Bangers and Cash - Yesterday channel
Discussion
SistersofPercy said:
My late father in law was a bike hoarder, these have been stored for several years after he passed. He was quite a stickler for never running them in the wet etc and my mother in law would often find them in the house 
. Quite the character he was. Mother in law has finally conceded that he’d have wanted them to be ridden and loved like he loved them. The auction will be difficult and she’ll watch online with my husband, but it will be nice to see them go back on the road hopefully.
The 99 VFR that’s still here is like it just rolled out of the showroom. From memory it has something like 1800 miles on it, has never seen a splash of rain and is like new in every way. My daughter has had her eye on it for a few years but realistically wouldn’t use it and none of us ride. No rush to get rid of that just yet but depending how the sale goes we might send it and some other bits up there again.
Sounds like something that should be on the show.. Quite the character he was. Mother in law has finally conceded that he’d have wanted them to be ridden and loved like he loved them. The auction will be difficult and she’ll watch online with my husband, but it will be nice to see them go back on the road hopefully. The 99 VFR that’s still here is like it just rolled out of the showroom. From memory it has something like 1800 miles on it, has never seen a splash of rain and is like new in every way. My daughter has had her eye on it for a few years but realistically wouldn’t use it and none of us ride. No rush to get rid of that just yet but depending how the sale goes we might send it and some other bits up there again.
jeff666 said:
aeropilot said:
Quite.
I bet if you parked that red Tribute that was on B&C, in a street, festooned as it is with Ferrari badges, over 75% (if not higher) of people walking past would think it was a real one....only car nerds would spot it wasn't a real one. The percentage would be lower of course if it was started up for the public, as even the car-uneducated would likely then realise that something was not right
I had a Tribute 250 SWB on a Z3 I bet if you parked that red Tribute that was on B&C, in a street, festooned as it is with Ferrari badges, over 75% (if not higher) of people walking past would think it was a real one....only car nerds would spot it wasn't a real one. The percentage would be lower of course if it was started up for the public, as even the car-uneducated would likely then realise that something was not right
and also a 250 GTO replica / tribute / homage I didn't put F badges on either of them, without badges the questions came thick and fast, with badges most people just smiled knowingly
The badged one here on the right was a customer car, mine on the left.
Bluevanman said:
LARK F1 GTR said:
I saw a chap with a Toyota MR2 / Ferrari Dino copy a while ago. The plate on it was far too new for a Dino, so I said nice car, what is it though? He said a Ferrari Dino. I said it can't be a Dino looking the reg on it, he conceded and said, ok it's an MR2.
Maybe I was a bit over the top asking him about it, but I think rule number 1, don't leave the original plate on it! Number 2, don't actually say it's a Dino, anyone can check what it is! It did look ok though.
Your mistake was not telling him the Dino wasn't actually a FerrariMaybe I was a bit over the top asking him about it, but I think rule number 1, don't leave the original plate on it! Number 2, don't actually say it's a Dino, anyone can check what it is! It did look ok though.
rossub said:
SistersofPercy said:
My late father in law was a bike hoarder, these have been stored for several years after he passed. He was quite a stickler for never running them in the wet etc and my mother in law would often find them in the house . Quite the character he was. Mother in law has finally conceded that he’d have wanted them to be ridden and loved like he loved them. The auction will be difficult and she’ll watch online with my husband, but it will be nice to see them go back on the road hopefully.
The 99 VFR that’s still here is like it just rolled out of the showroom. From memory it has something like 1800 miles on it, has never seen a splash of rain and is like new in every way. My daughter has had her eye on it for a few years but realistically wouldn’t use it and none of us ride. No rush to get rid of that just yet but depending how the sale goes we might send it and some other bits up there again.
Sounds like something that should be on the show.. Quite the character he was. Mother in law has finally conceded that he’d have wanted them to be ridden and loved like he loved them. The auction will be difficult and she’ll watch online with my husband, but it will be nice to see them go back on the road hopefully. The 99 VFR that’s still here is like it just rolled out of the showroom. From memory it has something like 1800 miles on it, has never seen a splash of rain and is like new in every way. My daughter has had her eye on it for a few years but realistically wouldn’t use it and none of us ride. No rush to get rid of that just yet but depending how the sale goes we might send it and some other bits up there again.
There is so mush tripe, spoken and written about these cars from people who don’t have a clue what they are talking about.
The 208 GT4 was sold only in Italy and was designed to avoid punitive new Italian taxes on cars with engine capacities of more than 2.0 litres. The Ferrari engine is one of several 2.0-litre V8s to be produced, all by Italian makers. Yet its 1990.64 cc capacity undercut rivals, if only by a few cubic millimetres. It still remains the lowest capacity V8 road car ever built.
Yep it was a slow old donkey.
Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h (62mph) in a brisk 7.7 seconds, and maximum speed was 220 km/h (137 mph). Its little V8 still sang to a heady and musical 7700 rpm.
I think it’s safe to say, it was a master class in design and engineering.
The 208 GT4 was sold only in Italy and was designed to avoid punitive new Italian taxes on cars with engine capacities of more than 2.0 litres. The Ferrari engine is one of several 2.0-litre V8s to be produced, all by Italian makers. Yet its 1990.64 cc capacity undercut rivals, if only by a few cubic millimetres. It still remains the lowest capacity V8 road car ever built.
Yep it was a slow old donkey.
Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h (62mph) in a brisk 7.7 seconds, and maximum speed was 220 km/h (137 mph). Its little V8 still sang to a heady and musical 7700 rpm.
I think it’s safe to say, it was a master class in design and engineering.
daqinggregg said:
There is so mush tripe, spoken and written about these cars from people who don’t have a clue what they are talking about.
The 208 GT4 was sold only in Italy and was designed to avoid punitive new Italian taxes on cars with engine capacities of more than 2.0 litres. The Ferrari engine is one of several 2.0-litre V8s to be produced, all by Italian makers. Yet its 1990.64 cc capacity undercut rivals, if only by a few cubic millimetres. It still remains the lowest capacity V8 road car ever built.
Yep it was a slow old donkey.
Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h (62mph) in a brisk 7.7 seconds, and maximum speed was 220 km/h (137 mph). Its little V8 still sang to a heady and musical 7700 rpm.
I think it’s safe to say, it was a master class in design and engineering.
....I had thought they were talking about the earler Dino badged cars, the 206 and 246, stunning, lithe little cars? These engines were v6s. On the GT4 you refer to, they were, indeed, v8s and for tax reasons, culminating in a turbocharged version in the 208 GTB, or 'the Magnum' shape Ferraris for us heathens. Ferrari were no strangers to small engines with big cylinder counts, I'm sure the Columbo v12 started as a 1.5!!! The 208 GT4 was sold only in Italy and was designed to avoid punitive new Italian taxes on cars with engine capacities of more than 2.0 litres. The Ferrari engine is one of several 2.0-litre V8s to be produced, all by Italian makers. Yet its 1990.64 cc capacity undercut rivals, if only by a few cubic millimetres. It still remains the lowest capacity V8 road car ever built.
Yep it was a slow old donkey.
Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h (62mph) in a brisk 7.7 seconds, and maximum speed was 220 km/h (137 mph). Its little V8 still sang to a heady and musical 7700 rpm.
I think it’s safe to say, it was a master class in design and engineering.
Edited by biggbn on Thursday 11th April 07:04
daqinggregg said:
There is so mush tripe, spoken and written about these cars from people who don’t have a clue what they are talking about.
The 208 GT4 was sold only in Italy and was designed to avoid punitive new Italian taxes on cars with engine capacities of more than 2.0 litres. The Ferrari engine is one of several 2.0-litre V8s to be produced, all by Italian makers. Yet its 1990.64 cc capacity undercut rivals, if only by a few cubic millimetres. It still remains the lowest capacity V8 road car ever built.
Yep it was a slow old donkey.
Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h (62mph) in a brisk 7.7 seconds, and maximum speed was 220 km/h (137 mph). Its little V8 still sang to a heady and musical 7700 rpm.
I think it’s safe to say, it was a master class in design and engineering.
Somebody has been on Wikipedia......and is talking about a completely different car.The 208 GT4 was sold only in Italy and was designed to avoid punitive new Italian taxes on cars with engine capacities of more than 2.0 litres. The Ferrari engine is one of several 2.0-litre V8s to be produced, all by Italian makers. Yet its 1990.64 cc capacity undercut rivals, if only by a few cubic millimetres. It still remains the lowest capacity V8 road car ever built.
Yep it was a slow old donkey.
Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h (62mph) in a brisk 7.7 seconds, and maximum speed was 220 km/h (137 mph). Its little V8 still sang to a heady and musical 7700 rpm.
I think it’s safe to say, it was a master class in design and engineering.
Embarrassing
daqinggregg said:
<clip> The 208 GT4 ...
Yep it was a slow old donkey. Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h (62mph) in a brisk 7.7 seconds, and maximum speed was 220 km/h (137 mph). Its little V8 still sang to a heady and musical 7700 rpm...
So not quite as brisk as the 2.0 TVR V8S with 0-62 in 6.5 and 144 mph top speed. Yep it was a slow old donkey. Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h (62mph) in a brisk 7.7 seconds, and maximum speed was 220 km/h (137 mph). Its little V8 still sang to a heady and musical 7700 rpm...
Bluevanman said:
Somebody has been on Wikipedia......and is talking about a completely different car.
Embarrassing
I can assure you, I’ve not used wiki, and the sources I used were:Embarrassing
https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/magazine/articles/di...
And a reprinted article on the 308 GT4 from Road and Track magazine:
https://www.curbsideclassic.com/vintage-reviews/ro...
I know I’m not talking about the same car, but I get frustrated by the rubbish people talk /print about Dino’s in general.
IMO the Dino 246GT/GTS is one of the most beautiful cars ever built.
The 208 GT4/308GT4, again in my opinion, is a master piece of design and engineering, often maligned by those who either don’t understand it or are talking cobblers.
I’m not embarrassed; I’m just amazed at the Italians ability to get so much performance out of a small displacement engine.
daqinggregg said:
I can assure you, I’ve not used wiki, and the sources I used were:
https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/magazine/articles/di...
And a reprinted article on the 308 GT4 from Road and Track magazine:
https://www.curbsideclassic.com/vintage-reviews/ro...
I know I’m not talking about the same car, but I get frustrated by the rubbish people talk /print about Dino’s in general.
IMO the Dino 246GT/GTS is one of the most beautiful cars ever built.
The 208 GT4/308GT4, again in my opinion, is a master piece of design and engineering, often maligned by those who either don’t understand it or are talking cobblers.
I’m not embarrassed; I’m just amazed at the Italians ability to get so much performance out of a small displacement engine.
Why bring up a different vehicle to the one being discussed.If the discussion was about a Ford Escort you wouldn't start talking about Granadas would you.....we'll you would obviously https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/magazine/articles/di...
And a reprinted article on the 308 GT4 from Road and Track magazine:
https://www.curbsideclassic.com/vintage-reviews/ro...
I know I’m not talking about the same car, but I get frustrated by the rubbish people talk /print about Dino’s in general.
IMO the Dino 246GT/GTS is one of the most beautiful cars ever built.
The 208 GT4/308GT4, again in my opinion, is a master piece of design and engineering, often maligned by those who either don’t understand it or are talking cobblers.
I’m not embarrassed; I’m just amazed at the Italians ability to get so much performance out of a small displacement engine.
Edited by Bluevanman on Thursday 11th April 10:53
clive_candy said:
Yep, if Mumbles Boy still frequented the forum Sisters might well have been getting a call!
I can’t see the other half wanting five minutes of fame tbh. I owe you all an apology anyway, the Star fire is not one of ours I realise. The rest are correct but I added the star fire rather than the actual bike which is the 76 Triumph T140v.
So many of the buggers it’s confusing
Why bring up a different vehicle to the one being discussed.If the discussion was about a Ford Escort you wouldn't start talking about Granada's would you.....we'll you would obviously rofl
The discussion, was vaguely about Dino’s, but you are correct in your analogy, point taken. I wasn’t having a dig at you.
The discussion, was vaguely about Dino’s, but you are correct in your analogy, point taken. I wasn’t having a dig at you.
RichB said:
daqinggregg said:
<clip> The 208 GT4/308GT4, again in my opinion, is a master piece of design and engineering, often maligned by those who either don’t understand it or are talking cobblers.
Insulting those who disagree with you is not a good way to try to validate your opinion. There is IMO good video (I believe on you tube) ‘Badge of shame or honour’ Jason Cammisa.
daqinggregg said:
Why bring up a different vehicle to the one being discussed.If the discussion was about a Ford Escort you wouldn't start talking about Granada's would you.....we'll you would obviously rofl
The discussion, was vaguely about Dino’s, but you are correct in your analogy, point taken. I wasn’t having a dig at you.
Sorry for bringing the 206/246, 208/308 thing up, I genuinely thought you were confused about what was being discussed. To muddy the waters further, the 'Dino' engines were allegedly the brainchild of Dino Ferrari, although designed by Vittorio Jano. These v6 engines were raving engines but ultimately ended up in cars as diveres as the Dino, the Fiat Dino and the Lancia Stratos, so they went from jewell like 1.5s up to 2.4The discussion, was vaguely about Dino’s, but you are correct in your analogy, point taken. I wasn’t having a dig at you.
biggbn said:
daqinggregg said:
Why bring up a different vehicle to the one being discussed.If the discussion was about a Ford Escort you wouldn't start talking about Granada's would you.....we'll you would obviously rofl
The discussion, was vaguely about Dino’s, but you are correct in your analogy, point taken. I wasn’t having a dig at you.
Sorry for bringing the 206/246, 208/308 thing up, I genuinely thought you were confused about what was being discussed. To muddy the waters further, the 'Dino' engines were allegedly the brainchild of Dino Ferrari, although designed by Vittorio Jano. These v6 engines were raving engines but ultimately ended up in cars as diveres as the Dino, the Fiat Dino and the Lancia Stratos, so they went from jewell like 1.5s up to 2.4The discussion, was vaguely about Dino’s, but you are correct in your analogy, point taken. I wasn’t having a dig at you.
WPA said:
biggbn said:
daqinggregg said:
Why bring up a different vehicle to the one being discussed.If the discussion was about a Ford Escort you wouldn't start talking about Granada's would you.....we'll you would obviously rofl
The discussion, was vaguely about Dino’s, but you are correct in your analogy, point taken. I wasn’t having a dig at you.
Sorry for bringing the 206/246, 208/308 thing up, I genuinely thought you were confused about what was being discussed. To muddy the waters further, the 'Dino' engines were allegedly the brainchild of Dino Ferrari, although designed by Vittorio Jano. These v6 engines were raving engines but ultimately ended up in cars as diveres as the Dino, the Fiat Dino and the Lancia Stratos, so they went from jewell like 1.5s up to 2.4The discussion, was vaguely about Dino’s, but you are correct in your analogy, point taken. I wasn’t having a dig at you.
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