1917 (WWI movie)
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phazed said:
Take it for what it is, entertainment.
It doesn't need to be 100% accurate. Why pull it apart dissecting scenes and props.
IT'S A FILM!
ffs.
Yeah, but what it needed was a good airborne assault like in Apocalypse Now, with helicopters and everything.It doesn't need to be 100% accurate. Why pull it apart dissecting scenes and props.
IT'S A FILM!
ffs.
And why wasn’t he fighting the Japs? Would’ve still been entertaining.
And perhaps they could’ve thrown in a wizard or two and made it more like Harry Potter.
And...and....he could’ve escaped at the end in three Minis, a red one, a white one and a blue one and they could all hide in a converted coach.
And why were there no spaceships? They always add a bit of pazazz.
It’s just entertainment after all.
Crossflow Kid said:
phazed said:
Take it for what it is, entertainment.
It doesn't need to be 100% accurate. Why pull it apart dissecting scenes and props.
IT'S A FILM!
ffs.
Yeah, but what it needed was a good airborne assault like in Apocalypse Now, with helicopters and everything.It doesn't need to be 100% accurate. Why pull it apart dissecting scenes and props.
IT'S A FILM!
ffs.
And why wasn’t he fighting the Japs? Would’ve still been entertaining.
And perhaps they could’ve thrown in a wizard or two and made it more like Harry Potter.
And...and....he could’ve escaped at the end in three Minis, a red one, a white one and a blue one and they could all hide in a converted coach.
And why were there no spaceships? They always add a bit of pazazz.
It’s just entertainment after all.
After all the hype and good reviews I've seen of this, I've just come back from a 14:10 viewing of it and if I'm honest, very underwhelmed. Was just a bit dull to be honest, I get the underlying message is "war is bad, senseless loss of life" etc, but I felt like I could have left halfway through and not missed anything. Everything was well done in terms of portraying the trenches and the uniforms and all that, however the plot holes such as the randomly appearing out of nowhere convoy by the farm and waterfall didn't help it at all.
I've just seen it, and think it's a remarkable film, definitely worth rewatching. I think it managed to be beautiful and horrific at the same time, the scene where he chokes the German soldier in the burned out building with them both in silhouette whilst the other drunk german is lit up by the fire was brilliant.
The film is packed full of individual stunning set pieces, yet works as a whole and keeps the tension throughout. Possibly the best war film since saving Private Ryan, a definite 10/10 for me.
The film is packed full of individual stunning set pieces, yet works as a whole and keeps the tension throughout. Possibly the best war film since saving Private Ryan, a definite 10/10 for me.
75Black said:
After all the hype and good reviews I've seen of this, I've just come back from a 14:10 viewing of it and if I'm honest, very underwhelmed. Was just a bit dull to be honest, I get the underlying message is "war is bad, senseless loss of life" etc, but I felt like I could have left halfway through and not missed anything. Everything was well done in terms of portraying the trenches and the uniforms and all that, however the plot holes such as the randomly appearing out of nowhere convoy by the farm and waterfall didn't help it at all.
This was something that bugged me. A shot of a map at the beginning showing how point B related to Point A would have helped.They climbed out of a trench into “no-man’s land” following a compass bearing, and yet point B, was another allied fortified trench command that the Germans had, somehow, Leapfrogged to lie beyond that with said random motorised troops between as well as a bunch of drunken sharpshooters defending a destroyed canal lock. Yet when washed downstream, he comes up exactly at Point B - what are the chances of that? The troops at Point B seemed to understand where the Hindenburg line was already
I imagined that the sort of route his grandfather would have taken would have been passed down-the-line, but behind the fortified trenches.
I thought that War Horse portrayed the futility of WW1 far better.
1917: Cracking movie - and if you have ever watched "The Rope" - well - you will know what I mean.
But - as someone pointed out earlier... if there knew where the Devonshires were... and where they were going.... why not just fly someone over and drop a few canisters.
Given the length of each shot... the actors must have rehearsed their lines for months.
Even the sets - how long must it have taken to dig out those trenches. And have cast move around.
Very very impressive.
But - as someone pointed out earlier... if there knew where the Devonshires were... and where they were going.... why not just fly someone over and drop a few canisters.
Given the length of each shot... the actors must have rehearsed their lines for months.
Even the sets - how long must it have taken to dig out those trenches. And have cast move around.
Very very impressive.
Fundoreen said:
While getting some throthing at the mouth for its inclusion the lone empire troop shown is really another cop out.
They could have shown a whole troop of Sikh soldiers but they didn't want to do that did they.
Just a question of getting 20-30 extras for a day so no strain on the budget is it?
So the typical get out is to show just one person.
All the pseudo liberal types think phew got through another day with my bull$hit lol.
A really good film I would recommend is days of glory. Went down like a lead ballon and events since have made it easier to dismiss.
There actually are more Sikh soldiers in the truck. You only see that when they get out to push it. In the long shot you will notice a few Sikh soldiers.They could have shown a whole troop of Sikh soldiers but they didn't want to do that did they.
Just a question of getting 20-30 extras for a day so no strain on the budget is it?
So the typical get out is to show just one person.
All the pseudo liberal types think phew got through another day with my bull$hit lol.
A really good film I would recommend is days of glory. Went down like a lead ballon and events since have made it easier to dismiss.
It's very easy to miss though. So it seems like they are a Sikh unit of some sort that for some reason have got attached to other British army units. I think someone else said the officer in charge makes some comment about picking up troops from a few different places for whatever his mission is.
Penelope Stopit said:
Watched Dunkirk last night and found it terrible, should have turned it off
Not interested in amazing filming and scenery etc, a film needs to have depth and continuity and obviously war movies should not be showing nice and clean troops
Should I watch this film or is it not for me?
I've got Dunkirk cued up on Netflix. I'm thinking of binning it off now, and searching for the 1958 version with John Mills and Richard Attenborough. Not interested in amazing filming and scenery etc, a film needs to have depth and continuity and obviously war movies should not be showing nice and clean troops
Should I watch this film or is it not for me?
yellowjack said:
Penelope Stopit said:
Watched Dunkirk last night and found it terrible, should have turned it off
Not interested in amazing filming and scenery etc, a film needs to have depth and continuity and obviously war movies should not be showing nice and clean troops
Should I watch this film or is it not for me?
I've got Dunkirk cued up on Netflix. I'm thinking of binning it off now, and searching for the 1958 version with John Mills and Richard Attenborough. Not interested in amazing filming and scenery etc, a film needs to have depth and continuity and obviously war movies should not be showing nice and clean troops
Should I watch this film or is it not for me?
Go in with an open mind, turn the volume up sit back and enjoy. I am one for taking the film as a whole and not nitpicking inaccuracies. Actually enjoyed Dunkirk more than 1917. Although to be fair to 1917 that was a good film as well.
75Black said:
After all the hype and good reviews I've seen of this, I've just come back from a 14:10 viewing of it and if I'm honest, very underwhelmed. Was just a bit dull to be honest, I get the underlying message is "war is bad, senseless loss of life" etc, but I felt like I could have left halfway through and not missed anything. Everything was well done in terms of portraying the trenches and the uniforms and all that
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