built from donor cars and modernised...restomods? Modern engines etc... I've always been of the mind that once you buys something, you don't owe anybody anything, it's yours to do what you want with, so I've no problem with any of the above, or kit cars, fakes, replicas whatever. Each to their own.

I 100% agree. I bought my mate's crashed car and reshelled it with a fibreglass dress .

I made the conscious choice not to put any badges on it. It's up to anyone who sees it to guess what it is. It does say BMW M POWER on the cam cover, though .

[Promised Land]

biggbn said:

It had the Tribute badge on it, the new owner made the point that he's not trying to pass it off as anything else. Reqlly don't see the problem. It actually looked like a nice car, decent proportions, nice interior. Still, each to their own.

Surely the fact it’s got prancing horses all over it means he’s trying to pass it off as a car it is not?

Also are those black plates legal as it’s a Z3 chassis so I’d say not old enough.

As for restoring a classic with newer parts, you’re using eg parts for an Austin 1100 on an Austin 1100, a bit different to using replica Ferrari 250 parts on a BMW.

[Bluevanman]

100 years ago you bought a rolling chassis off Bentley,Rolls Royce, Bugatti or whoever and clothed it in your own design of coach built body.
Even Jay Leno has replica Bugattis, original chassis but with a look alike body .
But,no, let's only have original vehicles

[vixen1700]

If they made 2002tii body kits to go on a Z3, it would be pretty cool, a bit like the Paul Stephens retro 911s.

A shame they don't.

[aeropilot]

Bluevanman said:

I've never seen/heard anyone used the word snide to mean fake before,and here's two !

Been a long time since I heard it as well. Amazing how expression you used a lot decades earlier just stopped being used, and then you just forget them.

A few episodes ago, or may have been one of the B&C resto shows(?) I laughed out loud when I heard Derek use the expression when talking about a car they just got, and he said "You could just tonce it up, and sell it on again" ...... as I'd not heard that expression for decades, and yet I remember using it a lot back in the day.

[romft123]

biggbn said:

romft123 said:

The " faux Ferrari" guy.....Can you believe the BS he came out with......Its not a "tribute" at all you wazzock. Its a feckin BMW with a bit of bent metal on top.

Tribute is the name of the kit manufacturer. Wazzock you say?

Yes and he knows exactly that he is NOT using the "Tribute" as the manufacturer but as a tribute to ferrari....he is a wazzock.

[Smollet]

romft123 said:

biggbn said:

romft123 said:

The " faux Ferrari" guy.....Can you believe the BS he came out with......Its not a "tribute" at all you wazzock. Its a feckin BMW with a bit of bent metal on top.

Tribute is the name of the kit manufacturer. Wazzock you say?

Yes and he knows exactly that he is NOT using the "Tribute" as the manufacturer but as a tribute to ferrari....he is a wazzock.

Now I'm confused is this a Ferrari or a tribute?

[pingu393]

vixen1700 said:

If they made 2002tii body kits to go on a Z3, it would be pretty cool, a bit like the Paul Stephens retro 911s.

A shame they don't.

Tribute make 507 looky likeys.

[vixen1700]

pingu393 said:

Tribute make 507 looky likeys.

Ah right, I didn't know that.

A quick search brings up a build thread on the first of their '507's



Don't mind a change of body style like this, it kind of has a 507 look, it's not trying to be something else (Ferrari) and is better looking than a Z3. . Lower and exaggerate it a bit, change the colour and interior and it could actually look quite cool.