Films I watched this week (NO SPOILERS) (Vol 3)
Discussion
Nemophilist said:
It is rather nuanced, easy to miss I guess. Especially having to read the subtitles whilst taking everything in from the scene, the background music and noise and the facial expressions at the same time.
Its clearly a dark subject matter, no doubting some of the darkest.
Hedwig's part showing how she could ignore the juxtaposition between her life and over the wall for all of the riches it gave her was the main theme of Glazer's portrayal.
Ah, ok, I see what you mean.Its clearly a dark subject matter, no doubting some of the darkest.
Hedwig's part showing how she could ignore the juxtaposition between her life and over the wall for all of the riches it gave her was the main theme of Glazer's portrayal.
Edited by Nemophilist on Monday 22 April 12:58
Antony Moxey said:
Crook said:
I think I may come across as a bit of a ninny on this: I saw it a couple of weeks ago and it's a decent, well paced film, BO is excellent and underplays it really well, the fight scenes are well choreographed and etc. but WTF is it with Hollywood / The US being so fixated on retaliation and revenge and all their "justifiable" slaughter of people?
I'm no Mary Whitehouse but I can't imagine why the American psyche is a bit trigger happy when it comes to escalating confrontations.
As a mildly interesting aside to the above, I'm struggling to think of many films where our hero sets out for revenge and the bad guy wins, and wins properly (no, The Empire Strikes Back doesn't count because it's not a standalone film, it's part of a series, and that's for yet another altogether different discussion yet again). I guess you could say Silence of the Lambs, but it's not really a revenge thriller type film.I'm no Mary Whitehouse but I can't imagine why the American psyche is a bit trigger happy when it comes to escalating confrontations.
Crook said:
Antony Moxey said:
Crook said:
I think I may come across as a bit of a ninny on this: I saw it a couple of weeks ago and it's a decent, well paced film, BO is excellent and underplays it really well, the fight scenes are well choreographed and etc. but WTF is it with Hollywood / The US being so fixated on retaliation and revenge and all their "justifiable" slaughter of people?
I'm no Mary Whitehouse but I can't imagine why the American psyche is a bit trigger happy when it comes to escalating confrontations.
As a mildly interesting aside to the above, I'm struggling to think of many films where our hero sets out for revenge and the bad guy wins, and wins properly (no, The Empire Strikes Back doesn't count because it's not a standalone film, it's part of a series, and that's for yet another altogether different discussion yet again). I guess you could say Silence of the Lambs, but it's not really a revenge thriller type film.I'm no Mary Whitehouse but I can't imagine why the American psyche is a bit trigger happy when it comes to escalating confrontations.
272BHP said:
Revenge has been a popular theme in literature and general story telling since forever.
Count of Monte Cristo, Moby Dick and Hamlet are just a few that spring to mind on the literary side.
Absolutely and it is a huge part of the human nature however the US cinema uses it to justify unimaginably stylised, music enhanced gleeful mass murder. Count of Monte Cristo, Moby Dick and Hamlet are just a few that spring to mind on the literary side.
I just think sometimes it's a bit much that's all.
Crook said:
Absolutely and it is a huge part of the human nature however the US cinema uses it to justify unimaginably stylised, music enhanced gleeful mass murder.
I just think sometimes it's a bit much that's all.
I don't think US cinema is even the biggest culprit. Practically every eastern Kung Fu flick for instance is based upon stylised violent revenge. Indian and Korean cinema draw quite readily from the well too.I just think sometimes it's a bit much that's all.
Everyones at it
If somebody broke into your house, killed your dog and stole your car*, then you would want to end them in very violent ways. That is completely fair reaction to those things happening 
. In the movies, you can watch people go ahead and do those things, it's made up, it's over the top, it's entertainment based on something people can relate to.
. In the movies, you can watch people go ahead and do those things, it's made up, it's over the top, it's entertainment based on something people can relate to.- Other reasons are available if your name isn't John Wick
Crook said:
I just find it a bit odd / sad that revenge is such a driver at the box office and a mainstay of almost every shootem-up / beatem-up film.
Many of my dreams are based on me getting revenge on those that have wronged me Fortunately I choose to do it the legal way by just making sure I am happier and treat others well,
but these style of films get a lot of support from me who can’t do the violence thing
6 Underground, Netflix. I found it hugely enjoyable. I'm a huge Ryan Reynolds fan, and whilst this isn't his go to kind of film, he was still fantastic in it. It's one (lengthy) car chase wiped the floor with anything fast & furious managed. Action in spades, some great comedic moments. A tad leave your brain out, but great fun. 8/10
The First Omen
Love the first 3 especially the first 2, the original is a classic so was really looking forward to this especially after the positive reviews on here and IMDb.
It should have been another Rogue One but after seeing it, sadly it wasn't.
Great acting and some nice cinematography, it captured the 70's feel as well.
However they have s
tted on the original for me with the changes.
Everyone who has seen the originals know that Damien was birthed by a jackal as mentioned many times, you can't change this plot point to the jackal being the father. We know it was buried in the old cemetery yet it's burned alive in the church here. Father Brennan never witnesses this birth either now.
The twist was so easy to see, obviously the girl is too young to give birth so it's going to be the leading lady.
The supernatural element of the comet and the whole prophecy of Damien is now out of the window since he's a science project.
Instead of evil cultists, it's the Church that have brought the Anti-Christ about and that renders the poem of him from the bible obsolete and the reason for doing it is even more ridiculous.
The mother gives birth to twins and she and the girl survive, what for and what's the girl supposed to become?
Wtf was the candle shot that looked like a scary face, I actually lol'd at it.
The deaths are just remixes from the originals, you don't even get the feeling that the devil is causing these like in the original to protect his seed.
It's not even scary apart from some gory shots.
Due to most of the above the original film can't continue from these changes.
Seeing as I only saw Immaculate a few days ago which is very similar to this, I actually enjoyed that more than this.
If it was a brand new film then it may have gotten a higher mark but for the reasons above, it loses a couple from me being a prequel.
5/10
Love the first 3 especially the first 2, the original is a classic so was really looking forward to this especially after the positive reviews on here and IMDb.
It should have been another Rogue One but after seeing it, sadly it wasn't.
Great acting and some nice cinematography, it captured the 70's feel as well.
However they have s
tted on the original for me with the changes.Everyone who has seen the originals know that Damien was birthed by a jackal as mentioned many times, you can't change this plot point to the jackal being the father. We know it was buried in the old cemetery yet it's burned alive in the church here. Father Brennan never witnesses this birth either now.
The twist was so easy to see, obviously the girl is too young to give birth so it's going to be the leading lady.
The supernatural element of the comet and the whole prophecy of Damien is now out of the window since he's a science project.
Instead of evil cultists, it's the Church that have brought the Anti-Christ about and that renders the poem of him from the bible obsolete and the reason for doing it is even more ridiculous.
The mother gives birth to twins and she and the girl survive, what for and what's the girl supposed to become?
Wtf was the candle shot that looked like a scary face, I actually lol'd at it.
The deaths are just remixes from the originals, you don't even get the feeling that the devil is causing these like in the original to protect his seed.
It's not even scary apart from some gory shots.
Due to most of the above the original film can't continue from these changes.
Seeing as I only saw Immaculate a few days ago which is very similar to this, I actually enjoyed that more than this.
If it was a brand new film then it may have gotten a higher mark but for the reasons above, it loses a couple from me being a prequel.
5/10
Dirty Granpa - how does this not get a higher rating on imdb?
Plucked clean out the air as i’m away from my wife at the mo and it had my laughing start to finish, DeNiro is brilliant, girls just lovely, an old story line but a goody and delivered with material ive not heard or seen before, even Zac was better than his recent crap as wrestler.
Probably best for the dirty granpas in here (which are many) and not so much a couple watch
Loved it, shame on imdb.
Plucked clean out the air as i’m away from my wife at the mo and it had my laughing start to finish, DeNiro is brilliant, girls just lovely, an old story line but a goody and delivered with material ive not heard or seen before, even Zac was better than his recent crap as wrestler.
Probably best for the dirty granpas in here (which are many) and not so much a couple watch
Loved it, shame on imdb.
Fermit said:
6 Underground, Netflix. I found it hugely enjoyable. I'm a huge Ryan Reynolds fan, and whilst this isn't his go to kind of film, he was still fantastic in it. It's one (lengthy) car chase wiped the floor with anything fast & furious managed. Action in spades, some great comedic moments. A tad leave your brain out, but great fun. 8/10
I also really enjoyed it when it was released, the only thing that annoyed me was during the chase with the green Alfa the drivers hat kept appearing and disappearing from one shot to the next which really irritated me. Just one of those editing things that someone should have picked up when shooting but I get it's not an arthouse flick and nit picking it isn't really the point 
Agree with you on it being far better than a lot of the recent F&F films, it's a very solid action film.
Kerniki said:
Dirty Granpa - how does this not get a higher rating on imdb?
Plucked clean out the air as i’m away from my wife at the mo and it had my laughing start to finish, DeNiro is brilliant, girls just lovely, an old story line but a goody and delivered with material ive not heard or seen before, even Zac was better than his recent crap as wrestler.
Probably best for the dirty granpas in here (which are many) and not so much a couple watch
Loved it, shame on imdb.
Aubrey Plaza is hilarious in this and it's the funniest I've seen DeNiro in anything. Brilliant film. Plucked clean out the air as i’m away from my wife at the mo and it had my laughing start to finish, DeNiro is brilliant, girls just lovely, an old story line but a goody and delivered with material ive not heard or seen before, even Zac was better than his recent crap as wrestler.
Probably best for the dirty granpas in here (which are many) and not so much a couple watch
Loved it, shame on imdb.
C5_Steve said:
Kerniki said:
Dirty Granpa - how does this not get a higher rating on imdb?
Plucked clean out the air as i’m away from my wife at the mo and it had my laughing start to finish, DeNiro is brilliant, girls just lovely, an old story line but a goody and delivered with material ive not heard or seen before, even Zac was better than his recent crap as wrestler.
Probably best for the dirty granpas in here (which are many) and not so much a couple watch
Loved it, shame on imdb.
Aubrey Plaza is hilarious in this and it's the funniest I've seen DeNiro in anything. Brilliant film. Plucked clean out the air as i’m away from my wife at the mo and it had my laughing start to finish, DeNiro is brilliant, girls just lovely, an old story line but a goody and delivered with material ive not heard or seen before, even Zac was better than his recent crap as wrestler.
Probably best for the dirty granpas in here (which are many) and not so much a couple watch
Loved it, shame on imdb.
Shin Godzilla
After seeing Minus One I saw quite a few people who had this film up there in the same conversation about their favourite Godzilla film so I decided to give it a go.
When I tell you I laughed out loud the first time we see "Godzilla" (not in his final form tbf), I honestly was in pieces and considered turning the movie off. There was this slug like thing with googly eyes belly-flopping down a Japanese highway. What had I let myself in for
Minus One this is not. This is a political satire having a dig at the Japanese government and it's responses to disasters that happens to feature Godzilla. The Blu Ray came with both the English and Japanese versions, I always prefer watching films in their original form so watched the Japanese version. One thing that was immediately an issue was the subtitles. At the beginning of the film, your being introduced to loads of government ministers and departments and other important people literally one after the other in quick 30 second intervals. The problem is, their name and department comes up at the top of the screen at the same time as the dialogue at the bottom, it's impossible to read everything After a while it calms down but every time someone new is introduced it gives you their name, position and department at the top whilst they speak. At some points it also comes up with the meeting room their in as well so you have this wall of text all over the screen. There are also occasions where certain characters speak English so the subs switch to Japanese, only their English is quite poor so you have to really switch to listening hard.
There's a purpose for this though as the whole point is to show you how complicated they make the decision-making process for how to deal with Godzilla. It's like a non-comedy version of The Thick of It. Which does work because after a while you're totally lost as to who is deciding what and if anything is actually going to get done.
Back to the main guy, he has a couple of "versions" and the final one is more what we're used to, they do capture the destruction and human impact well enough I feel but it does feel very budget compared to Minus One, let along anything from Hollywood. You really do have to love the Toho Godzilla stuff to appreciate it.
Overall, it was an interesting watch and I'm glad I gave it a spin but it made me appreciate how good Minus One was even more.
6/10
After seeing Minus One I saw quite a few people who had this film up there in the same conversation about their favourite Godzilla film so I decided to give it a go.
When I tell you I laughed out loud the first time we see "Godzilla" (not in his final form tbf), I honestly was in pieces and considered turning the movie off. There was this slug like thing with googly eyes belly-flopping down a Japanese highway. What had I let myself in for
Minus One this is not. This is a political satire having a dig at the Japanese government and it's responses to disasters that happens to feature Godzilla. The Blu Ray came with both the English and Japanese versions, I always prefer watching films in their original form so watched the Japanese version. One thing that was immediately an issue was the subtitles. At the beginning of the film, your being introduced to loads of government ministers and departments and other important people literally one after the other in quick 30 second intervals. The problem is, their name and department comes up at the top of the screen at the same time as the dialogue at the bottom, it's impossible to read everything
After a while it calms down but every time someone new is introduced it gives you their name, position and department at the top whilst they speak. At some points it also comes up with the meeting room their in as well so you have this wall of text all over the screen. There are also occasions where certain characters speak English so the subs switch to Japanese, only their English is quite poor so you have to really switch to listening hard. There's a purpose for this though as the whole point is to show you how complicated they make the decision-making process for how to deal with Godzilla. It's like a non-comedy version of The Thick of It. Which does work because after a while you're totally lost as to who is deciding what and if anything is actually going to get done.
Back to the main guy, he has a couple of "versions" and the final one is more what we're used to, they do capture the destruction and human impact well enough I feel but it does feel very budget compared to Minus One, let along anything from Hollywood. You really do have to love the Toho Godzilla stuff to appreciate it.
Overall, it was an interesting watch and I'm glad I gave it a spin but it made me appreciate how good Minus One was even more.
6/10
C5_Steve said:
Shin Godzilla
After seeing Minus One I saw quite a few people who had this film up there in the same conversation about their favourite Godzilla film so I decided to give it a go.
When I tell you I laughed out loud the first time we see "Godzilla" (not in his final form tbf), I honestly was in pieces and considered turning the movie off. There was this slug like thing with googly eyes belly-flopping down a Japanese highway. What had I let myself in for
Minus One this is not. This is a political satire having a dig at the Japanese government and it's responses to disasters that happens to feature Godzilla. The Blu Ray came with both the English and Japanese versions, I always prefer watching films in their original form so watched the Japanese version. One thing that was immediately an issue was the subtitles. At the beginning of the film, your being introduced to loads of government ministers and departments and other important people literally one after the other in quick 30 second intervals. The problem is, their name and department comes up at the top of the screen at the same time as the dialogue at the bottom, it's impossible to read everything After a while it calms down but every time someone new is introduced it gives you their name, position and department at the top whilst they speak. At some points it also comes up with the meeting room their in as well so you have this wall of text all over the screen. There are also occasions where certain characters speak English so the subs switch to Japanese, only their English is quite poor so you have to really switch to listening hard.
There's a purpose for this though as the whole point is to show you how complicated they make the decision-making process for how to deal with Godzilla. It's like a non-comedy version of The Thick of It. Which does work because after a while you're totally lost as to who is deciding what and if anything is actually going to get done.
Back to the main guy, he has a couple of "versions" and the final one is more what we're used to, they do capture the destruction and human impact well enough I feel but it does feel very budget compared to Minus One, let along anything from Hollywood. You really do have to love the Toho Godzilla stuff to appreciate it.
Overall, it was an interesting watch and I'm glad I gave it a spin but it made me appreciate how good Minus One was even more.
6/10
I don't disagree with you on most of that but the political angle/ absurdity was why I think I really liked it. And yes, the initial form is hilarious but again, that's kind of the point to me. I also agree that minus one is better but Shin is something special, especially because its really not what you were expecting.After seeing Minus One I saw quite a few people who had this film up there in the same conversation about their favourite Godzilla film so I decided to give it a go.
When I tell you I laughed out loud the first time we see "Godzilla" (not in his final form tbf), I honestly was in pieces and considered turning the movie off. There was this slug like thing with googly eyes belly-flopping down a Japanese highway. What had I let myself in for
Minus One this is not. This is a political satire having a dig at the Japanese government and it's responses to disasters that happens to feature Godzilla. The Blu Ray came with both the English and Japanese versions, I always prefer watching films in their original form so watched the Japanese version. One thing that was immediately an issue was the subtitles. At the beginning of the film, your being introduced to loads of government ministers and departments and other important people literally one after the other in quick 30 second intervals. The problem is, their name and department comes up at the top of the screen at the same time as the dialogue at the bottom, it's impossible to read everything
After a while it calms down but every time someone new is introduced it gives you their name, position and department at the top whilst they speak. At some points it also comes up with the meeting room their in as well so you have this wall of text all over the screen. There are also occasions where certain characters speak English so the subs switch to Japanese, only their English is quite poor so you have to really switch to listening hard. There's a purpose for this though as the whole point is to show you how complicated they make the decision-making process for how to deal with Godzilla. It's like a non-comedy version of The Thick of It. Which does work because after a while you're totally lost as to who is deciding what and if anything is actually going to get done.
Back to the main guy, he has a couple of "versions" and the final one is more what we're used to, they do capture the destruction and human impact well enough I feel but it does feel very budget compared to Minus One, let along anything from Hollywood. You really do have to love the Toho Godzilla stuff to appreciate it.
Overall, it was an interesting watch and I'm glad I gave it a spin but it made me appreciate how good Minus One was even more.
6/10
Have you watched any of the new animated Godzilla films on Netflix (planet of monsters, planet eater, etc.). Again, really not what you'd expect at all. Godzilla really is a god; humanity has to adapt. Worth a watch, kids stuff it certainly is not.
fatbutt said:
I don't disagree with you on most of that but the political angle/ absurdity was why I think I really liked it. And yes, the initial form is hilarious but again, that's kind of the point to me. I also agree that minus one is better but Shin is something special, especially because its really not what you were expecting.
Have you watched any of the new animated Godzilla films on Netflix (planet of monsters, planet eater, etc.). Again, really not what you'd expect at all. Godzilla really is a god; humanity has to adapt. Worth a watch, kids stuff it certainly is not.
I went in blind so it really caught me off guard, I'll probably give the English version a go at some point. Have you watched any of the new animated Godzilla films on Netflix (planet of monsters, planet eater, etc.). Again, really not what you'd expect at all. Godzilla really is a god; humanity has to adapt. Worth a watch, kids stuff it certainly is not.
I have seen the Netflix stuff you mention and they were awesome; I'm sure I recommended them to someone on here at one point. I do enjoy pretty much everything Godzilla related tbh. It's certainly not a bad film, just one I think works best if you go in with a bit of background maybe. Or maybe seeing it so soon after Minus One spoiled it for me perhaps.
A lot of people prefer Shin over minus one, I can't see it myself if I'm honest but each to their own.
Any other recommendations?
Edited by C5_Steve on Tuesday 23 April 16:55
Three Musketeers part 1 - D'Artagnan 2023
Watched this the other night having missed it last year. A French film that could have been made in the sixties in terms of structure, plot, narrative etc. Really good fun, extremely watchable and Eva Green too - what's not to like.
Part 2, Milady (Green's character) is out now so I'm looking forward to seeing this too - I presume the films were made back to back.
Watched this the other night having missed it last year. A French film that could have been made in the sixties in terms of structure, plot, narrative etc. Really good fun, extremely watchable and Eva Green too - what's not to like.
Part 2, Milady (Green's character) is out now so I'm looking forward to seeing this too - I presume the films were made back to back.
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