The official PH Coronation Street thread (Vol 2)

The official PH Coronation Street thread (Vol 2)

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coppice

8,615 posts

144 months

Sunday 7th April
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Wacky Racer said:
"Soap in budgeting row" headlines the Sunday Mirror as it reports on Coronation Street actors "angry" over a cut in hours to save cash. It claims "cash-strapped" bosses have caused panic slashing the number of stars in storylines. The tabloid quotes one insider saying of Corrie stars: "Some haven't filmed for weeks."

Far too many "actors" in the show, they could get rid of half of them and you wouldn't even notice. You never see the quads for weeks,
A tad unfair - legal limits apply to filming of children and I , for one would certainly notice absences of most of the cast . As for the presumably pejorative 'actors' I think most of them do a very decent job , and some outstandingly so. It is only when one encounters an actor who really shouldn't be there - Wooden Will .notoriously and Am Dram Liam - that the performance of most of the cast comes into sharper focus . And , most unfairly, actors sometimes get blamed for poor scripts. They don't get much time for rehearsals and it's not multi take Hollywood or Netflix , I think they do a decent job. Enough to keep me ensnared for many years anyway .

eldar

21,763 posts

196 months

Sunday 7th April
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coppice said:
A tad unfair - legal limits apply to filming of children and I , for one would certainly notice absences of most of the cast . As for the presumably pejorative 'actors' I think most of them do a very decent job , and some outstandingly so. It is only when one encounters an actor who really shouldn't be there - Wooden Will .notoriously and Am Dram Liam - that the performance of most of the cast comes into sharper focus . And , most unfairly, actors sometimes get blamed for poor scripts. They don't get much time for rehearsals and it's not multi take Hollywood or Netflix , I think they do a decent job. Enough to keep me ensnared for many years anyway .
How would you reduce the budget by the supposed 15%?


nicanary

9,795 posts

146 months

Sunday 7th April
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eldar said:
coppice said:
A tad unfair - legal limits apply to filming of children and I , for one would certainly notice absences of most of the cast . As for the presumably pejorative 'actors' I think most of them do a very decent job , and some outstandingly so. It is only when one encounters an actor who really shouldn't be there - Wooden Will .notoriously and Am Dram Liam - that the performance of most of the cast comes into sharper focus . And , most unfairly, actors sometimes get blamed for poor scripts. They don't get much time for rehearsals and it's not multi take Hollywood or Netflix , I think they do a decent job. Enough to keep me ensnared for many years anyway .
How would you reduce the budget by the supposed 15%?
Stop paying Ken and Rita so much biggrin As I understand it, these two are on 6-figure salaries even though they hardly appear. Let 'em die off.

eldar

21,763 posts

196 months

Sunday 7th April
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nicanary said:
eldar said:
coppice said:
A tad unfair - legal limits apply to filming of children and I , for one would certainly notice absences of most of the cast . As for the presumably pejorative 'actors' I think most of them do a very decent job , and some outstandingly so. It is only when one encounters an actor who really shouldn't be there - Wooden Will .notoriously and Am Dram Liam - that the performance of most of the cast comes into sharper focus . And , most unfairly, actors sometimes get blamed for poor scripts. They don't get much time for rehearsals and it's not multi take Hollywood or Netflix , I think they do a decent job. Enough to keep me ensnared for many years anyway .
How would you reduce the budget by the supposed 15%?
Stop paying Ken and Rita so much biggrin As I understand it, these two are on 6-figure salaries even though they hardly appear. Let 'em die off.
Hard to argue with that. Who else could be removed without much impact.? The vicar, certainly.

Fermit

12,979 posts

100 months

Sunday 7th April
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eldar said:
Hard to argue with that. Who else could be removed without much impact.? The vicar, certainly.
Michael Le Vell AKA Kevin Webster. One of the longer serving actors, accordingly, probably on a fair old wage. What does he bring to things? The odd huff and grunt, and employment of whoever the reprobate of the moment is.

coppice

8,615 posts

144 months

Sunday 7th April
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eldar said:
coppice said:
A tad unfair - legal limits apply to filming of children and I , for one would certainly notice absences of most of the cast . As for the presumably pejorative 'actors' I think most of them do a very decent job , and some outstandingly so. It is only when one encounters an actor who really shouldn't be there - Wooden Will .notoriously and Am Dram Liam - that the performance of most of the cast comes into sharper focus . And , most unfairly, actors sometimes get blamed for poor scripts. They don't get much time for rehearsals and it's not multi take Hollywood or Netflix , I think they do a decent job. Enough to keep me ensnared for many years anyway .
How would you reduce the budget by the supposed 15%?
I have no idea - it's hardly my problem . I was defending the standard of acting , not playing at being an accountant.

eldar

21,763 posts

196 months

Sunday 7th April
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Fermit said:
Michael Le Vell AKA Kevin Webster. One of the longer serving actors, accordingly, probably on a fair old wage. What does he bring to things? The odd huff and grunt, and employment of whoever the reprobate of the moment is.
He always has the cleanest overalls seen on a mechanic.

A500leroy

5,133 posts

118 months

Sunday 7th April
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eldar said:
Hard to argue with that. Who else could be removed without much impact.? The vicar, certainly.
Daisy
Jenny
Kirk
Edd and son
Undertaker
Asha
Adey
Yazmeeeeen
Whoever her partner is
Aubry
Gail

(that enough?)

Fermit

12,979 posts

100 months

Sunday 7th April
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A500leroy said:
Daisy
Was your mouth out cloud9

cuprabob

14,651 posts

214 months

Sunday 7th April
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andymc said:
eldar said:
Wacky Racer said:
"Soap in budgeting row" headlines the Sunday Mirror as it reports on Coronation Street actors "angry" over a cut in hours to save cash. It claims "cash-strapped" bosses have caused panic slashing the number of stars in storylines. The tabloid quotes one insider saying of Corrie stars: "Some haven't filmed for weeks."

Far too many "actors" in the show, they could get rid of half of them and you wouldn't even notice. You never see the quads for weeks,
TV advertising revenues uncertain, Corrie viewing figures falling, time for a bit of pruning and fewer ludicrous storylines.
stop the hollyoaks type story lines
Yes but bring in the Hollyoaks casting team smile

Wacky Racer

38,165 posts

247 months

Sunday 7th April
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coppice said:
Far too many "actors" in the show, they could get rid of half of them and you wouldn't even notice. You never see the quads for weeks,
A tad unfair - legal limits apply to filming of children and I , for one would certainly notice absences of most of the cast . As for the presumably pejorative 'actors' I think most of them do a very decent job , and some outstandingly so. It is only when one encounters an actor who really shouldn't be there - Wooden Will .notoriously and Am Dram Liam - that the performance of most of the cast comes into sharper focus . And , most unfairly, actors sometimes get blamed for poor scripts. They don't get much time for rehearsals and it's not multi take Hollywood or Netflix , I think they do a decent job. Enough to keep me ensnared for many years anyway .
My reference to the quads was tongue in cheek, I appreciate they have nurseries, etc to go to.





Wacky Racer

38,165 posts

247 months

Sunday 7th April
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Here's a question:-

Who do you think is the best "actor" on the cobbles, both male and female?

By that. I mean someone who in real life is nothing like or sounds like their Street personality, because I am sure many of them are just like that off set.

For instance Les Battersby's "Cilla" is actually quite refined in real life.

coppice

8,615 posts

144 months

Monday 8th April
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I'd define good acting not so much as becoming someone else (which every decent actor can do ) but by a whole range of techniques

- conveying emotion by the subtlest change in expression
- by adding nuance and new meaning to even a wooden script
- by inhabiting your character
- by knowing when to pause and when to rush
- by reacting to someone else's speech rather than just waiting for your cue
- by being able to become a range of characters , rather than being stereotyped in one role

The last is damn hard to achieve if your whole life is spent in one role .For example , I suspect Steve MacDonald , great though he is in his role, would not make a god Hamlet.

Roy is wonderful - and I'd love to see the actor in a Pinter or Stoppard play . We already know Maureen Lipman is sublime, but with her experience that is no surprise. My wild card Shakespearean nominees are Carla as Lady Macbeth, Dev as Coriolanus , Gemma as Ariel and Ken as King Lear ,

Wacky Racer

38,165 posts

247 months

Monday 8th April
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I've actually seen Ken (William Roach) live on stage twice many years ago playing other characters and he was really good, in fact he is excellent in Corrie when he gets a decent storyline, for example the love triangle with Deidre and Mike Baldwin.

ferret50

913 posts

9 months

Monday 8th April
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A500leroy said:
Daisy
Jenny
Kirk
Edd and son
Undertaker
Asha
Adey
Yazmeeeeen
Whoever her partner is
Aubry
Gail

(that enough?)
Nooooo!

Not Daisy, I'll contribute to 'er wage.....
Not Asda, but not 'so' desperate there
Aldi can go
Kirk certainly can go

On the wall about a few others such as
Jenny
Ed and family (we must'nt be seen as being racist, must we?)
Gail can go, But certainly not Sara and Bethany....perhaps we could see even more of Bethany?biggrin

200Plus Club

10,770 posts

278 months

Monday 8th April
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Ed and Aggie story is dead anyway now
Kirk adds nothing and is only in for comedy value (limited)
Kevin and his garage - what recent story of any interest?
Fizz - likewise, literally no character story or interest since she returned from wherever it was
The teenage bullying story is almost done, get rid of the bully and Shauns lad.
Goth lady in the cafe- her story is done, what does she add to anything
Likewise Billy once Paul has shuffled off at long last.
Todd/Aileen/funeral director add nothing

Look back over the last few years and the amount of nonsense dead end storylines is horrific tbh, we've ended up back relying on the same few strong characters recently

A500leroy

5,133 posts

118 months

Monday 8th April
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We need more Mary, maybe she can rent Trace's shop?

eldar

21,763 posts

196 months

Monday 8th April
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200Plus Club said:
Ed and Aggie story is dead anyway now
Kirk adds nothing and is only in for comedy value (limited)
Kevin and his garage - what recent story of any interest?
Fizz - likewise, literally no character story or interest since she returned from wherever it was
The teenage bullying story is almost done, get rid of the bully and Shauns lad.
Goth lady in the cafe- her story is done, what does she add to anything
Likewise Billy once Paul has shuffled off at long last.
Todd/Aileen/funeral director add nothing

Look back over the last few years and the amount of nonsense dead end storylines is horrific tbh, we've ended up back relying on the same few strong characters recently
we've got all the excitement of the sinkhole, low traffic zone and all the other significant events i've forgotten about. and a few buried bodies.

Red9zero

6,858 posts

57 months

Monday 8th April
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A500leroy said:
We need more Mary, maybe she can rent Trace's shop?
Has it been mentioned what is happening to the shop ? Agreed though, Mary would be ideal to take it over.

Fermit

12,979 posts

100 months

Monday 8th April
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Red9zero said:
Has it been mentioned what is happening to the shop ? Agreed though, Mary would be ideal to take it over.
I don't think so, but short of pretending it never existed I'd imagine she'll just stay there.