BBC War of the Worlds

BBC War of the Worlds

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Brigand

2,527 posts

127 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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Don't worry, you've still got the anti-colonialism and environmentalism / climate change insinuations to come!

It is a dire series, the show that some of us were discussing some weeks ago when it was shown in New Zealand was two ninety minute episodes, and the BBC have made it into three sixty minute shows to fit in with their schedule. Those of us waiting for the key moments from the book or Jeff Wayne are going to be disappointed.

The period setting is good (although the book is set in the late 1890's rather than the early 1900-teens) but the changes to the martians, their noises, heat rays, 'balls' etc annoyed the die-hard fan of the book and Jeff Wayne's musical that I am. Initially I thought the addition of the woman would be so we could see the events of the book from another person's perspective, as much of the book was the narrator relaying second-hand accounts, but it quickly becomes a tiresome and irrelevant sub-plot.

Overall a waste of an attempt in my opinion, it just don't really see why the director changed it so much, even down to putting the martians in balls instead of cylinders, how has that improved things over the original?

Clockwork Cupcake

64,366 posts

230 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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Fundoreen said:
Its some bbc twonk trying to be really clever clever with the script and weaving bits of HG Wells own life into the WOTW story.
Indeed.

I have read that HG (Herbert George) Wells was married to his cousin, and they agreed to separate because he had fallen in love with Amy Catherine Robbins, and with whom he moved to Woking. During that time he wrote War of the Worlds, which he set in and around Woking.

The fact that the protagonists in this BBC series are George and Amy is without doubt not a coincidence. smile

(In the book, the protagonists are unnamed)

SpudLink

3,060 posts

150 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
One thing that really jarred with me, oddly, is why if being unmarried and living in sin was so scandalous and shocking, was it perfectly ok for them to be showing public displays of affection, kissing and smooching in public, etc. Or had attitudes towards this relaxed somewhat in Edwardian times compared to the more up-tight Victorian times?
Apparently they met at “the society for free thinkers”, so I guess they refuse to be bound by the moral norms of the day. Which is a good way to end up ostracised and unemployable.

In general I agree with the views on this thread. It’s a mediocre Sunday evening BBC period drama that’s pushing the current BBC social agenda. Not really my sort of thing.

But I’ll stick with it.

warch

2,276 posts

112 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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SpudLink said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
One thing that really jarred with me, oddly, is why if being unmarried and living in sin was so scandalous and shocking, was it perfectly ok for them to be showing public displays of affection, kissing and smooching in public, etc. Or had attitudes towards this relaxed somewhat in Edwardian times compared to the more up-tight Victorian times?
Apparently they met at “the society for free thinkers”, so I guess they refuse to be bound by the moral norms of the day. Which is a good way to end up ostracised and unemployable.

In general I agree with the views on this thread. It’s a mediocre Sunday evening BBC period drama that’s pushing the current BBC social agenda. Not really my sort of thing.

But I’ll stick with it.
There was a movement from the late 19th century onwards towards Bohemianism, especially amongst writers and artists, which manifested itself in unconventional relationships, free love, sex outside of marriage etc. Mainstream culture was uptight about this sort of thing until at least the end of the 20th century, but it did exist regardless of social disapproval.

Still rather see maahoosive gun metal grey tripodal alien war machines in my hour of Edwardian sci fi though....

Clockwork Cupcake

64,366 posts

230 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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warch said:
There was a movement from the late 19th century onwards towards Bohemianism, especially amongst writers and artists, which manifested itself in unconventional relationships, free love, sex outside of marriage etc. Mainstream culture was uptight about this sort of thing until at least the end of the 20th century, but it did exist regardless of social disapproval.

Still rather see maahoosive gun metal grey tripodal alien war machines in my hour of Edwardian sci fi though....
Indeed. And if they had the luxury of the sprawling multi-season runtime of Game of Thrones or Downton Abbey, then perhaps such things might be interesting to pursue. But, given the very limited runtime of 3 hours, it seems like unnecessary baggage and padding in something too short to afford the luxury of such padding.

anonymous-user

12 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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What I can’t work out is why the scriptwriters thought it would be a good idea to change whole chunks of the story and add subplots/flash forwards and other irrelevant faff.

They could have run this very closely to the original story, which would have made this most accurate/definitive screen version yet. If they had done this you could bet that it would have had a life in the DVD/BluRay, streaming market for years to come. As the Jeff Wayne Musical Version has for the last 40 years.

Instead, people aren’t even sticking with this drivel for episode 2 and 3. It will largely be forgotten about in a months time. What commercial sense was there for going off on a tangent and killing any potential follow on revenue by deviating so far from the original story.

james-witton

1,330 posts

65 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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I think that there is still time for the BBC to shoehorn in some more LBGTQ or BAME characters into an Edwardian, white, heterosexual society? I would be disappointed if they didn’t. I’m guessing the ship will not be called Thunderchild but The Thunberg.

But more seriously what was that about the Heath Robinson like teas-made? Will it turn out to be the saviour of mankind? Maybe instead of micro-organisms those naughty Martians are felled by a sub-standard brew. Obviously sub-standard as a result of the poor suppressed workers under an unjust imperialistic regime. Somebody needs to apologise.

RemyMartin81D

5,854 posts

163 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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Supraman said:
What I can’t work out is why the scriptwriters thought it would be a good idea to change whole chunks of the story and add subplots/flash forwards and other irrelevant faff.

They could have run this very closely to the original story, which would have made this most accurate/definitive screen version yet. If they had done this you could bet that it would have had a life in the DVD/BluRay, streaming market for years to come. As the Jeff Wayne Musical Version has for the last 40 years.

Instead, people aren’t even sticking with this drivel for episode 2 and 3. It will largely be forgotten about in a months time. What commercial sense was there for going off on a tangent and killing any potential follow on revenue by deviating so far from the original story.
BecauseBBC. Its a shame but its done now, I've accepted that its a steaming turd of an adaptation. I hoped the crazy number of bad reviews on IMDB was not a fair reflection but it is.

Its Just Adz

9,876 posts

167 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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Was really looking forward to this, but reading the reviews I don't think I'll bother.

Crossflow Kid

12,280 posts

149 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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El stovey said:


IMDb reviews pretty much reflecting this thread. hehe
laugh

Halmyre

8,399 posts

97 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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Is it because WotW is in the public domain that screenwriters think they can fk about with it at will?

warch

2,276 posts

112 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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There weren't quite as many songs or musical numbers as I remember either. Jeff Wayne will be spinning in his grave spin

Zirconia

Original Poster:

36,010 posts

242 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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warch said:
There weren't quite as many songs or musical numbers as I remember either. Jeff Wayne will be spinning in his grave spin
He was looking quite well last December in Cardiff conducting his show.

croyde

17,100 posts

188 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Zirconia said:
warch said:
There weren't quite as many songs or musical numbers as I remember either. Jeff Wayne will be spinning in his grave spin
He was looking quite well last December in Cardiff conducting his show.
hehe

droopsnoot

8,097 posts

200 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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james-witton said:
But more seriously what was that about the Heath Robinson like teas-made? Will it turn out to be the saviour of mankind? Maybe instead of micro-organisms those naughty Martians are felled by a sub-standard brew. Obviously sub-standard as a result of the poor suppressed workers under an unjust imperialistic regime. Somebody needs to apologise.
They'll fall victim to the problem with all teasmade-like products - the milk's been out in a warm bedroom all night.

I'm quite enjoying it, but then I (a) haven't read the book, and (b) am easily entertained, usually, though I've noticed (and been irritated by) a lot of the stuff people have commented on, such as the pointless digging and the polystyrene wooden beams. But I have to keep reminding myself it's not a TV adaptation of the Jeff Wayne record, which is the only other version I've experienced in full. Oh, and some parts of the Tom Cruise film, but that always starts at a time where I'm going to the pub halfway through and it never seems worth recording the rest.

Fundoreen

1,757 posts

41 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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George could have just pretended to break up with here and gone back to the big mansion and his wife.
Pankhurst telescope lady could have been his bit on the side and this way his brother is happy as in these conservative god fearing uptight times that sort of thing is fine.
I guess we will never know due to the events that are unfolding.

Halb

51,731 posts

141 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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droopsnoot said:
They'll fall victim to the problem with all teasmade-like products - the milk's been out in a warm bedroom all night.
possibly some sort of small cow is need? to live in the teasmaid?

james-witton

1,330 posts

65 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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Halb said:
droopsnoot said:
They'll fall victim to the problem with all teasmade-like products - the milk's been out in a warm bedroom all night.
possibly some sort of small cow is need? to live in the teasmaid?
Nicola Sturgeon?

Halb

51,731 posts

141 months

Wednesday 20th November 2019
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james-witton said:
Halb said:
droopsnoot said:
They'll fall victim to the problem with all teasmade-like products - the milk's been out in a warm bedroom all night.
possibly some sort of small cow is need? to live in the teasmaid?
Nicola Sturgeon?
Ooo, mean. How about a rat instead. Rats milk?

peterperkins

2,533 posts

200 months

Friday 22nd November 2019
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What a steaming turd of a program.

Give me the 1950's film or the book anyday.