BBC War of the Worlds

BBC War of the Worlds

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Brigand

2,504 posts

117 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Don't worry, you've still got the anti-colonialism and environmentalism / climate change insinuations to come!

It is a dire series, the show that some of us were discussing some weeks ago when it was shown in New Zealand was two ninety minute episodes, and the BBC have made it into three sixty minute shows to fit in with their schedule. Those of us waiting for the key moments from the book or Jeff Wayne are going to be disappointed.

The period setting is good (although the book is set in the late 1890's rather than the early 1900-teens) but the changes to the martians, their noises, heat rays, 'balls' etc annoyed the die-hard fan of the book and Jeff Wayne's musical that I am. Initially I thought the addition of the woman would be so we could see the events of the book from another person's perspective, as much of the book was the narrator relaying second-hand accounts, but it quickly becomes a tiresome and irrelevant sub-plot.

Overall a waste of an attempt in my opinion, it just don't really see why the director changed it so much, even down to putting the martians in balls instead of cylinders, how has that improved things over the original?

Clockwork Cupcake

62,156 posts

220 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Fundoreen said:
Its some bbc twonk trying to be really clever clever with the script and weaving bits of HG Wells own life into the WOTW story.
Indeed.

I have read that HG (Herbert George) Wells was married to his cousin, and they agreed to separate because he had fallen in love with Amy Catherine Robbins, and with whom he moved to Woking. During that time he wrote War of the Worlds, which he set in and around Woking.

The fact that the protagonists in this BBC series are George and Amy is without doubt not a coincidence. smile

(In the book, the protagonists are unnamed)

SpudLink

2,646 posts

140 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
One thing that really jarred with me, oddly, is why if being unmarried and living in sin was so scandalous and shocking, was it perfectly ok for them to be showing public displays of affection, kissing and smooching in public, etc. Or had attitudes towards this relaxed somewhat in Edwardian times compared to the more up-tight Victorian times?
Apparently they met at “the society for free thinkers”, so I guess they refuse to be bound by the moral norms of the day. Which is a good way to end up ostracised and unemployable.

In general I agree with the views on this thread. It’s a mediocre Sunday evening BBC period drama that’s pushing the current BBC social agenda. Not really my sort of thing.

But I’ll stick with it.

warch

1,825 posts

102 months

Tuesday 19th November
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SpudLink said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
One thing that really jarred with me, oddly, is why if being unmarried and living in sin was so scandalous and shocking, was it perfectly ok for them to be showing public displays of affection, kissing and smooching in public, etc. Or had attitudes towards this relaxed somewhat in Edwardian times compared to the more up-tight Victorian times?
Apparently they met at “the society for free thinkers”, so I guess they refuse to be bound by the moral norms of the day. Which is a good way to end up ostracised and unemployable.

In general I agree with the views on this thread. It’s a mediocre Sunday evening BBC period drama that’s pushing the current BBC social agenda. Not really my sort of thing.

But I’ll stick with it.
There was a movement from the late 19th century onwards towards Bohemianism, especially amongst writers and artists, which manifested itself in unconventional relationships, free love, sex outside of marriage etc. Mainstream culture was uptight about this sort of thing until at least the end of the 20th century, but it did exist regardless of social disapproval.

Still rather see maahoosive gun metal grey tripodal alien war machines in my hour of Edwardian sci fi though....

Clockwork Cupcake

62,156 posts

220 months

Tuesday 19th November
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warch said:
There was a movement from the late 19th century onwards towards Bohemianism, especially amongst writers and artists, which manifested itself in unconventional relationships, free love, sex outside of marriage etc. Mainstream culture was uptight about this sort of thing until at least the end of the 20th century, but it did exist regardless of social disapproval.

Still rather see maahoosive gun metal grey tripodal alien war machines in my hour of Edwardian sci fi though....
Indeed. And if they had the luxury of the sprawling multi-season runtime of Game of Thrones or Downton Abbey, then perhaps such things might be interesting to pursue. But, given the very limited runtime of 3 hours, it seems like unnecessary baggage and padding in something too short to afford the luxury of such padding.

Supraman

6,825 posts

219 months

Tuesday 19th November
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What I can’t work out is why the scriptwriters thought it would be a good idea to change whole chunks of the story and add subplots/flash forwards and other irrelevant faff.

They could have run this very closely to the original story, which would have made this most accurate/definitive screen version yet. If they had done this you could bet that it would have had a life in the DVD/BluRay, streaming market for years to come. As the Jeff Wayne Musical Version has for the last 40 years.

Instead, people aren’t even sticking with this drivel for episode 2 and 3. It will largely be forgotten about in a months time. What commercial sense was there for going off on a tangent and killing any potential follow on revenue by deviating so far from the original story.

james-witton

1,226 posts

55 months

Tuesday 19th November
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I think that there is still time for the BBC to shoehorn in some more LBGTQ or BAME characters into an Edwardian, white, heterosexual society? I would be disappointed if they didn’t. I’m guessing the ship will not be called Thunderchild but The Thunberg.

But more seriously what was that about the Heath Robinson like teas-made? Will it turn out to be the saviour of mankind? Maybe instead of micro-organisms those naughty Martians are felled by a sub-standard brew. Obviously sub-standard as a result of the poor suppressed workers under an unjust imperialistic regime. Somebody needs to apologise.

RemyMartin81D

5,183 posts

153 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Supraman said:
What I can’t work out is why the scriptwriters thought it would be a good idea to change whole chunks of the story and add subplots/flash forwards and other irrelevant faff.

They could have run this very closely to the original story, which would have made this most accurate/definitive screen version yet. If they had done this you could bet that it would have had a life in the DVD/BluRay, streaming market for years to come. As the Jeff Wayne Musical Version has for the last 40 years.

Instead, people aren’t even sticking with this drivel for episode 2 and 3. It will largely be forgotten about in a months time. What commercial sense was there for going off on a tangent and killing any potential follow on revenue by deviating so far from the original story.
BecauseBBC. Its a shame but its done now, I've accepted that its a steaming turd of an adaptation. I hoped the crazy number of bad reviews on IMDB was not a fair reflection but it is.

Its Just Adz

9,451 posts

157 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Was really looking forward to this, but reading the reviews I don't think I'll bother.

Crossflow Kid

11,265 posts

139 months

Tuesday 19th November
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El stovey said:


IMDb reviews pretty much reflecting this thread. hehe
laugh

Halmyre

7,613 posts

87 months

Tuesday 19th November
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Is it because WotW is in the public domain that screenwriters think they can fk about with it at will?

warch

1,825 posts

102 months

Wednesday 20th November
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There weren't quite as many songs or musical numbers as I remember either. Jeff Wayne will be spinning in his grave spin

Zirconia

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33,388 posts

232 months

Wednesday 20th November
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warch said:
There weren't quite as many songs or musical numbers as I remember either. Jeff Wayne will be spinning in his grave spin
He was looking quite well last December in Cardiff conducting his show.

croyde

15,915 posts

178 months

Wednesday 20th November
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Zirconia said:
warch said:
There weren't quite as many songs or musical numbers as I remember either. Jeff Wayne will be spinning in his grave spin
He was looking quite well last December in Cardiff conducting his show.
hehe

droopsnoot

7,148 posts

190 months

Wednesday 20th November
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james-witton said:
But more seriously what was that about the Heath Robinson like teas-made? Will it turn out to be the saviour of mankind? Maybe instead of micro-organisms those naughty Martians are felled by a sub-standard brew. Obviously sub-standard as a result of the poor suppressed workers under an unjust imperialistic regime. Somebody needs to apologise.
They'll fall victim to the problem with all teasmade-like products - the milk's been out in a warm bedroom all night.

I'm quite enjoying it, but then I (a) haven't read the book, and (b) am easily entertained, usually, though I've noticed (and been irritated by) a lot of the stuff people have commented on, such as the pointless digging and the polystyrene wooden beams. But I have to keep reminding myself it's not a TV adaptation of the Jeff Wayne record, which is the only other version I've experienced in full. Oh, and some parts of the Tom Cruise film, but that always starts at a time where I'm going to the pub halfway through and it never seems worth recording the rest.

Fundoreen

1,006 posts

31 months

Wednesday 20th November
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George could have just pretended to break up with here and gone back to the big mansion and his wife.
Pankhurst telescope lady could have been his bit on the side and this way his brother is happy as in these conservative god fearing uptight times that sort of thing is fine.
I guess we will never know due to the events that are unfolding.

Halb

50,192 posts

131 months

Wednesday 20th November
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droopsnoot said:
They'll fall victim to the problem with all teasmade-like products - the milk's been out in a warm bedroom all night.
possibly some sort of small cow is need? to live in the teasmaid?

james-witton

1,226 posts

55 months

Wednesday 20th November
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Halb said:
droopsnoot said:
They'll fall victim to the problem with all teasmade-like products - the milk's been out in a warm bedroom all night.
possibly some sort of small cow is need? to live in the teasmaid?
Nicola Sturgeon?

Halb

50,192 posts

131 months

Wednesday 20th November
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james-witton said:
Halb said:
droopsnoot said:
They'll fall victim to the problem with all teasmade-like products - the milk's been out in a warm bedroom all night.
possibly some sort of small cow is need? to live in the teasmaid?
Nicola Sturgeon?
Ooo, mean. How about a rat instead. Rats milk?

peterperkins

2,293 posts

190 months

Friday 22nd November
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What a steaming turd of a program.

Give me the 1950's film or the book anyday.