Fallout : TV show

[motorizer]

Beati Dogu said:

Visually, Fallout looks impressive, although having a female lead these days doesn’t give me much confidence. Hopefully she’s not just another unlikable, invincible, Mary Sue girl boss, who is good at everything because vagina. One of the writers co-wrote Captain Marvel, so that’s not a good portent.

It's based on a RPG..she needs to start as a weedy level one and end up super powerful by the end.

And to be honest it's based on a RPG series where women do just as much action stuff as men and fight in the military etc..., having only men be good at fighting wouldn't fit in with the series lore.

Edited by motorizer on Sunday 3rd December 16:11

[JagLover]

motorizer said:

Beati Dogu said:

Visually, Fallout looks impressive, although having a female lead these days doesn’t give me much confidence. Hopefully she’s not just another unlikable, invincible, Mary Sue girl boss, who is good at everything because vagina. One of the writers co-wrote Captain Marvel, so that’s not a good portent.

It's based on a RPG..she needs to start as a weedy level one and end up super powerful by the end.

No problem with a female lead but the right sort of one with learning and growth, vulnerability and human emotions. So your post may be in jest but is closer to what makes a satisfying story.

People have mentioned Westworld and that worked in season 1 with its female characters and then just went to cr*p.

[motorizer]

It wasn't really in jest, it would be better if she starts out weak and gets better....

[glazbagun]

motorizer said:

Beati Dogu said:

Visually, Fallout looks impressive, although having a female lead these days doesn’t give me much confidence. Hopefully she’s not just another unlikable, invincible, Mary Sue girl boss, who is good at everything because vagina. One of the writers co-wrote Captain Marvel, so that’s not a good portent.

It's based on a RPG..she needs to start as a weedy level one and end up super powerful by the end.

And to be honest it's based on a RPG series where women do just as much action stuff as men and fight in the military etc..., having only men be good at fighting wouldn't fit in with the series lore.

From the first game in the 90's you could be a woman. I think the harder thing will be deciding what kind of character she is in the beginning. On most playthrough's I'd got for an all-guns guy before returning to do a character/lockpicking/thief type of game. You can't really do that in a show with a main protagonist.

I think pacing might be difficult. RPGs let you just level up and become better at lockpicking/fighting instantly. That won't wash in TV (unless they Scott Pilgrim it) and showing months of character growth isn't really possible when every episode needs to be interesting.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

motorizer said:

It wasn't really in jest, it would be better if she starts out weak and gets better....

In (at least) one of the articles it describes her as being naive and idealistic, having drunk all the VaultTec Kool-Aid available, so it's hardly likely that she is going to emerge from the Vault as a superhero. That's never been the narrative of the Fallout games because it is an RPG and you always start out so weak that even a Radroach presents a combat challenge.

[glazbagun]

Man, I want to break out the OG games now. Do they still run on modern PC's? I never completed Fallout 2, always got stuck inside the oil rig. Or Fallout 1 where you'd get blocked in a room by one of your teammates standing in the doorway and you'd have to kill them to get out.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

glazbagun said:

Man, I want to break out the OG games now. Do they still run on modern PC's? I never completed Fallout 2, always got stuck inside the oil rig. Or Fallout 1 where you'd get blocked in a room by one of your teammates standing in the doorway and you'd have to kill them to get out.

Yes. They all run under modern Windows. They are often in sales. I bought them for pennies once then got them again for free in an offer.

If it is possible to transfer ownership of one of those to you then I am happy to do so.

[glazbagun]

I actually burned the images of my old installers to an old HD years ago (back when a CD seemed like a lot of storage!) I'll see if it still works next weekend.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

glazbagun said:

I actually burned the images of my old installers to an old HD years ago (back when a CD seemed like a lot of storage!) I'll see if it still works next weekend.

You may fall afoul of DRM. If they rely on Windows Live then Microsoft turned off those servers years ago. I ended up buying Crisis again (albeit for only a few quid) in order to play it again despite owning an expensive steelbook version bought new.

Top tip: always re-buy from gog.com if possible when in this situation as they are DRM-free

Also, when games that you already own come up as an Epic Games freebie, grab them anyway. This doubles your chance of being able to revisit the game 10 years down the line.

[motorizer]

I think 1 & 2 predate windows live....

[Clockwork Cupcake]

motorizer said:

I think 1 & 2 predate windows live....

Fair enough. Good to know.

(My point still stands in general terms and certainty does for Crysis, which I used as an example )

Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Sunday 3rd December 19:16

[Narcisus]

Can’t wait for this ! Just started New Vegas and 4 on Steam Deck hope the 4 next gen patch is released soon

[Clockwork Cupcake]

I just checked and I appear to have a DVD "white label" edition from GSP consisting of Fallout, Fallout 2, and Fallout:Tactics whose system specs are "WinXP or Vista". I don't see any mention of Windows Live on it.

I also appear to own it on Epic, which would have been a freebie.

I'm happy to send you the DVD if you want/need it, glazbagun

[FourWheelDrift]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

glazbagun said:

I actually burned the images of my old installers to an old HD years ago (back when a CD seemed like a lot of storage!) I'll see if it still works next weekend.

You may fall afoul of DRM. If they rely on Windows Live then Microsoft turned off those servers years ago. I ended up buying Crisis again (albeit for only a few quid) in order to play it again despite owning an expensive steelbook version bought new.

Top tip: always re-buy from gog.com if possible when in this situation as they are DRM-free

Also, when games that you already own come up as an Epic Games freebie, grab them anyway. This doubles your chance of being able to revisit the game 10 years down the line.

If it doesn't work, Steam keys (trusted site, I use them a lot) for a little as 40p.

https://www.kinguin.net/listing?active=1&hideU...

Old Fallout games have no DRM.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

FourWheelDrift said:

If it doesn't work, Steam keys (trusted site, I use them a lot) for a little as 40p.

https://www.kinguin.net/listing?active=1&hideU...

Worth knowing.

[C5_Steve]

Watched the trailer and further to my last comment, this does indeed look excellent. They seem to have captured the aesthetic of the games perfectly (again from an outsider's perspective having not played them). Very much looking forward to this now.

[Otispunkmeyer]

After the trailer I am quietly looking forward to this. They really seem to have paid attention to the world building and aesthetic of the games, which is great. However, I am wary of that as well. I am not one of these people who will only be happy with word-for-word transcription to screen. That seldom works and things do need tweaking and do need some interpretation to get them to work in a different medium. So yeah I just hope they're not sticking rigidly to the games at the expense of actually doing a good story.

From what I gather, it looks like there will be 3 story lines to follow: Vault Dweller, A ghoul bounty hunter and a Brotherhood of Steel soldier. I think that will keep things interesting hopefully.

I love Fallout. I think in the New Year I am going to buy a Steam Deck so I can play them all again.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

Otispunkmeyer said:

After the trailer I am quietly looking forward to this. They really seem to have paid attention to the world building and aesthetic of the games, which is great. However, I am wary of that as well. I am not one of these people who will only be happy with word-for-word transcription to screen. That seldom works and things do need tweaking and do need some interpretation to get them to work in a different medium. So yeah I just hope they're not sticking rigidly to the games at the expense of actually doing a good story.

From what I gather, it looks like there will be 3 story lines to follow: Vault Dweller, A ghoul bounty hunter and a Brotherhood of Steel soldier. I think that will keep things interesting hopefully.

I love Fallout. I think in the New Year I am going to buy a Steam Deck so I can play them all again.

My understanding is that it's set in the universe of the games but even later in time than any of them, and therefore unlikely to be a simple remake of any one game plotwise.

I just hope they dispense with the idea that nobody will have cleared away 200 year-old skeletons and detritus, because that always annoyed me. Humans aren't like that .

Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Monday 4th December 14:19

[Nexus Icon]

Beati Dogu said:

Not necessarily. Westworld started great, but turned into a dumpster fire and got cancelled early. I’ve only watched season one of the Boys and that was decent. Apparently season 2 got a bit woke though.

Visually, Fallout looks impressive, although having a female lead these days doesn’t give me much confidence. Hopefully she’s not just another unlikable, invincible, Mary Sue girl boss, who is good at everything because vagina. One of the writers co-wrote Captain Marvel, so that’s not a good portent.

Hahaha

Good one.

[FourWheelDrift]

Premiering on Amazon Prime Thursday 11th April.

https://screenrant.com/fallout-show-premiere-date-...

New trailer.